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== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. == | == Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. == | ||
= Permanently acquiring Shovel = | |||
[[https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)|Shovel]] | |||
===Open Questions=== | |||
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her? | |||
===Needs Verification=== | |||
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll. | *You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll. | ||
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?). | *Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?). | ||
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*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests. | *This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests. | ||
*A character can temporarily respecc for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again. | *A character can temporarily respecc for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again. | ||
===Warlocks=== | |||
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if they summons her from the scroll, use disguise self and talk to her again - seems redundant. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ current test results | |||
|- | |||
! summon from scroll !! talk to Shovel again !! result | |||
|- | |||
| Wyll || disguised Wyll || ✖ | |||
|- | |||
| disguised Wyll || Wyll || ✔ | |||
|- | |||
| Wyll || Wyll || ✔ | |||
|- | |||
| Sorcerer || Wyll || ✖ | |||
|- | |||
| Sorcerer || disguised Wyll || ✖ | |||
|- | |||
| random other class || Wyll || ✔ | |||
|} | |||
===Sorcerer=== | |||
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell | *Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell | ||
Revision as of 09:10, 29 January 2024
Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly.
Permanently acquiring Shovel
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Open Questions
- Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?
Needs Verification
- You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
- Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).
- If a wizard scribed the spell and follows some dialogue rules, another caster can then also learn to summon Shovel permanently.
- This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.
- A character can temporarily respecc for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.
Warlocks
- Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if they summons her from the scroll, use disguise self and talk to her again - seems redundant.
| summon from scroll | talk to Shovel again | result |
|---|---|---|
| Wyll | disguised Wyll | ✖ |
| disguised Wyll | Wyll | ✔ |
| Wyll | Wyll | ✔ |
| Sorcerer | Wyll | ✖ |
| Sorcerer | disguised Wyll | ✖ |
| random other class | Wyll | ✔ |
Sorcerer
- Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell