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== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==
== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==


== Permanently acquiring Shovel ==
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)


==Notes==


= Permanently acquiring Shovel =
[[https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)|Shovel]]
===Open Questions===
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?
===Needs Verification===
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).  
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).  
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*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.  
*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.  
*A character can temporarily respecc  for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.  
*A character can temporarily respecc  for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.  
===Warlocks===
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if they summons her from the scroll, use disguise self and talk to her again - seems redundant.
{| class="wikitable"
|+ current test results
|-
! summon from scroll !! talk to Shovel again !! result
|-
| Wyll || disguised Wyll || ✖
|-
| disguised Wyll || Wyll || ✔
|-
| Wyll || Wyll || ✔
|-
| Sorcerer || Wyll || ✖
|-
| Sorcerer || disguised Wyll || ✖
|-
| random other class || Wyll || ✔
|}
===Sorcerer===
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if he summons her from the scroll, disguises himself and talks to her again - that did not work consistently and needs further testing.
**Wyll -> disguised Wyll ✖
**disguised Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Random -> Wyll ✔
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> Wyll ✖
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> disguised Wyll ✖
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?

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