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{{Q|Go on. Drink, make it drank, be drunk. You and I both, to our good health.|Thisobald offering a drink to an adventurer.}} | |||
'''Thisobald Thorm''' is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the [[The Waning Moon]]. He is the son of [[Ketheric Thorm]]. | '''Thisobald Thorm''' is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the [[The Waning Moon]]. He is the son of [[Ketheric Thorm]]. | ||
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The party can speak with Thisobald at the Waning Moon to learn more about Ketheric's secrets. After drinking three times, Thisobald will start ranting. | The party can speak with Thisobald at the Waning Moon to learn more about Ketheric's secrets. After drinking three times, Thisobald will start ranting. | ||
When approached, the closest party member will sit down at the bar. '''Thisobald''' will tend the bar, and insist that the party member sitting at the bar drink with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he will immediately attack. After accepting, a variety of [[Ability Saves]] and [[Skill Checks]] must be | When approached, the closest party member will sit down at the bar. '''Thisobald''' will tend the bar, and insist that the party member sitting at the bar drink with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he will immediately attack. After accepting, a variety of [[Ability Saves]] and [[Skill Checks]] must be succeded. The ultimate goal is to "outdrink" him so he will burst through over-indulgence. | ||
There are three phases to each round of drinking, which are the Drinking phase, Story phase, and Questions phase. In the drinking phase, the party member can choose to either drink the brew and pass a [[Constitution]] [[Saving Throw]] or avoid drinking entirely by passing a [[Sleight of Hand]] check. If failing the Constituiton Saving Throw, the party member will immediately become drunk and have a [[Disadvantage]] on all the following saving throws. If failing the Sleight of Hand check, he will notice the fraud and become hostile. | There are three phases to each round of drinking, which are the Drinking phase, Story phase, and Questions phase. In the drinking phase, the party member can choose to either drink the brew and pass a [[Constitution]] [[Saving Throw]] or avoid drinking entirely by passing a [[Sleight of Hand]] check. If failing the Constituiton Saving Throw, the party member will immediately become drunk and have a [[Disadvantage]] on all the following saving throws. If failing the Sleight of Hand check, he will notice the fraud and become hostile. | ||
After successfully drinking (DC 14) or faking (DC 18), he will ask to tell a story, which is based on the events of | After successfully drinking (DC 14) or faking (DC 18), he will ask you to tell a story, which is based on the events of your journey up to this point. Each story requires a [[Performance]] check. Should you fail the Performance check, you will be given one final chance by Thisobald to weave a better story, this time using [[Deception]] (DC 18). Should you refuse to tell a story or fail the Deception check, he becomes hostile. | ||
If you succeed in either circumstance, you will be able to ask Thisobald several questions pertaining to himself and [[Ketheric Thorm]]. | |||
A second round of drinking begins, this time requiring [[Constitution]] (DC 16) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 18) to succeed. He will then request | A second round of drinking begins, this time requiring [[Constitution]] (DC 16) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 18) to succeed. He will then request that you tell him more stories, this time involving blood spill. Each of these require a [[Performance]] check, and you will very likely always have a great number to choose from depending on what major events you have encountered. The more you explored and completed, the more choices are available. | ||
The final round of drinking requires [[Constitution]] (DC 18) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 21) to succeed. There is no need to tell stories or ask questions. | The final round of drinking requires [[Constitution]] (DC 18) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 21) to succeed. There is no need to tell stories or ask questions. | ||
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{{Dialogue start}} | {{Dialogue start}} | ||
{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the first drink (not all listed):}} | {{dcond|The following stories can be told during the first drink (not all listed):}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' From aboard a [[Nautiloid|mind flayer vessel]], I've witnessed the Hells themselves. (DC 21)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I gazed upon nature's bounties in a [[Emerald Grove|verdant grove of druids]]. (DC 18)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I've seen the [[Goblin Camp|goblins' vile rituals]] with my own eyes. (DC 18)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Raphael|silver-tongued devil]] bade me feast in his [[House of Hope|lavishly appointed banquet hall. (DC 18)]]}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I ascended a [[Arcane Tower|great tower]] infused with the most powerful of magic. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I explored a [[Grymforge|lost fortress]] buried deep in the Underdark's bowels. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' [[Warlock|WARLOCK]] I made a deal with a creature of purest sin, and took its power as my own.}} | ||
** {{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the first drink}} | ** {{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the first drink}} | ||
** {{dopt|''' | ** {{dopt|'''Player:''' Who placed the curse on this land?}} | ||
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric created. Father Ketheric sustains. | *** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric created. Father Ketheric sustains. | ||
