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* No. This grove is under my protection.
* No. This grove is under my protection.


If the party obeys, Minthara and the Goblin raiders will become allies while the tieflings and Wyll (if present) will become enemies. The new group will begin moving through the grove in sections clearing out all that remain. Return to Minthara after the battle and she tells the party she'll meet them at camp. Go to camp, and Minthara congratulates the party and rewards them with a gift from the Absolute - a True Soul tadpole. After the night ends, Minthara tells the party they must go to [[Moonrise Towers]] to find their place in the Absolute's Grand Design. She provides a [[Spider's Lyre]] and explains that a servant of hers can lead the party through the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] where the Tower is located. Then, she leaves, stating she is gathering the troops to meet the party at Moonrise. This starts [[Travel to Moonrise Towers]].
If the party obeys, Minthara and the Goblin raiders will become allies while the tieflings and Wyll (if present) will become enemies. The new group will begin moving through the grove in sections clearing out all that remain. Return to Minthara after the battle and she tells the party she'll meet them at camp. Go to camp, and Minthara congratulates the party and rewards them with a gift from the Absolute - a True Soul tadpole. After the night ends, Minthara tells the party they must go to [[Moonrise Towers]] to find their place in the Absolute's Grand Design. She provides a [[Spider's Lyre]] and explains that a servant of hers can lead the party through the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] where the Tower is located. (This instrument can also be stolen from her to that end via pickpocket, which currently results in a ''second'' one being generated should she later be recruited as a companion) Then, she leaves, stating she is gathering the troops to meet the party at Moonrise. This starts [[Travel to Moonrise Towers]].


Protecting the grove, has the tieflings act as allies. The surviving tieflings speak to the party and thank them for their help, then celebrate at camp. If [[Halsin]] is alive, he appears to congratulate the party and explains the strange movements occurring at Moonrise Towers. He tells the party the best shot at curing their tadpoles is going there, and offers to go with them.
Protecting the grove, has the tieflings act as allies. The surviving tieflings speak to the party and thank them for their help, then celebrate at camp. If [[Halsin]] is alive, he appears to congratulate the party and explains the strange movements occurring at Moonrise Towers. He tells the party the best shot at curing their tadpoles is going there, and offers to go with them.
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== Companion approval ==
== Companion approval ==
* Agree to help raid the Emerald Grove {{Approval|Wyll|-1}} {{Approval|Gale|-1}} {{Approval|Karlach|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|0}}{{Approval|Shadowheart|0}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}
* Agree to help raid the Emerald Grove {{Approval|Wyll|-1}} {{Approval|Gale|-5}} {{Approval|Karlach|-1}} {{Approval|Lae'zel|0}}{{Approval|Shadowheart|0}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}


== Consequences ==
== Consequences ==
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* All unfinished quests involving the Grove cannot be completed
* All unfinished quests involving the Grove cannot be completed


If the party brings the goblins to the Grove, but then sides with the Grove, then the story plays out similarly to if the party had defeated the goblin camp leaders. The only additional risk is that some of the tieflings die in the crossfire. Siding with the Grove results in Minthara being unavailable as a companion.
If the party brings the goblins to the Grove, but then sides with the Grove, then the story plays out similarly to if the party had defeated the goblin camp leaders. The only additional risk is that some of the tieflings die in the crossfire. Siding with the Grove results in Minthara being available as a companion in Act 2, as of patch 6.




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*[[Karlach]] and [[Wyll]] stay in the party (or can still be recruited if the character has not yet started Act 2 in the Shadowlands)
*[[Karlach]] and [[Wyll]] stay in the party (or can still be recruited if the character has not yet started Act 2 in the Shadowlands)
*[[Karlach]]'s Infernal Engine cannot be repaired
*[[Karlach]]'s Infernal Engine cannot be repaired
* Halsin is not available as a companion, and will ''spontaneously die'' in his last known location, even if previously saved from the Goblins
* [[Halsin]] is not available as a companion, and will ''spontaneously die'' in his last known location, even if previously saved from the Goblins
* [[Gale]] will stay in the party.
* [[Gale]] will stay in the party.
* [[Lift the Shadow Curse]] is not able to be completed in Act Two
* [[Lift the Shadow Curse]] is not able to be completed in Act Two
* Loss of many rare equipment items, as [[Dammon]] and [[Mattis]] are not alive to trade in Acts Two and Three
* Loss of many rare equipment items, such as the [[Armour of Persistence]] and [[Evasive Shoes]] as [[Dammon]] and [[Mattis]] are not alive to trade in Acts Two and Three
* Halsin, [[Arabella]], Dammon, and Zevlor are not available for [[Gather Your Allies]]
* [[Halsin]], [[Arabella]], [[Dammon]], and [[Zevlor]] are not available for [[Gather Your Allies]]
* [[Rolan]] will not be available for Gather Your Allies if he was convinced to stay and defend the Grove earlier
* [[Rolan]] will not be available for [[Gather Your Allies]] if he was convinced to stay and defend the Grove earlier
* All unfinished quests involving the Grove cannot be completed
* All unfinished quests involving the Grove cannot be completed
* Despite disobeying Minthara's orders, she ''will'' still be available as a companion in Act 2
* Despite disobeying [[Minthara]]'s orders, she ''will'' still be available as a companion in Act 2
* A specific bit of dialogue happens with the being in the Astral Prism, but all other characters appear to ignore the decision
* A specific bit of dialogue happens with the being in the [[Astral Prism]], but all other characters appear to ignore the decision




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