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*I wanted to include this build just for fun, but it's not a very "good" spellblade.
*I wanted to include this build just for fun, but it's not a very "good" spellblade.


'''1. 6 Warlock + 6 Bard / 6 Bard + 5 Warlock + 1 Fighter:''' A little bit more restrictive, the Extra Attack that '''College of Swords''' Bards gain synergizes with the extra attack from '''Deepened Pact''' the same way that Paladin does, but comes a level later, making this build less flexible.  However, the trade-off here is that we are not restricted to melee weapons, can use Slashing Flourish to attack two targets with one attack, and we can still attack three times per action.  This effectively gives us more attacks in group encounters when compared to the Paladin version of this build, and does scale better with on-hit, additive bonuses to our damage, but makes us less effective in single-target encounters. Otherwise, the main benefit this build has over the Paladin version is access to much better utility spells, in my opinion.
'''1. 6 Warlock + 6 Bard / 6 Bard + 5 Warlock + 1 Fighter:''' The Extra Attack that '''College of Swords''' Bards gain synergizes with the extra attack from '''Deepened Pact''' the same way that Paladin does, but comes a level later, making this build less flexible.  However, the trade-off here is that we are not restricted to melee weapons, can use Slashing Flourish to attack two targets with one attack, and we can still attack three times per action.  This effectively gives us more attacks in group encounters when compared to the Paladin version of this build, and does scale better with on-hit, additive bonuses to our damage, but makes us less effective in single-target encounters. Otherwise, the main benefit this build has over the Paladin version is access to much better utility spells, in my opinion.
*With 6 Bard levels, you will have 4 Bardic Inspiration charges that refresh per Short Rest.
*With 6 Bard levels, you will have 4 Bardic Inspiration charges that refresh per Short Rest.
*With 6 Warlock levels, you will have 2 level 3 spell slots that refresh per Short Rest.
*With 6 Warlock levels, you will have 2 level 3 spell slots that refresh per Short Rest.

Revision as of 07:03, 7 October 2023


  • Work in Progress*

Introduction

This is a collection of items that I think benefit the Gish (or Spellblade) play style in a way that is stronger than simply having a character that uses spells with occasional weapon attacks, or vice versa. Specifically, these items leverage Arcane Acuity and Arcane Synergy to empower characters that use spells and weapon attacks in tandem with one another. Characters properly built in this style can do quite a bit of damage, but mostly they're just fun.

Overview

First of all, are Gish characters good? It... depends. Generally speaking, I find that a more focused character is going to perform better than a character that dabbles in a little bit of everything, so something like a Thief Rogue or a Great Weapons Master character will do better physical damage than a Gish, while a Sorcerer or a Wizard will probably do better spell damage than a Gish. The trick here is that a proper Gish can be extremely flexible, with access to both physical and magical damage in combat. Likewise, a Gish will often have utility that a purely physical character won't, like Longstrider or Minor Illusion, and will be more durable and persistent in combat than a pure spell caster, so there's definitely a trade-off.

There are a couple of different ways you can build a Gish, or a Spellblade, or a Hexblade, whatever you want to call it, which I will go over later. There are two main distinctions between Gish builds, whether you want to do damage, or whether you want to be useful. Not that doing damage isn't useful, but you get the idea. The distinction between damage and utility is important, because different builds will focus on different aspects of a Spellblade's kit, considering things like Eldritch Strike, Shield, or Defensive Flourish as possible options. Whichever roll you want your Gish to fill, you will need to know ahead of time, and prepare for. Obviously, you can have a Gish that does both, but not all Gish will be able to do both, if that makes sense.

Likewise, I'm not going to include every Gish build I can think of, because there are a lot of bad one's. This will hopefully be a list of builds that I think are actually worth trying, and not just a list of every striker class with spell slots (looking at you, Ranger).

Some Build Ideas

Primarily Striker Builds (Str or Dex)

1. 5 Paladin + 5 Warlock + 2 Fighter: Probably the strongest single target melee build in the game, this build utilizes a possibly unintended interaction between Improved Pact: Pact of the Blade Warlocks and the Extra Attack class feature from other striker classes. Currently, this combination of Improved Pact and Extra Attack allows a character to make a weapon attack three times per action, and naturally scales further with other sources of bonus actions.

