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{{NoExcerpt|''For a comprehensive summary of the mechanics behind all rolls and modifiers, see: [[ | {{NoExcerpt|''For a comprehensive summary of the mechanics behind all rolls and modifiers, see: [[Die Rolls]]''}} | ||
{{Advantage}} and {{Disadvantage}} are gameplay | {{Advantage}} and {{Disadvantage}} are a gameplay mechanic that can greatly affect the success of dice rolls. They only apply to {{D20}} rolls: [[Attack Roll]]s, [[Saving Throw]]s, and [[Ability Check]]s. They never apply to [[Damage Roll]]s, though other features and effects can make a character re-roll damage dice in other ways. | ||
== Advantage == | == Advantage == | ||
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==Math== | ==Math== | ||
=== Chances of succeeding a specific roll=== | === Chances of succeeding a specific roll=== | ||
The benefits of rolling with advantage (or the detriments of rolling with disadvantage) change depending on the target number you need on the 1d20 roll to succeed. The bonus from advantage can be as large as 24-25% when needing a 9, 10, 11, 12, or 13 on the 1d20 roll, and as small as 9% if one needs to roll a 19. | The benefits of rolling with advantage (or the detriments of rolling with disadvantage) change depending on the target number you need on the 1d20 roll to succeed. The bonus from advantage can be as large as 24-25% when needing a 9, 10, 11, 12, or 13 on the 1d20 roll, and as small as 9% if one needs to roll a 19. | ||
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|8||65% ||87.75%||42.25% | |8||65% ||87.75%||42.25% | ||
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|9||60% ||84%|| | |9||60% ||84%|| 42.25% | ||
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|10||55%||79.75%||30.25% | |10||55%||79.75%||30.25% | ||
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=== Effects on the average of dice rolls === | ===Effects on the average of dice rolls=== | ||
A more general way of looking at advantage/disadvantage is calculating the effect on the average of dice rolls | A more general way of looking at advantage/disadvantage is calculating the effect on the average of dice rolls. This makes it more broadly applicable than looking at specific rolls and makes it easier to compare to other bonuses and penalties which may apply to a roll. | ||
For this we first need to clarify the notations used below: D{{math|n}} represents an {{math|n}}-sided die, {{math|P(i)}} is the probability that a variable has value {{math| | For this we first need to clarify the notations used below: D{{math|n}} represents an {{math|n}}-sided die, {{math|P(i)}} is the probability that a variable has value {{math|a}}, {{math|\mathbb{E} }} denotes the average or expected value of a roll, and {{math|1=\textstyle\sum_{i=a}^b x_i}} denotes the sum of a series of numbers {{math|x}} over an index {{math|i}} with {{math|i}} going from {{math|a}} through {{math|b}}. | ||
The formula to calculate the expected value, {{math|\mathbb{E}[x]}}, of a variable {{math|x}} is equal to the sum of every possible value of {{math|x}} multiplied by the chance for {{math|x}} to have that value. | The formula to calculate the expected value, {{math|\mathbb{E}[x]}}, of a variable {{math|x}} is equal to the sum of every possible value of {{math|x}} multiplied by the chance for {{math|x}} to have that value. | ||
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{{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \sum_{i=1}^n (i \cdot P(i))}} | {{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \sum_{i=1}^n (i \cdot P(i))}} | ||
For a regular dice roll the probability distribution is uniform, which means {{math|1=P(i) = 1/n}} for any {{math|i}}, and using {{math|1=\sum_{i=1}^n i = \frac{1}{2}n(n+1) }}, we get | For a regular dice roll the probability distribution is uniform, which means {{math|1=P(i) = 1/n}} for any {{math|i}}, and using {{math|1=\sum_{i=1}^n i = \frac{1}{2}n(n+1) }}, we get | ||
{{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \sum_{i=1}^n(i \cdot P(i)) = \frac{1}{n}\left(\frac{n(n+1)}{2}\right) = \frac{n+1}{2} }} | {{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \sum_{i=1}^n(i \cdot P(i)) = \frac{1}{n}\left(\frac{n(n+1)}{2}\right) = \frac{n+1}{2<nowiki>}</nowiki> }} | ||
