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 {{hatnote|For the quest, see [[Find the Nightsong]], for other approval systems, see [[Approval]].}}
-== What are Nightsong Points? ==
+== About Nightsong Points ==
-'''Nightsong Points''' are a special approval system, exclusive to [[Shadowheart]]. <br>They influence how the encounter with [[Dame Aylin]] during the final stages of [[Act Two]] plays out, during the quest [[Find the Nightsong]] and also has a certain influence on the final decision in the [[Shadowheart]]'s [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]].<br/>
+'''Nightsong Points''' are a special approval system, exclusive to [[Shadowheart]]. <br>They influence how the encounter with [[Dame Aylin]] during the final stages of [[Act Two]] plays out, during the quest [[Find the Nightsong]] and also have a certain influence on the final decision in the Shadowheart's [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]].<br/>
-There are a total of six Nightsong Points available during the first two acts, obtaining at least four will make [[Shadowheart]] start to doubt her devotion to [[Shar]] and unlock otherwise hidden dialogue when encountering the Nightsong.
+There are a total of six Nightsong Points available during the first two acts, obtaining at least four will make Shadowheart start to doubt her devotion to [[Shar]] and unlock otherwise hidden dialogue when encountering the Nightsong.
 The internal flag for the Nightsong Points is <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_FLAG</code>.
+== Obtaining Nightsong Points ==
 === Points 1 & 2 ===
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 == Changes to dialogue ==
-After collecting 4 Nightsong points, the player automatically receives <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> flag and Shadowheart might immediately trigger a conversation about her being conflicted. This might not trigger straight away, if other events are queued. As usual, new conversation are indicated by the <code>!</code> above their head.
+After obtaining 4 Nightsong points, the player charcter automatically receives <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> flag and Shadowheart might immediately trigger a conversation about her being conflicted. This might not trigger straight away, if other events are queued. As usual, new conversation are indicated by the <code>!</code> above their head.
+More new conversation opportunities will unlock after going to camp the next time, this time without any indicators, other than Shadowhearts changed body language.<br>If you [[long rest]] or leave camp before talking to her here, this will be become unavailable.<br/>
+== The Nightsong ==
-More new conversation opportunities will unlock after going to camp the next time, this time without any indicators, other than Shadowhearts changed body language.<br>If you [[long rest]] or leave camp before talking to her here, this will be become unavailable.<br/>
 During the encounter with the Nightsong, the following flags are checked to enable to additional conversation options:
 * 4+ Nightsong Points
 * 40+ [[Shadowheart/Approval|Approval]] Raiting
-If either threshold is hit, Shadowheart will always spare the Nightsong, if the player doesn't explicitly tell her to kill her.
+If either threshold is hit, Shadowheart will always spare the Nightsong, if the player character doesn't explicitly tell her to kill her.
+If having a 40+ approval rating with Shadowheart, it is possible to choose the option ''She knows something about you. Spare her, and see what she has to say'' without any DC.
+If the player character has 20-40 [[Approval]], but enough Nightsong Points, the conversation will always end in Shadowheart killing the Nightsong. This is assumed to be a bug.
-If the player has 20-40 [[Approval]], but enough Nightsong Points, the conversation will always end in Shadowheart killing the Nightsong. This is assumed to a bug.
+== Shadowheart's parents ==
+At the end of her [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]], Shadowheart will have to make a decision: kill her parents or free them.
-== Consequences in Act 3 ==
+If choosing the option ''This is your choice, Shadowheart. You don't need me to tell you what is right.'' and <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> has been recieved (by scoring 4 Nightsong Points): Shadowheart will always kill her parents (regardless of whether she is a Dark Justiciar or not). To free Shadowheart's parents, the player character will have to choose a DC 20 [[Religion]] check or DC 20 [[Persuasion]] check to convince Shadowheart to spare her parents.
-At the end of the half-elf's [[Daughter of Darkness|personal quest]], Shadowheart will have to make a decision: kill her parents and free herself from Shar's influence or return her family. Among the options for the player to choose is neutral:
-* This is your choice, Shadowheart. You don't need me to tell you what is right.
+This happens because getting the Nightsong Points' flag <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> blocks getting Parent Points' flag <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_ParentPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code>, which can be received by obtaining two of three [[Daughter of Darkness#Shar's final test - Shadowheart's parents|Parent Points]]. The Parent Points' flag is necessary for Shadowheart to free her parents without a dice check. It is not possible to receive both flags in the same playthrough.
-If the player chooses this option and <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_NightsongPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code> is recieved (by scoring 4 Nightsong Points): Shadowheart will always kill her parents (regardless of whether she is a Dark Justiciar or not). Therefore, for another final, the player will have to choose the another option, with a dice check. This happens because getting this flag blocks getting another one - <code>ORI_Shadowheart_State_ParentPoint_HasEnoughPoints</code>, what is related to [[Daughter of Darkness#Shar's final test|Parent Points]].
+That means, if Selûnite Shadowheart spared the Nightsong without being convinced to by DC checks, than she won't spare her parents without being convinced to by DC checks.
-If the player has not received Nightsong's flag and chooses “This is your choice..." option in Act 3: 50+ approval points and recieving Parent Points flag (by scoring 2/3 [[Daughter of Darkness#Shar's final test|Parent Points]]) will result in an automatic liberation of parents after selecting this neutral option.
+If not having received the Nightsong Points' flag and choosing the ''This is your choice...'' option, then a 50+ approval rating and having recieved the Parent Points' flag will result in Shadowheart freeing her parents instead of killing them.
 == See also ==
+* [[Daughter of Darkness]]
+* [[Find the Nightsong]]
 * [[Shadowheart]]
 * [[Shadowheart/Approval]]
-* [[Find the Nightsong]]
-* [[Daughter of Darkness]]
 == External Links ==
-[https://youtu.be/YdNEya-Np5U?si=JiCoXo-gIvkEPAe8 Shadowheart's Hidden Score | "Nightsong Points" Explained] by SlimX
+* [https://youtu.be/YdNEya-Np5U?si=JiCoXo-gIvkEPAe8 Shadowheart's Hidden Score | "Nightsong Points" Explained] by SlimX
+* [https://youtu.be/4d0zJ4Uy4pI?si=_XVfH3G6p4c19nlP How Does Shadowheart Decide? | "Parent Points" Explained] by SlimX
-[https://youtu.be/4d0zJ4Uy4pI?si=_XVfH3G6p4c19nlP How Does Shadowheart Decide? | "Parent Points" Explained] by SlimX
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