Guide talk:Early Acquisition of Helldusk Armour

Raphael locations

I'm not editing this myself because it's marked as a user guide, but the information about the first encounter with Raphael is incomplete (and potentially includes erroneous information). I went down a 2h+ rabbit hole (and consulted with SlimX). The results are in Raphael#Encounter_Location Capranaut (talk) 00:16, 23 September 2025 (CEST)

If you can make the guide more accurate, please do so.

And thank you for asking first. Raelin (talk) 01:39, 23 September 2025 (CEST)

Parallel dialogue variant

For me Mysterious Artefact dialogue variant didn't work. Used artifact as not main Shadowheart and then swapped and attacked as main character - he teleported away. H0bbit (talk) 00:26, 8 November 2025 (CET)

I don't understand. Getting Raphael to teleport away the first step in the goal of early acquisition of the Helldusk Armour he carries. What is it you're having trouble with? Raelin (talk) 03:15, 8 November 2025 (CET)

Sorry, wasn’t specific enough. He teleported away at the second step in Camp. First variant with silencing him though worked well. H0bbit (talk) 08:58, 8 November 2025 (CET)

I added a note based on your observations. Thanks for pointing it out. If you're able to isolate any specifics on why the artefact method sometimes fails, that would be helpful. Raelin (talk) 20:40, 8 November 2025 (CET)

Thank you! To be even more specific, using Mysterious Artefact and swapping from that dialogue to another character and attacking Raphael still led to conversation with him and teleporting with him in Hell and back.

I made a bit of testing and tried to swap out of dialogue with Raphael and attack him with Shovel (familiar) - it worked in terms of damaging him (~3 hp per hit if not missed) and not interrupting his dialogue. But:

- this bugs the dialogue and screen of attacking character becomes empty without dialogue options and you cannot even leave it

- Karlach somehow is left out from dialogue with Raphael and can walk around, but cannot attack him like Shovel and cannot examine/pickpocket

I hadn't had enough patience to test can i kill/knock him that way and loot. H0bbit (talk) 10:10, 9 November 2025 (CET)

Thanks for the work you did. Personally, I've never tried the artefact method, and after your reported difficulties I'm not inclined to. I've been practicing for a honour mode run in tactician mode, so I'm lining up tactics and equipment for better chances of success.

Thanks again for your contributions. Raelin (talk) 20:59, 9 November 2025 (CET)