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== Involvement ==
== Involvement ==
=== Act One ===
=== Act One ===
Orin is not present in the first act of the game, but her silhouette can be seen during the Absolute's vision which shows all the three Chosen of the Absolute.
Though Orin is not present in the first act of the game, her involvement in the plot is alluded to when the [[Absolute]] attempts to take over the party's mind and they see a vision of her [[Chosen]] shortly before being repelled by the [[Mysterious Artefact]].
 
=== Act Two ===
=== Act Two ===
Orin first appears in person alongside [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Enver Gortash]] in the mind flayer colony underneath [[Moonrise Towers]]. Using [[Orin's Netherstone|her Netherstone]], the Lash of Bhaal, she issues the order to the Netherbrain to march the Absolute's armies on [[Baldur's Gate]].
Orin first appears alongside [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Enver Gortash]] in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] beneath [[Moonrise Towers]]. An argument breaks out between Gortash and Ketheric and is stopped from becoming a fight due to her intervention. Having successfully kidnapped [[Ulder Ravengard]], she also takes the opportunity to plant a tadpole in the duke's eye as part of their plan to take over the city. She then joins the other Chosen and uses her [[Orin's Netherstone|netherstone]], ''the Lash of Bhaal'', with them to order the [[Netherbrain]] to march the Absolute's armies on [[Baldur's Gate]].


=== Act Three ===
=== Act Three ===
After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.  
{{main|Get Orin's Netherstone}}
 
After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. If engaged by [[The Dark Urge]], she will reveal their relationship as siblings mockingly and taunt them. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.


If the player chooses to ally themselve with [[Enver Gortash|Gortash]] during the coronation, he will reveal that one of your camp followers has been replaced by Orin{{ref|Although Gortash reveals this, the player is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the [[Lower City]]}}.  
Gortash may offer an alliance with the party if spoken to before confronting Orin. Tired of her theatrics and unreliability, Gortash will offer to join forces to subdue the Netherbrain for good and rule the [[Sword Coast]] together if the party slays Orin and brings her netherstone. In order to convince the party, he also reveals that their camp has been compromised by Orin who is masquerading as a party member.{{note|Although Gortash reveals this, the party is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the Lower City.}} If agreed to, Gortash proves to be true to his word if his conditions are fulfilled.


After the player enters the [[Lower City]] there are various triggers{{ref|Known triggers: Entering the canalization, long resting}} in which Orin reveals to have shapeshifted into one of your camp followers. This starts the [[Rescue Orin's Victim]] Quest and the [[Get Orin's Netherstone]] Quest. Orin wants the player to kill Gortash and will offer to set the victim free after Gortash is killed.
Upon entering the [[Lower City]], Orin will kidnap a member of the party unbeknownst to the rest of the group. Who she kidnaps, when and how it's revealed depends largely on player relationships with their companions. Orin will confront the party and announce that she holds a hostage, demanding they deal with Gortash first and face her in a duel, winner takes all. This encounter initiates [[Rescue Orin's Victim]].


In order to get Orin's Netherstone the player will need to visit the [[Murder Tribunal]]. After either becoming an [[Cult of Bhaal|Unholy Assassin]] or slaying [[Sarevok Anchev|Sarevok]] the player will be able to enter [[Bhaal Temple]]. There Orin and the kidnapping victim can be found.
In order to get Orin's netherstone, the group will need to visit the [[Murder Tribunal]] in the [[Undercity Ruins]] as the [[Temple of Bhaal]] is open only to those deemed worthy by Bhaal. At the tribunal, the party is welcomed by a familiar face, [[Sarevok Anchev]]. Sarevok will reveal how the Bhaalists survived the events of years prior, as well as his connection to Orin as her grandfather. If confronted by The Dark Urge, he further elaborates on Orin's involvement in their fall from Bhaal's grace, excited at the prospect of a Bhaalspawn duel in the ranks of the cult. He will require offer passage to the Temple of Bhaal if the party proves to be worthy by becoming an [[Cult of Bhaal#Unholy Assassins|Unholy Assassin]], which requires impressing the tribunal with a killing prior and then the sacrifice of a celestial being. Alternatively, the party can simply decide to fight Sarevok, a prospect he welcomes eagerly. Either given as a worthy Bhaalite or looted from Sarevok's corpse, with the [[Amulet of Bhaal]] in hand, the party can finally confront Orin.


Irrespective of previous choices Orin will try to kill her victim. The player can interrupt her by passing dialogue checks, thus saving the victim. Then the fight against Orin will begin.
Orin will be found at the Altar of Bhaal, deep within the temple. There, she will be toying with her kidnapping victim surrounded by Bhaalist cultists. When approached, Orin will threaten to kill her hostage, though she can be convinced otherwise through dialogue. The Dark Urge can persuade her to duel them as is bhaalist tradition, to which she will eagerly agree. Alternatively, she can be informed of Sarevok's treachery and lies by disclosing that he is actually both her grandfather ''and'' father, Orin being born out of the incestuous relationship with her mother. Unable to cope with the truth, she reels as Bhaal commands her to fight. Regardless of the outcome of the conversation, Orin will attack in her [[Slayer]] form.


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Once defeated, the party is able too loot her corpse and find her netherstone.
When encountering Orin for the first time as the [[Dark Urge]] she will reveal their previous relationship. The [[Dark Urge]] will also be able to choose different dialogue options when interacting with her. One of the dialogue options to save the victim from Orin can be made with Advantage when playing as the [[Dark Urge]].}}


== Orin's shapeshifting ==
== Orin's shapeshifting ==
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* [[Lens]], a journalist for the [[Baldur's Mouth|Baldur's Mouth Gazette]].
* [[Lens]], a journalist for the [[Baldur's Mouth|Baldur's Mouth Gazette]].
* [[Gyldro Angleiron]], a blacksmith in the [[Rivington General]].
* [[Gyldro Angleiron]], a blacksmith in the [[Rivington General]].
* A wounded thug of the [[Stone Lord]] near the [[Western Beach]].
* A dying [[Stone Lord]] thug near the [[Western Beach]].


== Combat ==
== Combat ==
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=== Loot ===
=== Loot ===
* {{RarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Studded Leather Armour +2}}
* {{RarityItem|Mutilated Carapace}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Ring of Murderous Opportunity}}
* {{RarityItem|Bloodthirst|alias=Netherstone-Pommelled Bloodthirst}} – separates on pick-up into:
* {{MdRarityItem|Altar Key}}
** {{RarityItem|Bloodthirst}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}
** {{RarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Mutilated Carapace}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Bloodthirst|alias=Netherstone-Pommelled Bloodthirst}} – separates on pick-up into:
** {{MdRarityItem|Bloodthirst}}
** {{MdRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}


==Achievements==
==Achievements==
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* Orin's kidnapping and impersonation event during the quest [[Rescue Orin's Victim]] is not fully random; it appears to follow a priority system among the companions left in camp (that is, companions not in your active party), prioritizing companions that have the lowest approval with the player, from a list of 3 possible kidnapping victims: [[Lae'zel]], [[Gale]], and [[Halsin]] (or [[Minthara]]). She will not kidnap a romanced companion. If none of these companions are available, she instead kidnaps [[Yenna]].
* At launch, the player could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''', a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of [[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin, by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle. This seems to have been fixed since.{{verify}}
* At launch, the player could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''' (a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of {{SmallIcon|Bloodthirst Icon.png}}[[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin) by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle, but this appears to have been fixed. {{verify}}
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