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| title = Orin the Red | | title = Orin the Red | ||
| description = Orin the Red is one of the Chosen of the Absolute and the leader of the Bhaalites in the city of Baldur's Gate. | | description = Orin the Red is one of the {{FRWiki|Chosen}} of the Absolute and the leader of the Bhaalites in the city of Baldur's Gate. | ||
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| name = Orin the Red | | name = Orin the Red | ||
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| voice = Maggie Robertson | | voice = Maggie Robertson | ||
| titles = Deathbringer of Bhaal | | titles = Deathbringer of Bhaal | ||
| race = Changeling | | race = [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Changeling Changeling] | ||
| family = [[Bhaal]] (great-grandfather ''and'' grandfather)<br>[[Sarevok Anchev]] (grandfather ''and'' father)<br>[[Helena Anchev]] (mother ''and'' sister)<br>[[The Dark Urge]] (great-uncle/aunt ''and'' uncle/aunt) | | family = [[Bhaal]] (great-grandfather ''and'' grandfather)<br>[[Sarevok Anchev]] (grandfather ''and'' father)<br>[[Helena Anchev]] (mother ''and'' sister)<br>[[The Dark Urge]] (great-uncle/aunt ''and'' uncle/aunt) | ||
| level = 12 | | level = 12 | ||
| hometown = [[Temple of Bhaal]]<br>[[Baldur's Gate]] | | hometown = [[Temple of Bhaal]]<br>[[Baldur's Gate]] | ||
}} | }} | ||
'''Orin the Red''' is one of the | '''Orin the Red''' is one of the Chosen of the [[Absolute]], the enigmatic [[Cult of the Absolute|cult]] taking over the Sword Coast, and serves as one of the main antagonists in [[Baldur's Gate 3]]. | ||
A daughter of [[Bhaal]] and a devout practitioner in the arts of murder and pain, Orin has painted the streets red in her father's name for many years. Still to be caught thanks to her shapeshifting abilities, she now prepares to make out of Baldur's Gate the biggest bloody offering to her father yet. | A daughter of [[Bhaal]] and a devout practitioner in the arts of murder and pain, Orin has painted the streets red in her father's name for many years. Still to be caught thanks to her shapeshifting abilities, she now prepares to make out of Baldur's Gate the biggest bloody offering to her father yet. | ||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
===Background=== | ===Background=== | ||
Orin is the | Orin is the {{FRWiki|Chosen}} of [[Bhaal]] and one of the three masterminds leading the [[Cult of the Absolute]]. As such, she is one of the main antagonists of the game and a key objective in defeating the cult and the enigmatic [[Absolute]]. | ||
Hinted at first though notes, she is properly introduced at the end of Act 2 as one of the conspirators of the cult along with [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Enver Gortash]]. Through cunning and murderous devotion, she and her allies have established a solid Bhaalite foothold in the city of [[Baldur's Gate]]. Now, empowered by a [[Orin's Netherstone|netherstone]] and with cult's plans in motion, she intends to paint the city crimson with blood in a mighty offering to Bhaal. | Hinted at first though notes, she is properly introduced at the end of Act 2 as one of the conspirators of the cult along with [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Enver Gortash]]. Through cunning and murderous devotion, she and her allies have established a solid Bhaalite foothold in the city of [[Baldur's Gate]]. Now, empowered by a [[Orin's Netherstone|netherstone]] and with cult's plans in motion, she intends to paint the city crimson with blood in a mighty offering to Bhaal. | ||
===Gameplay=== | ===Gameplay=== | ||
* Orin is a level 12 [ | * Orin is a level 12 [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Changeling Changeling] boss and one of the main antagonists in the game | ||
* First mentioned in Act 1, she is introduced in Act 2, and properly encountered and fought in Act 3 | * First mentioned in Act 1, she is introduced in Act 2, and properly encountered and fought in Act 3 | ||
* Fighting her is required in order to obtain her Netherstone and proceed with the story | * Fighting her is required in order to obtain her Netherstone and proceed with the story | ||
* In combat, she uses her deadly powers given by Bhaal himself to deal large amounts of damage quickly while being supported by her cultists | * In combat, she uses her deadly powers given by Bhaal himself to deal large amounts of damage quickly while being supported by her cultists | ||
* Her encounter can go different ways depending on the choices made by the party and whether or not the player character is the Dark Urge | * Her encounter can go different ways depending on the choices made by the party and whether or not the player character is the Dark Urge. | ||
* A cease of hostilities with her and her Bhaalites can be brokered if agreed to slay Gortash first | * A cease of hostilities with her and her Bhaalites can be brokered if agreed to slay Gortash first | ||
* She can trick the party with her disguises and will kidnap someone important to the party | * She can trick the party with her disguises and will kidnap someone important to the party | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
===Bhaalite upbringing=== | ===Bhaalite upbringing=== | ||
Raised believing she was fathered by [[Bhaal]] himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between [[Sarevok Anchev]] and his daughter [[Helena Anchev]], intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.{{cite text|name=incest|A page from Sarevok's book|[[Sarevok Anchev]]}} Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's | Raised believing she was fathered by [[Bhaal]] himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between [[Sarevok Anchev]] and his daughter [[Helena Anchev]], intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.{{cite text|name=incest|A page from Sarevok's book|[[Sarevok Anchev]]}} Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's Chosen. | ||
