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== Walkthrough ==
== Walkthrough ==
=== A mother in distress ===
=== A mother in distress ===
Lora, a distressed mother, can be found in the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]], angrily shouting at a [[Flaming Fist]] {{Coords|155|-14}}. If "What is going on here?" is asked, then Lora explains that her daughter, [[Vanra]] has gone missing and the Flaming Fist said she had a lead. A successful [[Arcana]] check reveals that the Fist's memory has been magically tampered with, making her appear confused about why Lora is there at all. If "I'm listening" is chosen, followed by "I'll help you find your daughter," then Lora describes Vanra and states that she was last seen at [[The Blushing Mermaid]].
Lora, a distressed mother, can be found in the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]], angrily shouting at Blaze [[Liara Portyr]] {{Coords|155|-14}}. If "What is going on here?" is asked, then Lora explains that her daughter, [[Vanra]] has gone missing and the Flaming Fist said she had a lead. A successful [[Arcana]] check reveals that the Fist's memory has been magically tampered with, making her appear confused about why Lora is there at all. If "I'm listening" is chosen, followed by "I'll help you find your daughter," then Lora describes Vanra and states that she was last seen at [[The Blushing Mermaid]].


=== Locating the hag ===
=== Locating the hag ===
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[[File:Ethel Grizzly.jpg|thumb|Ethel reveals herself.]]
[[File:Ethel Grizzly.jpg|thumb|Ethel reveals herself.]]
Grisly's true identity can also be exposed by finding a note in the Blushing Mermaid which contains a [[Report on Old Garlow's|report on Old Garlow's]], using terms like "Auntie." The note is inside a rosewood desk in the same room as Grisly {{Coords|-123|-93}}. Afterwards, the party can confront Grisly on the note they found and she instantly drops the act.
Grisly's true identity can also be exposed by finding a note in the Blushing Mermaid which contains a [[Report on Old Garlow's|report on Old Garlow's]], using terms like "Auntie." The note is inside a rosewood desk in the same room as Grisly {{Coords|-123|-93}}. Alternatively, the party can find their way to the Hag's Basement, which looks like a Hag's Lair, and find the real Captain Grisly. Afterwards, the party can confront Grisly with the information they found and she instantly drops the act. The hag will also drop the act if the party attacks one of the [[Tipplesome Patron]]s at the top floor of The Blushing Mermaid.


=== Dealing with the hag ===
=== Dealing with the hag ===
After Ethel's identity has been revealed, she tells the party that she ate Vanra, and the girl sits in her belly, slowly transforming into a new hag. She tells the party that she would fight them, but she doesn't want to exert herself while she is "pregnant" - demanding they instead walk away and let her make a new hag. The party can tell her off, or tell her to make a better offer, or simply walk away as she asks.
After Ethel's identity has been revealed, she tells the party that she ate Vanra, and the girl sits in her belly, slowly transforming into a new hag. She tells the party that she would fight them, but she doesn't want to exert herself while she is "pregnant" - demanding they instead walk away and let her make a new hag. The party can tell her off, or tell her to make a better offer, or simply walk away as she asks.


If the party tells her off, she tells them not to mess with her and that Vanra will die if they do, while she will simply resurrect again. Then, she disappears to her lair and several bar patrons transform into hostile redcaps. Avoid killing any bystanders with AOE attacks during this fight, as this may trigger guards to join the fight against you. If the party agrees to walk away, Ethel disappears, but the bar does not turn hostile. If the party attempts to deal with Ethel by stating "make me an offer," then Ethel only deals with the party if they didn't kill her (or humiliate her by saving both Mayrina ''and'' getting [[Auntie Ethel's Hair]]) during [[Save Mayrina]]. Otherwise, she says they lost that privilege when they killed her.
If the party tells her off, she tells them not to mess with her and that Vanra will die if they do, while she will simply resurrect again. Then, she disappears to her lair and several bar patrons transform into hostile redcaps. Avoid killing any bystanders with AOE attacks during this fight, as this may trigger guards to join the fight against you. If the party agrees to walk away, Ethel disappears, but the bar does not turn hostile. If the party attempts to deal with Ethel by stating "make me an offer," then Ethel only deals with the party if they didn't kill her (or humiliate her by getting [[Auntie Ethel's Hair]]) during [[Save Mayrina]]. Otherwise, she says they lost that privilege when they killed her.