** {{dopt|''' | ** {{dopt|'''Player:''' How did you become... What you are now?}} | ||
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric's laughter. Not joy, not ever-never. Only laughter. | *** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric's laughter. Not joy, not ever-never. Only laughter. | ||
{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the second drink (not all listed):}} | {{dcond|The following stories can be told during the second drink (not all listed):}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I ripped apart winged [[Lesser Imp|Imps]] spawned from the fires of [[Avernus]]. (DC 21)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' An [[Owlbear|owlbear mother]] lunged at me. I slaughtered it in reply. (DC 18)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I conquered infamous [[hobgoblin]] [[Dror Ragzlin]] and his minions. (DC 18)}} | ||
* {{Dopt|''' | * {{Dopt|'''Player:''' I slayed a hideous, pustule-ridden [[Auntie Ethel|hag]]. She died a gruesome death. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I challenged a daunting [[Phase Spider]]. Its corpse is all that remains. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Bulette]] made me its prey, but proved no match for me. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Grym|towering creature]] rose from molten lava. I felled it with great wit and might. (DC 16)}} | ||
* {{dopt|''' | * {{dopt|'''Player:''' I bested an [[Ch'r'ai W'wargaz|inquisitor]] - a dreaded champion of the Lich Queen, [[Vlaakith]]. (DC 16)}} | ||
**{{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the second drink}} | **{{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the second drink}} | ||
** {{dopt|''' | ** {{dopt|'''Player:''' How do the Thorms sustain the shadows?}} | ||
*** '''Thisobald:''' The spirit of the land. | *** '''Thisobald:''' The spirit of the land. | ||
** {{dopt|''' | ** {{dopt|'''Player:''' What can you tell me about Ketheric?}} | ||
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father. Father is father. Eternal, invincible, forever, except '''not'''. | *** '''Thisobald:''' Father. Father is father. Eternal, invincible, forever, except '''not'''. | ||
** {{dopt|''' | ** {{dopt|'''Player:''' What do you mean? How can I defeat Ketheric?}} | ||
*** '''Thisobald:''' No. You must '''not''', can '''not''', will '''not''' mention '''[[Dame Aylin|her]]'''. The customer is always right, but also '''wrong'''. | *** '''Thisobald:''' No. You must '''not''', can '''not''', will '''not''' mention '''[[Dame Aylin|her]]'''. The customer is always right, but also '''wrong'''. | ||
{{dcond| | {{dcond|You will not need to tell another story after the third drink, and will not be able to ask more questions. Before his stomach bursts open, killing him, he will say one final thing, adding one more piece to the puzzle}} | ||
* '''Thisobald:''' I - I know you. I knew, I know, I am knowing. You want father's personal mysterious - (secret) - '''secret'''. No, not, never! Father said, ordered, commanded. Don't say it, don't say it! The cage. "Her" cage. Talk and... perish, die, buried. Buried in [[Grand Mausoleum|Thorm tomb]]. Father told me. I can't perish - no, nay, neither. Too strong, too... | * '''Thisobald:''' I - I know you. I knew, I know, I am knowing. You want father's personal mysterious - (secret) - '''secret'''. No, not, never! Father said, ordered, commanded. Don't say it, don't say it! The cage. "Her" cage. Talk and... perish, die, buried. Buried in [[Grand Mausoleum|Thorm tomb]]. Father told me. I can't perish - no, nay, neither. Too strong, too... | ||
** {{dact|end}} | ** {{dact|end}} | ||
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* Thisobald's kinship with [[Ketheric Thorm|Ketheric]] is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor {{Blur|Isobel}} ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. Given that Ketheric and [[Balthazar]] have desecrated the Thorm mausoleum and resurrected {{Blur|Isobel}}, it's possible that Thisobald is another resurrected relative and refers to Ketheric as father not in the familial sense, but as a religious leader or perhaps even "creator". | * Thisobald's kinship with [[Ketheric Thorm|Ketheric]] is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor {{Blur|Isobel}} ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. Given that Ketheric and [[Balthazar]] have desecrated the Thorm mausoleum and resurrected {{Blur|Isobel}}, it's possible that Thisobald is another resurrected relative and refers to Ketheric as father not in the familial sense, but as a religious leader or perhaps even "creator". | ||
* While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards. | * While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards. | ||
* It is sometimes possible to tell Thisobald that | * It is sometimes possible to tell Thisobald that you killed the [[Owlbear|mother owlbear]] even if you didn't. This line seems to also be available if you talked the owlbear down using [[Speak with Animals]] and it died later on its own. | ||
* Taking each opportunity to use [[Sleight of Hand]] to pretend to drink, and succeeding on all of them, grants [[Inspiration]] to a character with the [[Charlatan]] background. Defeating Thisobald through conversation options (whether actually drinking or not) grants Inspiration to a character with the [[Haunted One]] background.{{noteend}} | * Taking each opportunity to use [[Sleight of Hand]] to pretend to drink, and succeeding on all of them, grants [[Inspiration]] to a character with the [[Charlatan]] background. Defeating Thisobald through conversation options (whether actually drinking or not) grants Inspiration to a character with the [[Haunted One]] background.{{noteend}} | ||