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| description = This page focuses on Auntie Ethel's behaviour during her combat encounter, and strategy on overcoming her. Auntie Ethel can be encountered as a boss in Baldur's Gate 3.
| description = This page focuses on Auntie Ethel's behaviour during her combat encounter, and strategy on overcoming her. Auntie Ethel can be encountered as a boss in Baldur's Gate 3.
| image = Auntie Ethel.jpg
| image = Auntie Ethel.jpg
}}{{CharacterInfo
|title = Sister of the Seeing Pearl
|name = Auntie Ethel
|image = [[File:Auntie-Ethel-Hag.webp|350px]]
|imagename = True Form
|alt-name = Hag Model
|alt-image =[[File:Auntie Ethel Hag Model.png|150px]]
|alt-imagename = Hag Model
|STR=18|DEX=14|CON=16|INT=13|WIS=14|CHA=18
|str save=yes
|wis save=yes
|cha save=yes
|level= 5
|race=[[List_of_Creature_Types#Fey|Fey]]
|type=Fey
|HP=112; 145{{Tactician}}
|AC=17
|speed=9m / 30ft
|size=Medium
|weight=75kg / 150lbs
|proficiency=3
|initiative=+7
|passive={{PAS|Alert}} {{PAS|Darkvision (Passive Feature)|Darkvision}} {{PAS|Opportunity Attack}} {{PAS|Fey Life|Tarnished Charm|custom=Tarnished Charm Icon.png}}
|va = Rena Valeh
|location = [[Riverside Teahouse]] <br> [[Overgrown Tunnel]]
}}
}}
{{Spoiler warning|act=1}}{{Tab
{{Combat tab}}
|one=Auntie Ethel
{{Infobox creature
|one-name=Overview
| name = Auntie Ethel
|two=Auntie Ethel/Combat
| image = <gallery>
|two-name=Combat
Auntie-Ethel-Hag.webp|In-game
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Portrait Ethel.png|Portrait
This page focuses on '''Auntie Ethel'''<nowiki/>'s behavior during her combat encounter, and tactics for overcoming her. She can be fought as a boss in the [[Riverside Teahouse]] in the [[Sunlit Wetlands]] if you choose to meddle in her affairs.
</gallery>
Auntie-Ethel-Hag.webp
| size = Medium
| type = Fey
| race = [[Hag]]
| ac = 17
| e hp = 78
| hp = 112
| t hp = 145
| movement m = 9
| weight kg = 75
| level = 5
| str = 18
| dex = 14
| con = 16
| int = 13
| wis = 14
| cha = 18
| str save prof = yes
| wis save prof = yes
| cha save prof = yes
| extra init = 5
| h conditions = Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge
| passives = Alert, Darkvision, Fey Life @ Tarnished Charm, Opportunity Attack
| h passives = Alert, Darkvision, Fey Life @ Tarnished Charm, Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge, Opportunity Attack
}}
__NOTOC__
This page focuses on '''Auntie Ethel'''<nowiki/>'s behavior during her combat encounter, and tactics for overcoming her. She can be fought as a boss in the [[Riverside Teahouse]] in the [[Sunlit Wetlands]] if the party chooses to meddle in her affairs.


{{SpoilerBlur|Auntie Ethel can be encountered again as a boss in [[Act 3]] within [[The Blushing Mermaid]].}}
Auntie Ethel can also be encountered again as a boss in [[Act 3]] within [[The Blushing Mermaid]].


=Act One=
== Attacks and abilities ==
== Attacks and abilities ==
{{Feature box|name=Auntie's Trickery|image name=Generic Summon.webp|* This action creates five illusory copies of Auntie Ethel and shuffles them - and the original - around the arena.
{{Feature box|Auntie's Trickery}}
 
{{Feature box|A Coven of Hags}}


{{Recharge|Per Battle}}
{{Feature box|Damsel in Distress}}


{{Action|bonus}}}}{{Feature box|name=A Coven of Hags|image name=Generic Summon.webp|* This action creates between two and five copies of Auntie Ethel and randomizes their positions - including the original - around the arena.
{{Feature box|Ray of Sickness}}
* The real Auntie Ethel gains {{cond|Invisible}}.


