Talk:Deal with the Devil

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Latest comment: 21 June by Mimsy Borogove in topic Going to the House of Hope if the deal isn't taken
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Correction to Yurgir information[edit source]

Hello! The article states that Yurgir never joins the party if convinced to kill himself in chapter 2. I just accomplished this as a level 12 Bard with a DC 30 persuasion attempt, "Don't you want to join the winning side?" Yurgir joins and also offers his help in the final confrontation. I can go back and find the full conversation flow if that would be helpful in confirming, but I can 100% confirm that it is possible.

Going to the House of Hope if the deal isn't taken[edit source]

My understanding is that, if the player doesn't sign the deal with Raphael, then Kith'rak Voss will advise sneaking into the House of Hope to steal the Orphic Hammer, so whether you take the deal or not, you have reason to go to the House and fight Raphael. (I signed the contract in my playthrough, so this is gleaned from the "Free Orpheus" and "Orphic Hammer" articles). If this is true, then this article should make it clear that, whether you take the deal or not, you still get the Orphic Hammer and go to the House of Hope; signing the contract just changes when you get the hammer and why you're going to the House. — Mimsy Borogove (talk) 17:11, 21 June 2024 (CEST)Reply[reply]