I admit this is a slippery slope (as is this entire topic): I do not want to use subjective language (which I feel like I did) but also don't think we should underplay some of Astarion's behavior during this path's romance, depending on your choices. I also don't think it merits a warning for other players, but I think saying this his reactions here are par for the course for arguably not only Astarion but all characters feels like a misrepresentation.
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(I admit this is a slippery slope (as is this entire topic): I do not want to use subjective language (which I feel like I did) but also don't think we should underplay some of Astarion's behavior during this path's romance, depending on your choices. I also don't think it merits a warning for other players, but I think saying this his reactions here are par for the course for arguably not only Astarion but all characters feels like a misrepresentation.) |
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If the player long-rests after the [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Rite_of_Profane_Ascension Rite of Profane Ascension] concludes, an additional scene with Astarion will be triggered. The scene will vary depending on the outcome of the rite – ascended or not. Both options have additional content, along with the potential for a love confession and a subsequent romance scene. | If the player long-rests after the [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Rite_of_Profane_Ascension Rite of Profane Ascension] concludes, an additional scene with Astarion will be triggered. The scene will vary depending on the outcome of the rite – ascended or not. Both options have additional content, along with the potential for a love confession and a subsequent romance scene. | ||
* If Astarion ascends, the player has the option to become a vampire spawn. Dialogue selection will determine whether the suggestion to become a vampire comes from Astarion or the player. During this conversation, multiple dialogue options can lead to Astarion telling the player he loves them (4 variations). Note | * If Astarion ascends, the player has the option to become a vampire spawn. Dialogue selection will determine whether the suggestion to become a vampire comes from Astarion or the player. During this conversation, multiple dialogue options can lead to Astarion telling the player he loves them (4 variations). Note that Astarion will not take kindly to being challenged during this scene and can answer in a volatile or manipulative way. | ||
** Astarion will not continue the relationship with a player who does not want to become a spawn, but he will remain in the party. If the player does not long-rest and instead goes straight to the end-game fight, the relationship continues with Astarion and a mortal player. | ** Astarion will not continue the relationship with a player who does not want to become a spawn, but he will remain in the party. If the player does not long-rest and instead goes straight to the end-game fight, the relationship continues with Astarion and a mortal player. | ||
** If the player initially consents to becoming his vampire spawn, the player can then consent to sleeping with him again or not - neither option impacts Astarion's decision to turn the player into a spawn (this offer can come from Astarion or the player depending on dialogue selection). | ** If the player initially consents to becoming his vampire spawn, the player can then consent to sleeping with him again or not - neither option impacts Astarion's decision to turn the player into a spawn (this offer can come from Astarion or the player depending on dialogue selection). If the Player Character sleeps with him, Astarion bites the player. | ||
*** Immediately following the romance scene, another scene occurs where he turns the player into his spawn. He will ask the player to kneel, you can consent to kneeling, refuse to consent and say no, or kick him in the crotch. Note: If the player | *** Immediately following the romance scene, another scene occurs where he turns the player into his spawn. He will ask the player to kneel, you can consent to kneeling, refuse to consent and say no, or kick him in the crotch. Note: If the player kicks him, he will permanently leave the party. If the player says no to kneeling a second time, the relationship will end. If the player continues to consent to becoming his vampire spawn, Astarion will bite the player; the player can ask for a gentle (on the hand) or rough (hand around the neck) option. | ||
*** Either way, Astarion will thank the player for giving him everything and bite the player a | *** Either way, Astarion will thank the player for giving him everything and bite the player a final time. After awakening, the player will have received the [[Vampire Bite|Bite]] ability which provides the [[Happy (Condition)|Happy]] condition. The location of the romance scene depends on the location of the player’s camp (e.g., if the player’s camp is in [[Elfsong Tavern]], the romance and turning scene takes place in a private room there). | ||
* If playing as [[Karlach]] origin, there is no romance scene, as Astarion is not able to turn her into a spawn. If he attempted and failed to turn her, Astarion blames Karlach for it and become derisive towards her. {{note|During their next conversation, depending on dialogue selections, Astarion may call Karlach '' "pathetic" '', ''"broken"'', and ''"doomed"''}}. | * If playing as [[Karlach]] origin, there is no romance scene, as Astarion is not able to turn her into a spawn. If he attempted and failed to turn her, Astarion blames Karlach for it and become derisive towards her. {{note|During their next conversation, depending on dialogue selections, Astarion may call Karlach '' "pathetic" '', ''"broken"'', and ''"doomed"''}}. |