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* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This line require {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first, OR a {{Ability check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This line require {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first, OR a {{Ability check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ||
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''In the [[Tadpoling Centre]]:'' | ''In the [[Tadpoling Centre]]:'' | ||
* Choose to purge the pods {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * Choose to purge the pods {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
'''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]'''<br> | |||
''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | |||
* If you haven't recruited her earlier, she'll be intent to go to Baldur's Gate with you. Answer that you two make a good team {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | |||
* When she says she will never tire of sitting on dead men's thrones, say it suits her {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Answer you'll never tire of killing previous occupants {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | |||
* When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]], mention the cult might need a new leadership afterwards {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} | |||
** Then tell her you are with her {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} ''(A {{Class|Rogue}} character will have an additional unique line)'' | |||
* OR Declare you will be the saviours of Baldur's Gate | |||
** Then agree that reshaping world would be glorious {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} | |||
* When Minthara enquires about one more thing to explain... | |||
* ... and asks why you slayed the tieflings in the [[Emerald Grove]]: | |||
** Say you did it to earn her trust {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | |||
** OR Say you did it to impress her {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} | |||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, tell her you weren't in control of yourself and pass a {{Ability check|Deception|14}} to assure her you are now, completely {{Approval|Minthara|+2}} | |||
*... and asks why you have come to Moonrise: | |||
** Answer you wanted to learn more about the tadpole {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | |||
** OR Say you wanted revenge on those who did all this to you {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | |||
* After Minthara gets up from the throne: | |||
** Ask whether she respected Ketheric. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** When discussing her joining the cult of the Absolute, tell her Ketheric gave you the welcome you felt you deserved. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Promise she will have her revenge on Orin. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | |||
* Say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* OR Refuse to recruit Jaheira {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Aylin]], if you let [[Balthazar]] take her from Shadowfell:'' | |||
* If [[Isobel]] survived, tell them you must apologize to Aylin {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If Isobel died, tell aasimar your betrayal was a strategic move {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* Tell her you're glad they are safe, and say they are better off without [[Zevlor]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say "Good riddance" (i.e. to Zevlor) {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Tell her the [[Nightsong]] is the real hero {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Say people get paid for doing jobs {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Rogue}} character has a unique line here)'' | |||
** When she answers that she has no money, say you were joking {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]], [[Umi]] and [[Mattis]]:'' | |||
* Tell any of them about [[Mol|Mol's]] eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then: | |||
** Assure Ide that Mol is somewhere safe {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell Ide that her friend is dead anyway {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell Mattis that death happens, and that's it {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Inform Umi that Mol is dead {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to others:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, talk to [[Alfira]] and decline her proposal to play together a show for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
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** Let her in exchange to see her thoughts as well. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}} | ** Let her in exchange to see her thoughts as well. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}} | ||
** Tell her you're flattered or that she is rather special, too {{Approval|Minthara|+3}} | ** Tell her you're flattered or that she is rather special, too {{Approval|Minthara|+3}} | ||
** If you imagine her as a | ** If you imagine her as a lover {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | ||
** OR If you imagine her as any of the others, '''except for monster''', you can follow up with '' 'I want you too.' '' {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | ** OR If you imagine her as any of the others, '''except for monster''', you can follow up with '' 'I want you too.' '' {{Approval|Minthara|+10}} | ||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, when you confess your yearn to kill: | * Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, when you confess your yearn to kill: | ||
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** Solve the second riddle {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}--> | ** Solve the second riddle {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}--> | ||
'''[[Lower City]]:''' | '''[[Lower City]]'''<br> | ||
''At the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]]:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Murphy|Fist Murphy]], ask why he is standing on one leg, and then: | |||
** Outrage at him for stealing from people he is supposed to protect {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Pretend to push him off his balance {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, say is he was truly sorry, he'd be willing to die for forgiveness {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, tell him you'd make you cut off his hand were you his master {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, tell him to prove Liara Portyr he is not a weakling {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Monk}}, praise him for a good discipline for a guard {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, talk to [[Thunder (Flaming Fist)|Gauntlet Thunder]] about proper punishment for two soldiers who screwed up, and say: | |||
* That you'd do exactly what she is doing {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Advise her to double their shifts and dock their pay {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Arensen|Fist 'Edge' Arensen]] at the gallows, ask him why don't he wait with threats until you commit a crime {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say a big guy like him makes an easy target {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Miller|Fist Miller]] after [[Florrick]] had been executed, say "Good riddance" {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say she didn't deserve to die {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say it's a cruel way of talking about her {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Thrastle Muria]], ask if everyone in her neighbourhood is as friendly as she is {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Liara Portyr]] and [[Lora Bergauz]]:'' | |||
