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To assume that "playing with tentacles" = sex, is just silly and feels like someone's headcanon more than anything. If you read the entire, completed journal entry for Open Your Scars, it is dripping with sarcasm and straight up mocks the Dark Urge at various points. | To assume that "playing with tentacles" = sex, is just silly and feels like someone's headcanon more than anything. If you read the entire, completed journal entry for Open Your Scars, it is dripping with sarcasm and straight up mocks the Dark Urge at various points. We do not know who the perspective of the journal is even from, and it previously refers to the Dark Urge as an "amnesiac carriage-crash-pile-up you." Its insults should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. | ||
In the actual conversation with the Elder Brain, it calls the Dark Urge the "disgraced master," "heir," "tyrant," and says that the Dark Urge "gave us everything - disappeared." There's simply no indication that the Elder Brain saw the Dark Urge as anything other than a worthy ally. | In the actual conversation with the Elder Brain, it calls the Dark Urge the "disgraced master," "heir," "tyrant," and says that the Dark Urge "gave us everything - disappeared." There's simply no indication that the Elder Brain saw the Dark Urge as anything other than a worthy ally. | ||
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The "Father will see us together again" line, to be clear, is in reference to the dream the Dark Urge has during a long rest scene that occurs after starting Act Three. In the dream, Sceleritas comes to the Dark Urge and says, "Dear sister must die by your hand, an offering in Bhaal's sanctum" and that the Dark Urge must become the last of their line. The seeing together line is a reference that Orin knows they must duel each other to the death to see who the lone heir is. | The "Father will see us together again" line, to be clear, is in reference to the dream the Dark Urge has during a long rest scene that occurs after starting Act Three. In the dream, Sceleritas comes to the Dark Urge and says, "Dear sister must die by your hand, an offering in Bhaal's sanctum" and that the Dark Urge must become the last of their line. The seeing together line is a reference that Orin knows they must duel each other to the death to see who the lone heir is. | ||
==== Additional Information Against Orin and the Dark Urge ==== | |||
If the Dark Urge goes to Sharess' Caress and speaks to Nym and Sorn Orlith, there is an option to say "You two look uncannily alike." The subsequent dialogue option for the Dark Urge specifically if they choose to have a three-way with the twins is "I suppose I haven't ticked incest off the moral atrocities to-do list yet." This would imply that they have not experienced this before. | |||
=== Substantiated Claims === | === Substantiated Claims === | ||
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:::: Quick edit – I do agree that nothing happened though, I just want to follow the standard protocol that's been used on here for months now. [[User:Willowisp|Willowisp]] ([[User talk:Willowisp|talk]]) 21:11, 5 October 2023 (CEST) | :::: Quick edit – I do agree that nothing happened though, I just want to follow the standard protocol that's been used on here for months now. [[User:Willowisp|Willowisp]] ([[User talk:Willowisp|talk]]) 21:11, 5 October 2023 (CEST) | ||
::::: I will say this...the reason I made the edit in the first place is because it caused a sizeable scuffle in the fandom due to the information being presented as 100% fact instead of the heavy interpretation that it is. If you would like to believe in that piece of headcanon, more power to you. But it's not objective. If you want to refer to the Open Your Scars journal entry...then the most objective method would be to quote it directly without the biased interpretation. Literally just say "The journal entry for Open Your Scars refers to the Dark Urge being 'good at playing with tentacles' in regards to the Elder Brain. However, the entries for that quest are not necessarily serious, and are open for interpretation." Then, people can decide if that means they actually had sex or not, instead of forcing that point of view on the reader. What is "obvious" and "definite" to you, in your interpretation, is not the case for others. I'm bowing out of this discussion now, but I will end with this - if you want BG3.wiki to be taken seriously as an accurate and unbiased source of information, allowing highly interpretive statements like this is not a great way to do that. [[User:Reve|Reve]] ([[User talk:Reve|talk]]) 23:19, 5 October 2023 (CEST) | |||