{{Recharge|Per Battle}}
{{Feature box|Throw|item=Poisonous Slime Bomb}}


{{Action}}}}{{Feature box|name=Ray of Sickness|{{DamageInfo|3d8|Poison}}
{{Feature box|Throw|item=Flammable Slime Bomb}}


{{Cond|Poisoned}} 2 turns
{{Feature box|Vicious Mockery (Auntie Ethel)}}
*{{Saving throw|dc=15}} to avoid


{{Attack roll}}
{{Feature box|Claws (Hag)}}


{{Range|m=18|ft=60}}
{{Feature box|Hold Person}}


{{Action}}}}{{Feature box|name=Throw|* {{RarityItem|Poisonous Slime Bomb}} and {{RarityItem|Flammable Slime Bomb}}}}{{Feature box|name=Damsel in Distress|image name=Generic Summon.webp|* An illusion that confuses friend with foe, disguising Auntie Ethel as Mayrina and teleports them both to new spots around the arena.
{{Feature box|Break Illusion}}


{{Recharge|Per Battle}}
== Allies ==
* 2x [[Redcap (creature)|Redcap]] and 2x [[Redcap Blood Sage]] (if fought in her Teahouse)
* [[Mask of Regret]], [[Mask of Terror]], [[Mask of Servitude]], and [[Mask of Vengeance]] (if not previously killed/incapacitated in the Underground Passage)


{{Action}}}}{{Feature box|name=Vicious Mockery|image name=Vicious Mockery.webp|link=Vicious Mockery (Auntie Ethel)|{{DamageInfo|2d4|Psychic}}
== Encounter details ==


{{Saving throw|WIS|dc=15}} to negate.
=== Fight in the Teahouse ===
Ethel can be attacked in her human form in the Riverside Teahouse, though she will try to make this encounter as brief as possible. +7 Initiative gives her a high turn priority and prevents preemptive strikes. She will prioritize fleeing through her fireplace using Break Illusion in the first few turns, and will summon the 4 [[redcap]]s outside if the party did not already kill them. Sometimes, attempting to destroy her here requires bringing her hit points to zero before she can take a single action.  


{{Cond|Vicious Mockery}} 1 turn
She may further attempt to evade aggression by drinking a [[Potion of Invisibility]]; this can be thwarted by pickpocketing or purchasing it from her in conversation. Ethel may use [[scrolls]] in this phase, if they are part of her trader inventory. The player can greatly delay her flight and trap her upstairs by casting [[Arcane Lock]] on the staircase into her lair.


{{Range|m=26|ft=87}}
=== Fight in the Overgrown Tunnel ===
The first turns of the Auntie Ethel fight are pre-determined. Unless the player launches a preemptive strike while hidden, Auntie Ethel will initiate combat through dialogue when approached. Her first turn in combat, when started this way, will always be throwing a flammable slime bomb on [[Mayrina|Mayrina's]] suspended cage.


{{Action|bonus}}|alias=}}{{Feature box|name=Hold Person|{{Cond|Hold Person}}
If the player did not previously kill or incapacitate her Mask servants (e.g. [[Mask of Regret]]), she spends a turn summoning them to her side as allies. If they were already dealt with, she casts {{SAI|Auntie's Trickery}} instead.


{{Saving throw|WIS|dc=15}} to negate
Each clone of Auntie Ethel functions as a duplicate of the hag, having all of her magical abilities but lacking the bombs in her inventory. Each of them will be dispelled upon taking any amount of damage. Necessarily, they also cannot summon additional clones of themselves. If they are all defeated, Ethel can refresh their supply with {{SAI|A Coven of Hags}} - this time, however, the original hag will be invisible rather than in the mix of illusions, and the number of illusions summoned can vary. She will also eventually use [[Damsel in Distress]], a wily illusion where she teleports Mayrina into her proximity and adopts her appearance.


{{Action}}}}{{Feature box|name=Claws|link=Claws (Class Action)|image name=Generic Physical.webp|{{DamageInfo|2d4+4|Slashing}}
When not playing mind games, Ethel barrages the party with {{SAI|Ray of Sickness}}, traps them with {{SAI|Hold Person}}, and pelts them with her limited supply of poisonous slime bombs. She mixes in melee attacks and {{SAI|Vicious Mockery}} - two attacks she falls back on when out of grenades and spell slots.


{{Attack roll}}
==== Bargaining for Auntie Ethel's Hair ====
When brought down to 30 health or lower, when she takes her next turn, Auntie Ethel will bargain for her life in exchange for a piece of [[Auntie Ethel's Hair]]- a powerful buff that permanently increases one of a character's stats by 1. She will not do anything else on this turn; if the party declines her offer or fails a conversation ability check, the turn will immediately pass to the next character, allowing the hag to be rapidly dispatched. Any surviving Masks become docile upon her death.


{{Range|melee}}
'''Notes'''
* Auntie Ethel will only offer this deal if fought in the depths of her lair, not in the teahouse.
* She will be unable to bargain for her life if she is {{cond|silenced}}.
* On ''Honour Mode'' any attempt to cast a spell during this dialogue (such as {{SAI|Enhance Ability}}) can trigger her Honour Mode passive and cause the fight to resume, preventing the party from getting the Hag hair.