  • While you can do this with classes other than Paladin, like Bard, Paladin offers the greatest single target burst damage due to Divine Smite, and also does extra damage to fiends and undead, which happen to be a good number of enemies and bosses in this game.
  • If you use Bind Weapon, you can dump strength and completely focus on Charisma for better spell accuracy.
  • I wanted to include this build just for fun, but it's not a very "good" spellblade.

1. 6 Warlock + 6 Bard / 6 Bard + 5 Warlock + 1 Fighter: The Extra Attack that College of Swords Bards gain synergizes with the extra attack from Deepened Pact the same way that Paladin does, but comes a level later, making this build less flexible. However, the trade-off here is that we are not restricted to melee weapons, can use Slashing Flourish to attack two targets with one attack, and we can still attack three times per action. This effectively gives us more attacks in group encounters when compared to the Paladin version of this build, and does scale better with on-hit, additive bonuses to our damage, but makes us less effective in single-target encounters. Otherwise, the main benefit this build has over the Paladin version is access to much better utility spells, in my opinion.

  • With 6 Bard levels, you will have 4 Bardic Inspiration charges that refresh per Short Rest.
  • With 6 Warlock levels, you will have 2 level 3 spell slots that refresh per Short Rest.
  • Since we don't have Divine Smite with this build, we can use our spell slots for AoE or Crowd Control instead. Or Misty Step. Or Darkness; Devil's Sight + Darkness is a pretty brutal combo.
  • Same as before, Bind Weapon allows you to use your Charisma for weapon attack and damage rolls.
  • Beguiling Influence is really good for party faces.

Wisdom as your main Spellcasting modifier

Wisdom builds (Cleric/Monk/Druid)


Intelligence as your main Spellcasting modifier

1. 11 Fighter + 1 Wizard / 5-7 Fighter + 5-7 Wizard:

2. 8 Rogue + 3 Bard + 1 Wizard / 10 Rogue + 2 Wizard / 9 Rogue + 1-2 Wizard + 1-2 Fighter: This is my attempt to make an Arcane Trickster that actually made sense, I made this. Is it good? I have no idea. 9 Rogue gives you Magical Ambush, which feels like the only reason you would take Arcane Trickster in the first place. The Bard levels are mostly for Defensive Flourish, but without Improved Bardic Inspiration you are really lacking combat options over the course of multiple battles. Still, with a strong enough alpha strike, maybe it doesn't matter.

  • 2 levels of Wizard give you access to either the Abjuration or Divination subclass. Alternatively, you can take Evocation and use Cunning Action: Hide multiple time throughout a fight to nuke groups of enemies.
  • 2 levels of Fighter gives you Action Surge. You know this.

Charisma as your main Spellcasting modifier

1. 8 Paladin + 4 Sorcerer / 6 Paladin + 6 Sorceror / 5 Paladin + 4 Sorceror + 3 Fighter: An evolution of the Divine Smite build listed earlier, the inclusion of Sorceror levels instead of Warlock levels reduces the number of attacks we can make in a single turn, but allows us to cast spells as a bonus action using Quicken Magic. 5 levels of Paladin give us two attacks per action, while 3 levels of Sorceror is mandatory for a single use of Quicken Magic per Long Rest. Alternatively, 8 levels of Paladin give us another feat, as well as Auras depending on your Oath. At level 6 Sorceror, we can use Quicken Magic twice per Long Rest; I would not recommend going past 6 levels of Sorceror, unless you really want a cast of Twinned Spell or something. 2 levels of Fighter give Action Surge, while 3 levels of Fighter allow us to take Battlemaster or Champion for better Striking.

  • This build is very linear, but allows for enough spell slots to have meaningful choices in how we approach combat scenarios. Typically you will want to spend your spell slots on Divine Smite or Hold Person for very reliable, self-sufficient damage, but you will have access to spells like Haste, Fireball, or Counterspell with 5 levels of Sorcerer or higher.
  • At 6 Paladin and 6 Sorcerer, you will have 4/3/3/3/1 spell slots, respectively.
  • At 5 Paladin and 4 Sorcerer, you will have 4/3/3, but will have access to 3 Superiority Die through the Battlemaster subclass.
  • If you use Potion of Hill/Cloud Giant Strength, you can dump Strength as a stat and run 14 Dex, 16 Con, 17 Cha at base.

