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== About Nightsong Points ==

'''Nightsong Points''' are a special approval system, exclusive to [[Shadowheart]]. <br>They influence how the encounter with [[Dame Aylin]] during the final stages of [[Act Two]] plays out, during the quest [[Find the Nightsong]] and also have a certain influence on the final decision in the Shadowheart's [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]].<br/>

There are a total of six Nightsong Points available during the first two acts, obtaining at least four will make Shadowheart start to doubt her devotion to [[Shar]] and unlock otherwise hidden dialogue when encountering the Nightsong.  

The first two points can be acquired after Shadowheart's flashback scene during her [[Companion]] [[quest]], [[Daughter of Darkness]], where she shows the player character her young self, as a group of Sharran worshippers corner a wolf in the woods.

To unlock this event, at least three '''Wolf Dream Points''' have to obtained, which can be accquired while progressing the story:  

#* '''Shadowheart:''' ''We shed those cloaks. Before Shar we stand gloriously naked, beyond the vanities of mortals.''

#* '''Player character:''' ''When you put it like that, it seems strangely comforting.''

#* '''Shadowheart:''' ''There's often suffering - death even. Many people break before they embrace Shar's truths.''

#* '''Player character:''' ''I'd be lying if I said it didn't sound convincing. You should tell me more some time.''

To now gain the two Nightsong Points, the correct choices in the correct order have to be made.

During the conversation with Shadowheart, after her flashback, succeeding a passive {{Ability check|Religion|18}} to unlock the conversation option

* ''You looked like you were wearing a Moonstone...isn't that commonly worn by Selûnites?''

Reading the [[Selûnite Rite]] in the [[Owlbear Nest]] before triggering this conversation, will reveal the knowledge to skip the passive ability check.

[[Cleric]]s of Selûne who don't read Selûnite Rite, also skip the passive ability check and receive a slightly different narration line.

''After'' completing Point 1, continuing the conversation with  

* '''Player character:''' ''No wonder you're so dedicated to Shar - you feel like you owe your life to her.''

* '''Shadowheart:''' ''She made me who I am...at least, as best as I can remember. She taught me, trained me, punished me when I failed her - which was often.''

Now picking

* '''Player character:''' Sounds like abuse.

If choosing the conversation paths required for Point 2 before Point 1, then Point 1 will become unobtainable. The dialogue tree for Clerics of Selûne who haven't read Selûnite Rite does '''not''' have this dialogue option, making this point unobtainable by Selûnite characters unless they also read it before initiating the flashback.  

* ''Your wound is causing you too much pain, Shadowheart. There must be a way to heal it.''

If the approval is 20+, the player character can either pass a {{Ability check|Religion|10}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|12}} to gain the Nightsong point.

* '''Shadowheart:''' ''I've dreamed of this place. This is my destiny - I must complete the trials.''

* '''Player character:''' ''All right, I'll help if I can.''

After obtaining 4 Nightsong points, the player charcter automatically receives <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> flag and Shadowheart might immediately trigger a conversation about her being conflicted. This might not trigger straight away, if other events are queued. As usual, new conversation are indicated by the <code>!</code> above their head.  

If either threshold is hit, Shadowheart will always spare the Nightsong, if the player character doesn't explicitly tell her to kill her.

 

If having a 40+ approval rating with Shadowheart, it is possible to choose the option ''She knows something about you. Spare her, and see what she has to say'' without any DC.

If the player character has 20-40 [[Approval]], but enough Nightsong Points, the conversation will always end in Shadowheart killing the Nightsong. This is assumed to be a bug.

== Shadowheart's parents ==

At the end of her [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]], Shadowheart will have to make a decision: kill her parents or free them.  

If choosing the option ''This is your choice, Shadowheart. You don't need me to tell you what is right.'' and <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> has been recieved (by scoring 4 Nightsong Points): Shadowheart will always kill her parents (regardless of whether she is a Dark Justiciar or not). To free Shadowheart's parents, the player character will have to choose a DC 20 [[Religion]] check or DC 20 [[Persuasion]] check to convince Shadowheart to spare her parents. 

This happens because getting the Nightsong Points' flag <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> blocks getting Parent Points' flag <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_ParentPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code>, which can be received by obtaining two of three [[Daughter of Darkness#Shar's final test - Shadowheart's parents|Parent Points]]. The Parent Points' flag is necessary for Shadowheart to free her parents without a dice check. It is not possible to receive both flags in the same playthrough.

 

If not having received the Nightsong Points' flag and choosing the ''This is your choice...'' option, then a 50+ approval rating and having recieved the Parent Points' flag will result in Shadowheart freeing her parents instead of killing them.

* [https://youtu.be/YdNEya-Np5U?si=JiCoXo-gIvkEPAe8 Shadowheart's Hidden Score | "Nightsong Points" Explained] by SlimX

* [https://youtu.be/4d0zJ4Uy4pI?si=_XVfH3G6p4c19nlP How Does Shadowheart Decide? | "Parent Points" Explained] by SlimX