* Tell Lora to calm down and let Liara alone {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Then call Liara a typical Fist who never listens {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Promise to help Lora find [[Vanra Bergauz|her daughter]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
** Propose to help Lora find [[Vanra Bergauz|her daughter]] for a certain price {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If you already know that Vanra died, tell this to Lora, then say you did your best {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say Vanra is dead, no matter Lora believes you or not {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''At [[The Blushing Mermaid]]:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Bosun Gannet]], when he instructs you about the tavern rules, ask what to do if you want to use the latrine {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Ask Gannet about Vanra, and then: | |||
** Say you didn't think a tough guy would be scared of a little knife {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Tell him you'd love to see him try to kick you out {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When Talking to the [[Auntie Ethel|hag]] masking as [[Quenora Grisly|Captain Grisly]], inquire her about Vanra, and then ask how do you know she's not lying {{Approval|Minthara|+2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}} or a {{Class|Fighter}}, ask whether a little knife caused such trouble {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When looking for a decision, suggest to pay Lora off {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you want to get to the bottom to the story of a missing child {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, say Lora acted out of fear and anger {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Oath of Vengeance|Vengeance Paladin}}, say the punishment is in order {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, mention that killing Lora sounds like the best way {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When the hag offers you money for killing Lora, agree to do it {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Refuse to do the dirty work for her {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Oath of Devotion|Devotion Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, agree to do it if she doubles the price {{Approval|Minthara|+2}} | |||
* Agree to kill Lora for disguised hag, but then return and tell the hag you've changed your mind and she should surrender Vanra {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* After [[Auntie Ethel]] reveals herself and confesses that she actually ate Vanra, call her a monster, and then: | |||
** Tell her to surrender the child immediately. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you'll leave now {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say "That’s so evil, even I’m impressed." {{Approval|Minthara|+2}} | |||
* If you have already killed Lora, tell Ethel to thank you {{Approval|Minthara|+2}} | |||
** OR Say you don't like being used {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When Ethel offers you to let her go in exchange of being an ally in your crusade, agree to have a deal {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(An {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreaker Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
** OR Decline her deal, choosing either "Not a chance" or "Time to die" lines {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Warlock}}, tell her to make a better offer or die {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Paladin}}, say you will find glory in spilling the guts of a monster {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(This option is available for {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreakers}}, too)'' | |||
''Speaking to [[Svend]] and [[Siggy]]:'' | |||
* Ask whether Svend is really worried about a ''date'' when the army of the Absolute can attack any moment {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Persuade Svend he would leave the city at the first chance {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Halfling}}, tell Svend to skip the date for a free drinks {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, convince Svend to stay, asking what's life without a little danger {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Monk}}, tell him to forego the date {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Choose to stay out of their debate and do not meddle in {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Other patrons:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Nesha Leesha]], warn her about the [[Investigate the Murders#Save_the_Victims|serial killer]], then use [[Persuasion]] to insist on it {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you've probably mistaken her for someone else {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Zena]], tell her that if a child was in this dump, they deserve to be 'nabbed' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Silfy]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette''. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * Tell [[Silfy]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette''. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Luan]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette'' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, then tell her to stand up straight and project her voice {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}. | * Tell [[Luan]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette'' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, then tell her to stand up straight and project her voice {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}. | ||
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* When Wulbren, once freed, takes the boat and sails off without the party, let him go {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * When Wulbren, once freed, takes the boat and sails off without the party, let him go {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
* If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
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* Lick the dead spider meat {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} ''(Comes point by point for each lick)'' | * Lick the dead spider meat {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} ''(Comes point by point for each lick)'' | ||
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''<br> | ||
* | |||
''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:'' | |||