{{Action}}}}
=== Honour mode ===
<u>If aggroed in the teahouse</u>
Auntie Ethel gains [[Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge]] on [[Honour mode]], punishing the player for casting spells by multiplying Ethel's presence with more illusory copies. The legendary action can be triggered during the bargaining conversation, causing the conversation to exit as if the party had declined the offer.
*{{SAI|Protection from Evil and Good}}
*{{SAI|Break Illusion}}


== Tactics ==
== Tactics ==
It is very important to take out Ethel's illusory copies as quickly as possible. Since the illusions can cast {{SAI|Hold Person}}, it is entirely possible for them to end up paralyzing the entire party. {{SAI|Magic Missile}} is a particularly effective counter to them since it can hit many of the illusions at once and any amount of damage is enough to dispel them. When playing on Honour Mode, however, spell use is heavily punished, so area-of-effect weapons become quite important, along with party members dual-wielding hand crossbows for extra shots. A character with high movement speed (e.g. through {{SAI|Haste}} or {{SAI|Longstrider}}) with active {{SAI|Spirit Guardians}} will also make quick work of the clones without triggering [[Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge]] multiple times. Even a lowly void bulb will dispel the illusory copies if it catches them in its pull.
Ethel's copies can be distinguished from the original by selecting "Examine" on them and looking for the feature [[Fey Life]]. This is granted by an item that the real Auntie Ethel is wearing ([[Tarnished Charm]]) which is not duplicated for the clones, so they do not have this feature. Another way is to check Ethel's clothing : the real hag has red clothes, while the clones have blue clothes. And yet another method is to pay attention to the turn order- the real Ethel will always be in the same spot in the turn order.
Her illusory disguise as Mayrina also has many hints that reveal her true identity. Examining the two's statistics reveals key differences (such as the [[Fey Life]] feature once again) that can uncover the true victim. Alternatively, looking at the character models will reveal the truth since only the real Mayrina is pregnant.


=== Fight in the Teahouse ===
Auntie Ethel is also very vulnerable to being [[Silenced (Condition)|silenced]], since it limits her moveset to just melee attacks and grenades. Striking her with silencing weapons, such as the [[Sussur Dagger]] or [[Sussur Greatsword]], is the best way to inflict this condition since the main alternative, the spell {{SAI|Silence}}, can be easily walked out of. However, being {{cond|silenced}} will prevent Ethel from bargaining with the hag hair.
Ethel can be attacked in her human form in the [[Riverside Teahouse]], though she will try to make this encounter as brief as possible. [[Alert]] gives her a high chance of going first and prevents preemptive strikes, and she will flee through her fireplace using [[Break Illusion]] in the first two turns; if out of range, she will defend herself with [[Protection from Evil and Good]] and [[Vicious Mockery]]. Attempting to destroy her here, then, requires bringing her hit points to zero often before she can take a single action – all while hostile [[Redcap|Redcaps]] are coming through her front door.  
 
= Act Three =
{{Infobox creature
| name = Auntie Ethel (Act 3 stats)
| size = Medium
| type = Fey
| race = [[Hag]]
| ac = 17
| e hp = 78
| hp = 112
| t hp = 145
| movement m = 9
| weight kg = 90
| weight lb = 180
| level = 11
| proficiency bonus = +4
| initiative = +7
| str save prof = yes
| wis save prof = yes
| cha save prof = yes
| conditions = Lair Magic, Hag Pregnancy
| t conditions = Lair Magic, Fungal Resistance, Hag Pregnancy
| h conditions = Lair Magic, Fungal Resistance, Hag Pregnancy, Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge
| passives = Alert, Darkvision, Opportunity Attack, Fey Life @ Tarnished Charm
| h passives = Alert, Darkvision, Opportunity Attack, Fey Life @ Tarnished Charm, Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge
}}
 
Auntie Ethel is encountered once more in [[Act Three]]. She can be fought upstairs in [[The Blushing Mermaid]], where she is disguised as [[Captain Grisly]], or in [[The Blushing Mermaid - Basement|her lair in the bar's basement]].
 
== Attacks and Abilities ==
 
{{Feature box|Auntie's Trickery}}


Arcane lock work on fireplace???
{{Feature box|Ray of Sickness}}


She may further attempt to evade aggression by drinking a [[Potion of Invisibility]]; this can be thwarted by pickpocketing or purchasing it from her in conversation.
{{Feature box|Ethel's Insect Plague}}


=== Fight in the Overgrown Tunnel ===
== Allies ==
The first turns of the Auntie Ethel fight are deterministic. Unless the player launches a preemptive strike from {{Sai|Hide|Hiding}}, Auntie Ethel will initiate combat through dialogue when approaching in her lair. Her first turn in combat, when started this way, will always be {{Sai|Throw|Throwing}} a {{RarityItem|Flammable Slime Bomb}} on [[Mayrina|Mayrina's]] suspended cage.
* [[Grisly|Captain Grisly]], [[Mask of Terror (The Blushing Mermaid)]], [[Mask of Servitude (The Blushing Mermaid)]], and [[Mask of Vengeance (The Blushing Mermaid)]] (if not previously killed/incapacitated)