When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.{{ref|[[Bhaal_Temple#The Chosen's Room|Orin's Chambers]], lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.<br>''"I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."''}} Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.{{ref|[[Murder Tribunal]], lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.<br>''"Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found ''exceptional''. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."''}}{{cite text|name=incest}} | When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.{{ref|[[Bhaal_Temple#The Chosen's Room|Orin's Chambers]], lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.<br>''"I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."''}} Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.{{ref|[[Murder Tribunal]], lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.<br>''"Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found ''exceptional''. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."''}}{{cite text|name=incest}} | ||
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It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an [[Illithid]] tadpole in them.{{ref|name=morphic|[[Morphic Pool]], lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.<br>"''You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."''}}{{cite text|Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda|Enver Gortash}} With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.{{cite text|Elder Brain Domination|[[Ketheric Thorm]]}} Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.{{cite text|Journal of Enver Gortash|Enver Gortash}} At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked [[Minthara]] into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert [[Minthara]] into a [[True Soul]]. | It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an [[Illithid]] tadpole in them.{{ref|name=morphic|[[Morphic Pool]], lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.<br>"''You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."''}}{{cite text|Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda|Enver Gortash}} With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.{{cite text|Elder Brain Domination|[[Ketheric Thorm]]}} Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.{{cite text|Journal of Enver Gortash|Enver Gortash}} At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked [[Minthara]] into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert [[Minthara]] into a [[True Soul]]. | ||
If the Urge | If the Dark Urge is not chosen as the player character, their corpse will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.{{note|This corpse uses the [[Dragonborn#White_Dragonborn|White Dragonborn]] form for [[The Dark Urge (origin)|the Dark Urge]], as seen as the in-game default choice for the [[Origin]] and in promotional footage for it.}} | ||
If picked as a player character, they are found by [[Kressa Bonedaughter]] instead, saved from death and held captive in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] for some time as she experiments on them,{{cite text|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)|[[Balthazar]]}} until they are shipped away on the [[Nautiloid]] during the [[Prologue]].{{cite text|Journal of Magthew Budj|[[Maghtew Budj]]}} | If the Dark Urge is picked as a player character, they are found by [[Kressa Bonedaughter]] instead, saved from death and held captive in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] for some time as she experiments on them,{{cite text|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)|[[Balthazar]]}} until they are shipped away on the [[Nautiloid]] during the [[Prologue]].{{cite text|Journal of Magthew Budj|[[Maghtew Budj]]}} | ||
== Involvement == | == Involvement == | ||
=== Act One === | === Act One === | ||
Though Orin is not present in the first act of the game, her involvement in the plot is alluded to when the [[Absolute]] attempts to take over the party's mind and they see a vision of her | Though Orin is not present in the first act of the game, her involvement in the plot is alluded to when the [[Absolute]] attempts to take over the party's mind and they see a vision of her Chosen shortly before being repelled by the [[Mysterious Artefact]]. The player character can also see a vision of her manipulating an enthralled [[Minthara]] when first meeting the latter in the [[Shattered Sanctum]]. | ||
=== Act Two === | === Act Two === | ||
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After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. If engaged by [[The Dark Urge]], she will reveal their relationship as siblings mockingly and taunt them. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her. | After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. If engaged by [[The Dark Urge]], she will reveal their relationship as siblings mockingly and taunt them. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her. | ||
Gortash may offer an alliance with the party if spoken to before confronting Orin. Tired of her theatrics and unreliability, Gortash will offer to join forces to subdue the Netherbrain for good and rule the [ | Gortash may offer an alliance with the party if spoken to before confronting Orin. Tired of her theatrics and unreliability, Gortash will offer to join forces to subdue the Netherbrain for good and rule the [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_Coast Sword Coast] together if the party slays Orin and brings her netherstone. In order to convince the party, he also reveals that their camp has been compromised by Orin who is masquerading as a party member.{{note|Although Gortash reveals this, the party is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the Lower City.}} If agreed to, Gortash proves to be true to his word if his conditions are fulfilled. | ||
Upon entering the [[Lower City]], Orin will kidnap a member of the party unbeknownst to the rest of the group. Who she kidnaps, when and how it's revealed depends largely on player relationships with their companions. Orin will confront the party and announce that she holds a hostage, demanding they deal with Gortash first and face her in a duel, winner takes all. This encounter initiates [[Rescue Orin's Victim]]. | Upon entering the [[Lower City]], Orin will kidnap a member of the party unbeknownst to the rest of the group. Who she kidnaps, when and how it's revealed depends largely on the player character's relationships with their companions. Orin will confront the party and announce that she holds a hostage, demanding they deal with Gortash first and face her in a duel, winner takes all. This encounter initiates [[Rescue Orin's Victim]]. | ||