For a dice roll with advantage the chance to roll the number {{math|i}} is equal to the chance that the first die rolls {{math|i}} multiplied by the chance that the second die rolls {{math|i}} or less, multiplied by 2 (because the 2 dice are interchangeable), minus the chance of both dice rolling {{math|i}} (because we counted that possibility twice by multiplying by 2). This gives | For a dice roll with advantage the chance to roll the number {{math|i}} is equal to the chance that the first die rolls {{math|i}} multiplied by the chance that the second die rolls {{math|i}} or less, multiplied by 2 (because the 2 dice are interchangeable), minus the chance of both dice rolling {{math|i}} (because we counted that possibility twice by multiplying by 2). This gives | ||
{{math_block|1=P_\text{adv}(i) = 2P(i)\sum_{j=1}^i P(j) - P(i)^2 = 2\frac{1}{n} \cdot \frac{i}{n} - \frac{1}{n^2} = \frac{2i - 1}{n^2} }} | {{math_block|1=P_\text{adv}(i) = 2P(i)\sum_{j=1}^i P(j) - P(i)^2 = 2\frac{1}{n} \cdot \frac{i}{n} - \frac{1}{n^2} = \frac{2i - 1}{n^2<nowiki>}</nowiki> }} | ||
Applying that to the formula of an average of a die D{{math|n}} we get | Applying that to the formula of an average of a die D{{math|n}} we get | ||
{{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] = \sum_{i=1}^n i \cdot\frac{2i - 1}{n^2} = \frac{2}{n^2} \cdot \sum_{i=1}^n i^2 - \frac{1}{n^2} \cdot \sum_{i=1}^n i}} | {{math_block|1=\mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] = \sum_{i=1}^n i \cdot\frac{2i - 1}{n^2} = \frac{2}{n^2} \cdot \sum_{i=1}^n i^2 - \frac{1}{n^2} \cdot \sum_{i=1}^n i}} | ||
Here we can use that the sum of squares is {{math|1=\sum_{i=1}^n i^2 = \frac{1}{6}n(n + 1)(2n + 1)}}, which gives | Here we can use that the sum of squares is {{math|1=\sum_{i=1}^n i^2 = \frac{1}{6}n(n + 1)(2n + 1)}}, which gives | ||
{{math_block|1= \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] = \frac{2}{n^2}\left(\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6}\right) - \frac{1}{n^2}\left(\frac{n(n+1)}{2}\right) = \frac{2n}{3} + 1 + \frac{1}{3n} - \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{2n} = \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{6n} }} | {{math_block|1= \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] = \frac{2}{n^2}\left(\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6}\right) - \frac{1}{n^2}\left(\frac{n(n+1)}{2}\right) = \frac{2n}{3} + 1 + \frac{1}{3n} - \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{2n} = \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{6n<nowiki>}</nowiki> }} | ||
To know what bonus having advantage gives to our roll, we calculate | To know what bonus having advantage gives to our roll, we calculate | ||
{{math_block|1= \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] - \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{6n} - \frac{n + 1}{2} = \frac{1}{6}\left(n - \frac{1}{n}\right) }} | {{math_block|1= \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n \text{ with advantage}] - \mathbb{E}[\text{D}n] = \frac{2n}{3} + \frac{1}{2} - \frac{1}{6n} - \frac{n + 1}{2} = \frac{1}{6}\left(n - \frac{1}{n}\right) }} | ||
When we apply this expression to a | When we apply this elegant expression to a D20 we get that '''having advantage is equivalent to an average bonus of +3.325'''. | ||
Because of symmetry, having disadvantage instead of advantage means we can simply make the permutation of {{math|\{1, \dots, n\} \to \{n, \dots, 1\} }} for the values of dice rolls and all the calculations will remain the same. Therefore the size of the bonus of advantage is equal to the size of the penalty of disadvantage. | Because of symmetry, having disadvantage instead of advantage means we can simply make the permutation of {{math|\{1, \dots, n\} \to \{n, \dots, 1\} }} for the values of dice rolls and all the calculations will remain the same. Therefore the size of the bonus of advantage is equal to the size of the penalty of disadvantage. | ||
== | ==Application: [[Savage Attacker]] == | ||
The Savage Attacker feat essentially gives advantage to melee damage rolls. | |||
We can use the result of the calculations above to see what the average bonus to our damage becomes, depending on what dice the weapon uses. | |||
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