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== Walkthrough ==
== Walkthrough ==
[[File:Madeline Ledger Plank Quest.jpg|thumb|A loose plank holds the ledger.]]
[[File:Madeline Ledger Plank Quest.jpg|thumb|A loose plank holds the ledger.]]
He Who Was (X:126, Y:105) can be found in the Ruined Battlefield east of the [[Last Light Inn]]. He has a ritual circle set up and is using [[Speak with Dead]] on a corpse. He Who Was initially tells the party to clear off, but his white raven suggests they might be able to help. He explains that the woman is [[Madeline]] and she is a murderer. She worked at [[The Waning Moon]] and kept logs on all her patrons, betraying their secrets. He asks the party to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] at the tavern and bring it back.
A {{FRWiki|Shadar-Kai}} called He Who Was (X:126, Y:105) can be found in the Ruined Battlefield east of the [[Last Light Inn]]. He has a ritual circle set up and is using [[Speak with Dead]] on a corpse. He Who Was initially tells the party to clear off, but his white raven suggests they might be able to help. He explains that the woman is [[Madeline]], and she is a murderer. She worked at [[The Waning Moon]] and kept logs on all her patrons, betraying their secrets to the Dark Justiciars. He asks the party to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] at the tavern and bring it back.
 
[[File:He_Who_Was_Quest.webp|thumb|He Who Was]]
[[File:He_Who_Was_Quest.webp|thumb|He Who Was]]
The Waning Moon is in [[Reithwin Town]], east of the Tollhouse and west of the Road to Baldur's Gate Waypoint. When the party enters, a cutscene is initiated with the bartender, [[Thisobald Thorm]]. The party must either fight the bartender, or pass several checks. There are three Constitution or Sleight of Hand checks, and three Performance checks.
The Waning Moon is in [[Reithwin Town]], east of the Tollhouse and west of the Road to Baldur's Gate Waypoint. When the party enters, a cutscene is initiated with the bartender, [[Thisobald Thorm]]. The party must either fight the bartender, or pass several checks. There are three Constitution or Sleight of Hand checks, and three Performance checks.


The ledger is behind the bar, under a loose plank (X:-223, Y:-78) that is detected with a Perception check. Open it and take the ledger, then return to the Ruined Battlefield to speak with He Who Was.
The ledger is behind the bar, under a loose plank (X:-223, Y:-78) that is detected with a Perception check. Open it and take the ledger, then return to the Ruined Battlefield to speak with He Who Was.


If the party gives the ledger over to He Who Was, he is able to channel the spirit of Madeline in his body. The party can ask Madeline about the details of what happened. She claims that he logged her two friends saying things drunkenly insulting the Thorms. The Dark Justiciar told her that they wouldn't be killed and she'd just have a chat with them. Instead, she gave them knives and told them to keep stabbing until she said to stop - but she never said to stop. Madeline regrets it deeply. The party can either tell her to stab herself like what happened to her friends (DC 14), call her a coward (DC 10), or tell her she is forgiven for her crimes (DC 10).
If the player hands the ledger to He Who Was, he will perform a ritual to channel Madeline's spirit through his own body, allowing the player to speak to her.
 
Madeline claims she had been instructed by Dark Justiciar Netasha to report everything, big or small; she was too scared to say no, which is why she reported her friends complaining about Ketheric while drunk. The Dark Justiciar promised she would simply chat with the two men. Instead, she gave them knives, and told them to stab themselves until she said stop - but she never said to stop. Madeline regrets it and is horrified that her actions led to the deaths of her friends.
 
There are several ways to deal with Madeline after learning of her story:
* {{Ability check|Persuasion|14}} Make her stab herself, either once or twice.
* {{Ability check|Persuasion|10}} Call her a coward.
* {{Ability check|Persuasion|10}} Tell her she is forgiven.
 
If Madeline is made to stab herself once, or is shamed as a coward, then He Who Was will be satisfied with the results and gives the party the {{RarityItem|Raven Gloves}} as a reward. If you forgive her, or make her stab herself a second time, he will become enraged and attack the party. (Each stab inflicts 5 damage, which will carry over into combat.) Failing any of the rolls will have the connection fade, and while He Who Was will be slightly disappointed, he will still reward your efforts.
 
[[The Dark Urge]] may have a special interaction with Madeline if they previously {{Linkblur|killed their dearest companion}}. They will share this with her and say there can be no atonement for such a deed, at which point Madeline will become overwhelmed with guilt and fade away, with the same results as shaming her for her cowardice but requiring no Persuasion checks. (He Who Was will also comment on the Dark Urge's guilt, but will not attack.)
 
{{Class|Paladin}}s will break their Oaths during this quest if certain actions are taken:
* [[Oath of Vengeance]]: Forgive Madeline, prevent her from going through with stabbing herself, or attack He Who Was before the ritual starts
* [[Oath of Devotion]]/[[Oath of the Ancients]]: Make Madeline stab herself, or call her a coward


If Madeline is made to stab herself once, or is shamed as a coward, He Who Was is satisfied. If you attempt to forgive her, or make her stab herself a second time, he becomes enraged and attacks the party. Each stabbing inflicts 5 damage which persists into combat.
Paladins may end up breaking their Oath depending on how the quest is resolved:
* Oath of Vengeance: Forgive her, or attack He Who Was before the ritual starts
* Oath of Devotion/Ancients: Make her stab herself, or call her a coward


== Companion Approval ==
== Companion Approval ==
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:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|+1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|+1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
* When judging Madeline:
* When judging Madeline:
:* ({{SkillCheck|Persuasion|14}}) Tell her to stab herself.
:* Tell her to stab herself.
:: {{Approval|Gale|-1}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|+1}} {{Approval|Wyll|-1}} {{Approval|Karlach|-1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} {{Approval|Halsin|-1}}
:: {{Approval|Gale|-1}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|+1}} {{Approval|Wyll|-1}} {{Approval|Karlach|-1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} {{Approval|Halsin|-1}}
::* Tell her to "start stabbing, and don't stop until I say so," or to "prove you're sorry. Do it for Ben and Marc."
::* Tell her to "start stabbing, and don't stop until I say so," or to "prove you're sorry. Do it for Ben and Marc."
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::* Tell her to stop.
::* Tell her to stop.
::: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-2}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
::: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-2}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
:* ({{SkillCheck|Persuasion|10}}) Call her a coward.
:* Call her a coward.
:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
:* ({{SkillCheck|Persuasion|10}}) Forgive her.
:* Forgive her.
:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}
:: {{Approval|Gale|+1}} {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|-1}} {{Approval|Wyll|+1}} {{Approval|Karlach|+1}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} {{Approval|Halsin|+1}}


== Quest Reward ==
== Quest Reward ==
* {{RarityItem|Raven Gloves}} - If Madeline is stabbed or called a coward
* {{RarityItem|Raven Gloves}} (If Madeline is stabbed once or called a coward)
* Loot from [[He Who Was|He Who Was']] body - If Madeline is forgiven
* Loot from [[He Who Was|He Who Was']] body (If Madeline is forgiven or stabbed multiple times)
== External Links==
 
* He Who Was belongs to a Shadowfell subset of elf known as the [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Shadar-kai%20(elf) Shadar-kai]
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