If the player had previously killed or incapacitated her Mask servants (i.e. [[Mask of Regret]]), she spends a turn summoning them to her side as allies. If they were already dealt with, she casts {{Sai|Auntie's Trickery}} instead. Following these opening moves, the midgame of the fight begins.
== Encounter details ==


==== Midgame tactics ====
Ethel's abilities and tactics are much the same, simply scaled-up with the levels, with several additional twists:
Each clone of Auntie Ethel summoned by {{Sai|Auntie's Trickery}} functions as a duplicate of the hag, having all of her magical abilities but lacking the bombs in her inventory and capable of being dispelled in a single blow. Necessarily, they also cannot summon additional clones of themselves. If they are all defeated, Ethel can refresh their supply with {{Sai|A Coven of Hags}} - this time, however, the original hag will be invisible rather than in the mix of illusions, and the number of illusions summoned can vary.


Next on the smorgasbord of trickery is {{Sai|Damsel in Distress}}, a wily illusion where she teleports Mayrina into her proximity and adopts her appearance. Distinguishing between the two requires a careful examination of the two's statistics, looking for key differences that reveal the true victim.
=== Pearlspore Bells ===
In order to truly kill Ethel, it's necessary to destroy her Pearlspore Bells. These lustrous mushroom clumps will revive the hag each time she is felled, if left unchecked. The Pearlspores will automatically heal to full at the end of each round, requiring them to either be burst down with massive damage in a single turn or for the party to employ heal prevention, e.g. [[Arrow of Ilmater|Arrows of Ilmater]]. Party members with the Sharpshooter feat should fire at the Pearlspores with the "Sharpshooter all-in" passive toggled on, as hitting is guaranteed and thus the extra damage will always be applied.


When not playing mind games, she barrages the party with poison damage via {{Sai|Ray of Sickness}} and her limited supply of {{RarityItem|Poisonous Slime Bomb|alias=Poisonous Slime Bombs}}. She mixes in melee {{Sai|Claws (Class Action)|Claws}} and the cantrip {{Sai|Vicious Mockery (Auntie Ethel)|Vicious Mockery}} - two attacks she falls back on when out of grenades and spell slots.
=== Hag Pregnancy ===
{{Hatnote|For full details, see [[Save Vanra]]}}
Ethel has eaten [[Vanra]], hoping to transform the girl into a hag to grow her coven. Killing Ethel kills Vanra as well, locking the party out of any quest rewards later on. To avoid this, it's possible to enable [[Toggle Non-Lethal Attacks|non-lethal attacks]] when dealing the killing blow, prompting instead a cutscene where Vanra is manually freed from an unconscious Ethel's belly. Alternatively, progressing through [[Help the Hag Survivors]] can provide the party with {{RarityItem|Hag's Bane}}, which when [[thrown]] will force Ethel to vomit the kid. Being pregnant does not imbue any inherent combat bonuses, other than the tension of potential quest failure. If released, Vanra will run into a corner of the room -- the party must thenceforth be cautious about stray area-of-effect damage nearby.  


==== Endgame ====
=== Invisible Copies ===
When brought down to 10% health or lower, when she takes her next turn, Auntie Ethel will bargain for her life in exchange for a piece of {{RarityItem|Auntie Ethel's Hair}}. She will not do anything else on this turn; if the party declines her offer or fails a conversation ability check, the turn will immediately pass to the next character, allowing the hag to be rapidly dispatched. Any surviving Masks become docile on her death.
After her first group of illusory copies has been summoned, any future groups that Ethel summons will also now be {{cond|Invisible}}, making their dispatch trickier and increasing the likelihood they will survive to deal extra damage. The straightforward way to deal with this is area-of-effect damage such as smokepowder bombs/arrows, void bulbs, alchemist's fire, etc. However an additional albeit cheesy technique involves activating the jump ability with a party member (preferably one with high strength and therefore more jump range), and moving the target cursor slowly across the floor: places where the cursor won't allow a jump but which are not otherwise obstructed indicate the presence of an invisible baddie.  


=== Honour mode ===
=== Haste Spores ===
Auntie Ethel gains {{SAI|Legendary Action: Weird Magic Surge}} on [[Honour mode]], punishing the player for casting spells by multiplying Ethel's presence with more illusory copies.
A minor but useful feature of Ethel's lair in Act 3 is the barrelstalk fungus on the upper platform (near a patch of smaller mushrooms). Standing directly adjacent to the barrelstalk will confer {{cond|Haste Spores}} on any party members who do so, allowing them an extra action per turn.


== Act Three ==
== Footnotes ==
new character box needed for act 3 stats?
{{Notebegin}}{{Reflist|note}}
{{Noteend}}

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