Talk:Dead (Condition)

Examples where the death of a companion is permanent

While not necessarily a comprehensive list, below are known scenarios where death is permanent with characters who are recruitable companions:

•  Astarion is killed by the player character upon waking up to his attempt to feed on them.
  • A companion dies if Astarion is played as Origin and he fails a Saving Throw to stop himself from drinking all of their blood at camp during an evening Long Rest cutscene.
•  Gale's hand is chopped off by the player character as  The Dark Urge at the Roadside Cliffs Ancient Rune Circle.
•  Halsin dies while attempting to ⁠rescue  Thaniel from the Shadow Curse.
•  Jaheira is killed during the initial ⁠assault on Moonrise Towers or the subsequent battle with  Ketheric Thorm atop the Towers.
•  Karlach is killed as part of Wyll's ⁠questline, before or after being admitted to the party.
•  Lae'zel is killed by  Shadowheart in an evening cut-scene at camp after their argument over the  Mysterious Artefact.
  • Tricking Lae'zel into killing herself first when she reveals her intent to mercy kill the party.
•  Minsc is killed during the fight in the ⁠Lower City Sewers.
•  Minthara is killed while being ⁠escorted out of Moonrise Towers before being admitted to the party campsite.
  • Minthara is killed in the Shattered Sanctum or during the ⁠assault she leads on the Emerald Grove.
•  Shadowheart is killed in the Shadowfell after a conflict with the party as part of her quest ⁠The Chosen of Shar.
•  Wyll is killed by Karlach or other party members during a cut-scene confrontation just prior to long-resting, after both have been recruited.
• A companion is sacrificed to  BOOOAL in The Festering Cove.
• Lae'zel, Halsin, Gale, or Minthara is killed by  Orin while ⁠chained to the Altar of Bhaal.
• A companion gives their body and soul to  Haarlep.
•  Alfira, a temporary companion, is an exception to the above. Should she be recruited and perish at any point after being recruited, she cannot be revived.
•  Losiir, a temporary companion, is also an exception to the above. After recruitment onboard the ⁠Nautiloid, even if he survives the battle with  Commander Zhalk to ⁠escape, he dies upon crashing on the ⁠Ravaged Beach and cannot be revived.

Raelin (talk) 23:11, 18 July 2026 (CEST)

I don't love using the talk page as overflow like this. I'd suggest instead splitting the permanent removal section of the companions page into === Death === and === Departure === and then linking there. Capranaut (talk) 23:23, 18 July 2026 (CEST)

The idea sounds good to me but I'm not understading the implementation. Can you show me one example? I can take it from there. Raelin (talk) 23:58, 18 July 2026 (CEST)

Something along the lines of User:Capranaut/Sandbox Capranaut (talk) 00:10, 19 July 2026 (CEST)

Are we talking about having a departure section on companion approval pages then? Raelin (talk) 00:15, 19 July 2026 (CEST)

I was talking about Companions#Permanent removal Capranaut (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2026 (CEST)

I think I understand now. I'll try with one. Please let me know what you think. Raelin (talk) 00:40, 19 July 2026 (CEST)