* Talking to the [[Fresh Mind]], tell them they will never wake again {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Balthazar]], successfully pretend to be a thrall {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(This option is available only if you helped the necromancer reach the [[Nightsong]] and let him take her to [[Ketheric]])'' | |||
''In the [[Tadpoling Centre]]:'' | |||
* Choose to release pod captives {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
'''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]'''<br> | |||
''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | |||
* If you haven't recruited her earlier, she'll be intent to go to Baldur's Gate with you. Ask whether she should skulk back to the Underdark {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} | |||
** OR Refuse, telling her she is staying here in the shadows. {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} | |||
* When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]] and seize the cult leadership, say eradicating the Elder Brain may be wiser {{Approval|Minthara|-3}} | |||
* OR Declare you will be the saviours of Baldur's Gate, then say her vision of future is shaped by violence {{Approval|Minthara|-3}} | |||
** Then tell her that if she is going to Baldur's Gate, she'll do it alone {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* OR Say that her idea is madness, and you need to eradicate the cult ''and'' the brain {{Approval|Minthara|-3}} | |||
* When Minthara enquires about one more thing to explain... | |||
* ... and asks why you slayed the tieflings in the [[Emerald Grove]]: | |||
** Say you wanted to watch them suffer {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} | |||
** Say you don't have an answer {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** Ask whether it matters {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, tell her you weren't in control of yourself. Then fail a {{Ability check|Deception|14}} to assure her you are now {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} | |||
*** OR answer "No." {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
*... and asks why you have come to Moonrise: | |||
** Say you were looking for more people to kill {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
'' Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, agree to play together a show for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** OR Prompt her to play for them alone {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* Tell her you're glad they are safe, and mention that [[Zevlor]] did his best {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Tell Cerys that other will look up to her {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Say you couldn't have done it without Jaheira's help {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** Then ask her not to speak ill of the dead (i.e. Zevlor) {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]], [[Umi]] and [[Mattis]]:'' | |||
* Tell any of them about [[Mol|Mol's]] eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then: | |||
** Tell Mattis that Mol will already be at Baldur's Gate when they arrive {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** Promise Umi that Mol is fine {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
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* In the [[Wyrmway]], after defeating [[Ansur]], tell the [[Emperor]] "You could do the honorable thing and let him kill you." {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * In the [[Wyrmway]], after defeating [[Ansur]], tell the [[Emperor]] "You could do the honorable thing and let him kill you." {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
'''[[Lower City]]''' | '''[[Lower City]]'''<br> | ||
* | |||
''At the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]]:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, talk to [[Thunder (Flaming Fist)|Gauntlet Thunder]] about proper punishment for two soldiers who screwed up, and tell her to let it slide, just for once {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Arensen|Fist 'Edge' Arensen]] at the gallows, tell him you'll stay out of trouble {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Thrastle Muria]], say that you are no builder but still are handy with a hammer {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Liara Portyr]] and [[Lora Bergauz]]:'' | |||
* Tell Lora it wasn't very responsible to take a kid to a tavern {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Promise to help Lora find [[Vanra Bergauz|her daughter]] {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(A {{Class|Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
''At [[The Blushing Mermaid]]:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Bosun Gannet]], when he instructs you about the tavern rules, say you'll keep to them {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* After dealing with the hag, if real Captain Grisly died, tell Gannet you are sorry for not saving her {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* When talking to the [[Auntie Ethel|hag]] masking as [[Quenora Grisly|Captain Grisly]]: | |||
* When looking for a decision, propose to talk to Lora and calm her down {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* When the hag offers you money for killing Lora, agree, but then return and say you can't do it {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Svend]] and [[Siggy]]:'' | |||
* Tell Svend that Siggy clearly loves him and worries about him {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** OR, PLaying as a {{Class|Bard}}, tell Svend to save the angst for romance novels {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''At [[Crimson Draughts]]:'' | |||
* When Araj Oblodra invites you to come in, agree to follow her {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* If you are partnered with Astarion and he is in the party, refuse [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] invitation to come in, saying you saw how Araj made him feel {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** OR Tell Astarion that you all can leave if he doesn't want to be around Araj {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
▶''''' Note:''' This option is available and brings approval if you '''did not''' convince the spawn to drink Araj's blood in [[Act Two]] AND if his [[The Pale Elf|personal quest]] is not finished yet. '' | |||
* At the [[The Lodge|Society of Brilliance]], refuse to hand the [[Githyanki Egg]] over to [[Havkelaag]] and call his experiment barbaric. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * At the [[The Lodge|Society of Brilliance]], refuse to hand the [[Githyanki Egg]] over to [[Havkelaag]] and call his experiment barbaric. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
Latest revision as of 11:03, 10 December 2024
Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance | Combat |
Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, Minthara has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Minthara's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Currently, regardless of their approval rating or relationship status, Minthara greets the player with: [Needs Verification]
- "You wish to consult me?"
If spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I do not have time for idle chatter."
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to gain approval.
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to lose approval.