In order to get Orin's netherstone, the group will need to visit the [[Murder Tribunal]] in the [[Undercity Ruins]] as the [[Temple of Bhaal]] is open only to those deemed worthy by Bhaal. At the tribunal, the party is welcomed by a familiar face, [[Sarevok Anchev]]. Sarevok will reveal how the Bhaalists survived the events of years prior, as well as his connection to Orin as her grandfather. If confronted by The Dark Urge, he further elaborates on Orin's involvement in their fall from Bhaal's grace, excited at the prospect of a Bhaalspawn duel in the ranks of the cult. He will require offer passage to the Temple of Bhaal if the party proves to be worthy by becoming an [[Cult of Bhaal#Unholy Assassins|Unholy Assassin]], which requires impressing the tribunal with a killing prior and then the sacrifice of a celestial being. Alternatively, the party can simply decide to fight Sarevok, a prospect he welcomes eagerly. Either given as a worthy Bhaalite or looted from Sarevok's corpse, with the [[Amulet of Bhaal]] in hand, the party can finally confront Orin. | In order to get Orin's netherstone, the group will need to visit the [[Murder Tribunal]] in the [[Undercity Ruins]] as the [[Temple of Bhaal]] is open only to those deemed worthy by Bhaal. At the tribunal, the party is welcomed by a familiar face, [[Sarevok Anchev]]. Sarevok will reveal how the Bhaalists survived the events of years prior, as well as his connection to Orin as her grandfather. If confronted by The Dark Urge, he further elaborates on Orin's involvement in their fall from Bhaal's grace, excited at the prospect of a Bhaalspawn duel in the ranks of the cult. He will require offer passage to the Temple of Bhaal if the party proves to be worthy by becoming an [[Cult of Bhaal#Unholy Assassins|Unholy Assassin]], which requires impressing the tribunal with a killing prior and then the sacrifice of a celestial being. Alternatively, the party can simply decide to fight Sarevok, a prospect he welcomes eagerly. Either given as a worthy Bhaalite or looted from Sarevok's corpse, with the [[Amulet of Bhaal]] in hand, the party can finally confront Orin. | ||
Orin will be found at the Altar of Bhaal, deep within the temple. There, she will be toying with her kidnapping victim surrounded by Bhaalist cultists. When approached, Orin will threaten to kill her hostage, though she can be convinced otherwise through dialogue. The Dark Urge can persuade her to duel them as is bhaalist tradition, to which she will eagerly agree. Alternatively, she | Orin will be found at the Altar of Bhaal, deep within the temple. There, she will be toying with her kidnapping victim surrounded by Bhaalist cultists. When approached, Orin will threaten to kill her hostage, though she can be convinced otherwise through dialogue. The Dark Urge can persuade her to duel them as is bhaalist tradition, to which she will eagerly agree. | ||
Alternatively, if the party used {{SAI|Speak with Dead}} on [[Helena Anchev|Helena Anchev's]] corpse they can discover that she betrayed Orin on [[Sarevok|Sarevok's]] orders. Revealing this to Orin causes her to completely lose focus on killing her kidnapping victim. If the party then choose dialogue options without ability checks, Orin will become enraged and call on Bhaal's power to transform into the [[Slayer]]. However, the party can also choose to taunt her further by succeeding a {{Ability Check|Deception|25}}, {{Ability Check|Persuasion|25}}, or {{Ability Check|Religion|25}}, which cause Orin to completely break down since she is unable to cope with the truth. [[Bhaal]] will then speak to her through the giant skull in the back of the room, commanding her to fight and unnaturally twisting her body to force her into the Slayer form. Regardless of the outcome of the conversation, Orin will attack when it concludes. | |||
Once defeated, the party is able too loot her corpse and find | Once defeated, the party is able too loot her corpse and find {{MdRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}. | ||
== Orin's shapeshifting == | == Orin's shapeshifting == | ||
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Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions. | Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions. | ||
These NPCs can also be 'saved' by not speaking to them until the party reaches Gortash at [[Wyrm's Rock]]. Once Gortash informs them that Orin has compromised their camp by shapeshifting into one of their companions, she will no longer attempt to impersonate any of the potential NPCs listed below. | |||
Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives, giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats. | Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives, giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats. | ||
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* {{MdRarityItem|A page from Sarevok's book}} | * {{MdRarityItem|A page from Sarevok's book}} | ||
* {{MdRarityItem|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)}} | * {{MdRarityItem|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)}} | ||
== Quotes == | |||
{{Q|Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose.|Orin the Red|align=center}} | |||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
{{notelist}} | {{notelist}} | ||
{{notebegin}} | {{notebegin}} | ||
* At launch, the | * At launch, the party could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''', a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of [[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin, by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle. This seems to have been fixed since. | ||
== References == | == References == | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
{{FRWiki|Orin|long}} | * {{FRWiki|Orin|long}} | ||
* {{FRWiki|Bhaal|long}} | |||
* {{FRWiki|Chosen|long}} | |||
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