Talk:List of Bosses

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Criteria[edit section]

Z'rell and Aelis seem questionable as bosses to me. They seem in line with Radija, Kressa, Haarlep, and the Warden Capranaut (talk) 19:56, 27 June 2026 (CEST)Reply

Z'rell has the boss tag so I think she should stay Loekman3 (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2026 (CEST)Reply
So are S_HAV_Siege_W3_Boss https://bg3.norbyte.dev/search?q=name:S_HAV_Siege_W3_Boss and S_HAV_Siege_W3_Boss_02 https://bg3.norbyte.dev/search?q=name:S_HAV_Siege_W3_Boss_02 (The Giant Shadow Creeper Vines if I'm reading it right) Capranaut (talk) 20:12, 27 June 2026 (CEST)Reply
Yes, this page needs well-defined criteria for inclusion, otherwise it will continue to expand until it includes every single fight in the game. I especially disagree with adding Anders to this list; I honestly can't think of a less remarkable fight in the game. I was confusing Anders with Andorn, but my point still stands.
Some possible criteria:
  • Characters with IsBoss flag: This is missing from some obvious bosses (Cazador, Gortash, Netherbrain) and is included on some random fodder (Shadow Creeper Vines).
  • Characters with XPCategory set to Boss: This is even more haphazardly set than the IsBoss flag, but at least Gortash and the Netherbrain are considered bosses by this criteria.
  • Characters with IsBoss flag or the Boss XPCategory: This could be a reasonable approach since the most "proper" boss fights will satisfy one of those criteria. Still excludes the Owlbear fight, though.
  • Characters with legendary actions: I think this is the best approach since I think it most accurately represents what Larian considers the bosses of their game to be. From the Honour mode description: "Stronger Bosses: The most dangerous foes in the Realms are more powerful in this mode, with new abilities and Legendary Actions". Hence, a character is a boss if and only if it has legendary actions in honour mode. This would exclude some reasonable entries like Commander Zhalk, but I still think it is the best approach.
NtCarlson (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2026 (CEST)Reply
Just for reference, here is a table of how different characters would be classified under these criteria:
Character Current page IsBoss XPCategory Legendary actions
Commander Zhalk Yes Yes Pack No
Anders Yes No Combatant No
Auntie Ethel Yes Yes Miniboss Yes
Bernard Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Bulette Yes No Combatant Yes
W'wargaz Yes Yes Boss Yes
Dror Ragzlin Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Flind Yes No Combatant No
Gekh Coal Yes Yes Combatant No
Grym Yes Yes Boss Yes
Sovereign Glut Yes Yes* Combatant No
Gut Yes Yes Combatant No
Kagha Yes No Miniboss No
Minthara Yes Yes None No
Nere Yes No Elite Yes
Owlbear Yes No Combatant Yes
Phase Spider Matriarch Yes Yes Boss Yes
Baretha Yes No Combatant No
Spectator Yes No Miniboss Yes
Apostle of Myrkul Yes No Combatant Yes
Balthazar Yes Yes Miniboss Yes
Tska'an Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Gerringothe Thorm Yes Yes Boss Yes
Giant Shadow Creeper No Yes Combatant No
Jaheira Yes Yes None No
Kar'niss Yes Yes Elite Yes
Ketheric Thorm Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Malus Thorm Yes Yes Miniboss Yes
Marcus Falgor Yes No Elite No
Oliver Yes No Combatant Yes
Lir'i'c Yes Yes Miniboss No
Shadow-Cursed Shambling Mound Yes No Combatant Yes
Thisobald Thorm Yes Yes Boss Yes
Yurgir Yes No Combatant Yes
Z'rell Yes Yes Combatant No
Aelis Siryasius Yes No Combatant No
Ansur Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Cazador Yes No Boss Yes
Har'rak Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Dame Aylin Yes No Combatant Yes
Dominated Red Dragon Yes Yes Combatant No
Enver Gortash Yes No Boss Yes
Lorroakan Yes No Combatant Yes
Mystic Carrion Yes Yes Combatant Yes
The Netherbrain Yes No Boss Yes
Nine-Fingers Keene Yes No Miniboss No
Orin Yes Yes Combatant Yes
Ptaris Yes Yes Miniboss Yes
Raphael Yes No Boss Yes
Sarevok Anchev Yes Yes Miniboss Yes
Steel Watcher Titan Yes No Elite Yes
Viconia DeVir Yes No Miniboss Yes
NtCarlson (talk) 23:57, 27 June 2026 (CEST)Reply
I removed the ones that don't have any of the three, and marked up the rest with superscript. I'm not suggesting we use that as a long term solution, it's just easier to see at a glance Capranaut (talk) 10:02, 28 June 2026 (CEST)Reply