If the party killed Lora and agrees to stay out of Ethel's business, she agrees to fight alongside the party in the final battle and is added to [[Gather Your Allies]]. She also provides 6000 gold for "her favorite mommy-killer." She states that this deal is only in place if the party stays away and doesn't go after her.
If the party killed Lora and agrees to stay out of Ethel's business, she agrees to fight alongside the party in the final battle and is added to [[Gather Your Allies]]. She also provides 3000 gold for "her favorite mommy-killer." She states that this deal is only in place if the party stays away and doesn't go after her.


=== The Hag's Basement ===
=== The Hag's Basement ===
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* On a cliff in the northwestern corner of the room, north of the gilded chest {{Coords|-2351|-96}}
* On a cliff in the northwestern corner of the room, north of the gilded chest {{Coords|-2351|-96}}


Each of them has the "Healing Pearl" status and 55 HP.
Each of them has the "Healing Pearl" status and 55 HP on Balanced [[difficulty]] and 97 HP on Tactician difficulty, as well as [[Volatile Fungus]], and [[Fungal Resistance]].


==== Cutting out Vanra ====
==== Cutting out Vanra ====
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=== Saving Grisly ===
=== Saving Grisly ===
[[File:Grizzly Alive.jpg|thumb|Grisly will recount her experience with Ethel if she is saved.]]
[[File:Grizzly Alive.jpg|thumb|Grisly will recount her experience with Ethel if she is saved.]]
The same as her last hag den, Ethel has a number of enthralled humans trapped with their masks. Most of these individuals are too far gone to properly save, and will simply mutter about their curses if Ethel is slain. However, there is one person who is able to be properly saved from the hag - the real Captain Grisly. Grisly, like the other servants, is forced to attack the party if they fight with Ethel. However, if Grisly is left alive, then she is freed from Ethel's influence and removes her mask. Speaking to her, she is immensely grateful to the party for liberating her, and states that the 'Maid's as much as the party's home as hers.
The same as her last hag den, Ethel has a number of enthralled humans trapped with their masks. Most of these individuals are too far gone to properly save, and will simply mutter about their curses if Ethel is slain. However, there is one person who is able to be properly saved from the hag - the real Captain Grisly. Grisly, like the other servants, is forced to attack the party if they fight with Ethel.
 
However, if Grisly is left alive, then she is freed from Ethel's influence and removes her mask. This can be done by ignoring her during the combat or by knocking her out and taking a [[Resting#Long_Rest|Long Rest]] after defeating Ethel. Speaking to her when Ethel is dead, she is immensely grateful to the party for liberating her, and states that the 'Maid's as much as the party's home as hers.


== Quest rewards ==
== Quest rewards ==
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* As of 4.1.1.3686210, even if you non lethally knock out Grisly, she will not revive and the bartender will still think she is dead. It does not matter if you do it in the first room separately from the Ethel encounter or if Ethel summons her.   
* As of 4.1.1.3686210, even if you non lethally knock out Grisly, she will not revive and the bartender will still think she is dead. It does not matter if you do it in the first room separately from the Ethel encounter or if Ethel summons her.   
* Completing the quest without previously speaking to Lora (just following the hag survival group path) seems to lock the rewards (Lora does not give the rapier or the amulet - the amulet can be pickpocketed, but there is no weapon).
* Completing the quest without previously speaking to Lora (just following the hag survival group path) seems to lock the rewards (Lora does not give the rapier or the amulet - the amulet can be pickpocketed, but there is no weapon).
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