Talk:List of Bosses
Latest comment: 28 June by Capranaut in topic Criteria
Criteria[edit section]
Z'rell and Aelis seem questionable as bosses to me. They seem in line with Radija, Kressa, Haarlep, and the Warden Capranaut (talk) 19:56, 27 June 2026 (CEST)
- Z'rell has the boss tag so I think she should stay Loekman3 (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2026 (CEST)
- So are
S_HAV_Siege_W3_BossandS_HAV_Siege_W3_Boss_02(The Giant Shadow Creeper Vines if I'm reading it right) Capranaut (talk) 20:12, 27 June 2026 (CEST)
- So are
- Yes, this page needs well-defined criteria for inclusion, otherwise it will continue to expand until it includes every single fight in the game.
I especially disagree with adding Anders to this list; I honestly can't think of a less remarkable fight in the game.I was confusing Anders with Andorn, but my point still stands. - Some possible criteria:
- Characters with
IsBossflag: This is missing from some obvious bosses (Cazador, Gortash, Netherbrain) and is included on some random fodder (Shadow Creeper Vines). - Characters with
XPCategoryset toBoss: This is even more haphazardly set than theIsBossflag, but at least Gortash and the Netherbrain are considered bosses by this criteria. - Characters with
IsBossflag or theBossXPCategory: This could be a reasonable approach since the most "proper" boss fights will satisfy one of those criteria. Still excludes the Owlbear fight, though. - Characters with legendary actions: I think this is the best approach since I think it most accurately represents what Larian considers the bosses of their game to be. From the Honour mode description: "Stronger Bosses: The most dangerous foes in the Realms are more powerful in this mode, with new abilities and Legendary Actions". Hence, a character is a boss if and only if it has legendary actions in honour mode. This would exclude some reasonable entries like Commander Zhalk, but I still think it is the best approach.
- Characters with
- NtCarlson (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2026 (CEST)
- Just for reference, here is a table of how different characters would be classified under these criteria:
Character Current page IsBoss XPCategory Legendary actions Commander Zhalk Yes Yes Pack No Anders Yes No Combatant No Auntie Ethel Yes Yes Miniboss Yes Bernard Yes Yes Combatant Yes Bulette Yes No Combatant Yes W'wargaz Yes Yes Boss Yes Dror Ragzlin Yes Yes Combatant Yes Flind Yes No Combatant No Gekh Coal Yes Yes Combatant No Grym Yes Yes Boss Yes Sovereign Glut Yes Yes* Combatant No Gut Yes Yes Combatant No Kagha Yes No Miniboss No Minthara Yes Yes None No Nere Yes No Elite Yes Owlbear Yes No Combatant Yes Phase Spider Matriarch Yes Yes Boss Yes Baretha Yes No Combatant No Spectator Yes No Miniboss Yes Apostle of Myrkul Yes No Combatant Yes Balthazar Yes Yes Miniboss Yes Tska'an Yes Yes Combatant Yes Gerringothe Thorm Yes Yes Boss Yes Giant Shadow Creeper No Yes Combatant No Jaheira Yes Yes None No Kar'niss Yes Yes Elite Yes Ketheric Thorm Yes Yes Combatant Yes Malus Thorm Yes Yes Miniboss Yes Marcus Falgor Yes No Elite No Oliver Yes No Combatant Yes Lir'i'c Yes Yes Miniboss No Shadow-Cursed Shambling Mound Yes No Combatant Yes Thisobald Thorm Yes Yes Boss Yes Yurgir Yes No Combatant Yes Z'rell Yes Yes Combatant No Aelis Siryasius Yes No Combatant No Ansur Yes Yes Combatant Yes Cazador Yes No Boss Yes Har'rak Yes Yes Combatant Yes Dame Aylin Yes No Combatant Yes Dominated Red Dragon Yes Yes Combatant No Enver Gortash Yes No Boss Yes Lorroakan Yes No Combatant Yes Mystic Carrion Yes Yes Combatant Yes The Netherbrain Yes No Boss Yes Nine-Fingers Keene Yes No Miniboss No Orin Yes Yes Combatant Yes Ptaris Yes Yes Miniboss Yes Raphael Yes No Boss Yes Sarevok Anchev Yes Yes Miniboss Yes Steel Watcher Titan Yes No Elite Yes Viconia DeVir Yes No Miniboss Yes
- NtCarlson (talk) 23:57, 27 June 2026 (CEST)
- I removed the ones that don't have any of the three, and marked up the rest with superscript. I'm not suggesting we use that as a long term solution, it's just easier to see at a glance Capranaut (talk) 10:02, 28 June 2026 (CEST)
- NtCarlson (talk) 23:57, 27 June 2026 (CEST)