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There's no need to use the in-game description verbatim if it's outright wrong. I've now fixed our description to reflect the situation with versatile weapons, and mentioned in the note below that the in-game description is wrong. Also, clarified that this only works with versatile weapons when wielding a shield in the off-hand, since the character will automatically use it as a two-handed weapon if the off-hand is free. [[User:Taylan|Taylan]] ([[User talk:Taylan|talk]]) 02:17, 9 March 2024 (CET) | There's no need to use the in-game description verbatim if it's outright wrong. I've now fixed our description to reflect the situation with versatile weapons, and mentioned in the note below that the in-game description is wrong. Also, clarified that this only works with versatile weapons when wielding a shield in the off-hand, since the character will automatically use it as a two-handed weapon if the off-hand is free. [[User:Taylan|Taylan]] ([[User talk:Taylan|talk]]) 02:17, 9 March 2024 (CET) | ||
:But that's the thing though, the in-game description is ''not'' outright wrong. It's just awkwardly worded. | |||
::''When you are wielding a melee weapon that is not Two-Handed or Versatile in one hand'' | |||
:I suppose it is ambiguous at most, since changing the order in which the requirements appear is enough for clarity (I'm going to assume this is what they were trying to go for): | |||
::''When you are wielding a melee weapon that is Versatile in one hand, or not Two-Handed'' | |||
:[[Special:Contributions/142.127.162.157|142.127.162.157]] 19:58, 23 March 2024 (CET) | |||
::Well, pretty much anyone I ask says they interpret that sentence to mean versatile weapons are excluded. I'm not sure if there's any "official" English grammar rules that say how it should be interpreted, but I think most would take it to mean: ''When wielding a weapon, that is not Two-Handed or Versatile, in one hand...'' Anyhow, I've now edited the page and elaborated on this a bit, mentioning what the in-game description is. | |||
::Funny thing: We had a similar issue with [[Mystra's Blessing]] where for a while I thought "all right, technically it could be interpreted in such a way that the sentence is not wrong, just confusing" but after extensive testing I've found out that it's outright wrong, because you can actually lose the Bless condition yet keep the [[Mystra's Blessing (Staff of Arcane Blessing) (Condition)|Mystra's Blessing condition]] and its tooltip will claim you still have the full bonuses, but all you'll be left with is a +1d4 to spell attacks. [[User:Taylan|Taylan]] ([[User talk:Taylan|talk]]) 13:33, 24 March 2024 (CET) | |||
Latest revision as of 14:33, 24 March 2024
Fixed description[edit source]
There's no need to use the in-game description verbatim if it's outright wrong. I've now fixed our description to reflect the situation with versatile weapons, and mentioned in the note below that the in-game description is wrong. Also, clarified that this only works with versatile weapons when wielding a shield in the off-hand, since the character will automatically use it as a two-handed weapon if the off-hand is free. Taylan (talk) 02:17, 9 March 2024 (CET)
- But that's the thing though, the in-game description is not outright wrong. It's just awkwardly worded.
- When you are wielding a melee weapon that is not Two-Handed or Versatile in one hand
- I suppose it is ambiguous at most, since changing the order in which the requirements appear is enough for clarity (I'm going to assume this is what they were trying to go for):
- When you are wielding a melee weapon that is Versatile in one hand, or not Two-Handed
- 142.127.162.157 19:58, 23 March 2024 (CET)
- Well, pretty much anyone I ask says they interpret that sentence to mean versatile weapons are excluded. I'm not sure if there's any "official" English grammar rules that say how it should be interpreted, but I think most would take it to mean: When wielding a weapon, that is not Two-Handed or Versatile, in one hand... Anyhow, I've now edited the page and elaborated on this a bit, mentioning what the in-game description is.
- Funny thing: We had a similar issue with Mystra's Blessing where for a while I thought "all right, technically it could be interpreted in such a way that the sentence is not wrong, just confusing" but after extensive testing I've found out that it's outright wrong, because you can actually lose the Bless condition yet keep the Mystra's Blessing condition and its tooltip will claim you still have the full bonuses, but all you'll be left with is a +1d4 to spell attacks. Taylan (talk) 13:33, 24 March 2024 (CET)