2. 6 Paladin + 6 Bard / 6 Bard + 2-4 Paladin + 2-4 Fighter: If you've ever wanted to have multiple fighting styles that don't synergize, this build is for you. Of the two, I believe Bard spikes much harder at level 6 than Paladin does, due to Improved Bardic Inspiration refreshing charges on every Short Rest instead of Long Rest, and the two Extra Attacks don't stack, unlike with Warlock.

  • The main advantage I see of this build is specifically being able to use Slashing Flourish + Inquisitor's Might or Hunter's Mark from Oath of Vengeance. I don't know if I think that's worth it.
  • 4 levels in Paladin give you spell slots and immunity to disease, which is nice. 3 levels of Fighter gives you Battlemaster, or I guess Eldritch Knight if you take purely utility spells like Shield.

3. 6 Bard + 6 Sorcerer / 6 Bard + 4 Sorcerer + 2 Fighter / 6 Bard + 3 Sorcerer + 3 Fighter / 8 Bard + 4 Sorcerer: Bard can be substituted for Paladin in any Gish build I can think of, trading Divine Smite for, typically, Slashing Flourish. Like the "Sorcadin," a, uh, "Sord" build allows you to combo flexible crowd control with good physical hits, usually through Hold Person, and so the same rules apply. However, as noted in other parts of this guide, the extra level you need to gain extra attack as a Bard does limit your build flexibility. However, because both Bard and Sorcerer are full spellcasters, you will have significantly more spell slots, making spell combat a bigger part of your turn-by-turn strategy. To help even out your physical options, 2 levels into Fighter will net you Action Surge or, if you want less Metamagic, you can take 3 levels of Fighter for Battlemaster maneuvers. The specific breakdown for your character levels will change depending on how many feats you want.

  • Highly recommend to take 6 levels of Bard, at bare minimum, for the Extra Attack. There's some niche for a 4-6 College of Lore Bard + 6-8 Sorcerer, just because of Cutting Words, but that is much more of a pure support build, and doesn't really utilize weapon attacks at all.

4. 6 Bard + 4-5 Rogue + 1-2 Wizard: A better version of Arcane Trickster, in my opinion, uses Charisma as it's Spellcasting Modifier, and only uses Wizard spells for utility. Compared to the version of this build listed earlier, this build will have more spell slots and more uses of Bardic Inspiration. You can actually skip Arcane Trickster entirely for Thief or Assassin, depending on your preferences. I created this build to be very tanky while still being able to deal good damage. Like Eldritch Knight, it is primarily a striker class that uses spells for utility rather than damage.

  • Defensive Flourish + Shield gives you 9 bonus Armor Class in a single turn. A shield gives you another +2 AC, minimum.
  • The main advantage of pulling from the Wizard spell list is the ability to learn spells from scrolls. Plus Misty Step for crazy mobility.
  • 2 levels of Wizard gives you access to either Abjuration or Divination, both increase your survivability.
  • Thief is probably still the best Rogue subclass for this build, as usual. A build that improves Arcane Trickster by not picking Arcane Trickster at all.


5. 12 levels of Paladin or Pact of the Blade Warlock: Very simple, but these are technically Gish in the sense that they have spells and have blades. Good for a first playthrough, since these classes will still allow you to utilize the Arcane Acuity and Arcane Synergy items without really having to know how character builds work.

  • Take Lifedrinker at level 12 to pump up your Warlock's melee attacks.

Equipment

Helmets

Diadem of Arcane Synergy

Helmet of Arcane Acuity

Browbeaten Circlet

Hat of Fire Acuity

Hat of Storm Scion's Power

The Lifebringer

Warped Headband of Intellect

Diadem of Arcane Synergy

Pyroquickness Hat

Helm of Arcane Acuity

Capes

Gloves

Gloves of Battlemage's Power

Armor

Boots

Boots of Arcane Bolstering

Accessories

Ring of Arcane Synergy

Weapons (and Shields)