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'''Decide Minthara's Fate''' is a quest available upon enterring [[Moonrise Towers]] in [[Chapter Two]], provided [[Minthara]] survived the previous chapter. It is ''not'' required for to have [[Raid the Grove|raided the Druid Grove]], but if the player knocked her out to progress [[Defeat the Goblins]], the game will continue as if she were dead.
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Successful completion unlocks Minthara as a possible companion.
'''Decide Minthara's Fate''' is a quest available upon entering [[Moonrise Towers]] in [[Act Two]], provided [[Minthara]] survived the previous act. It is ''not'' required to have [[Raid the Emerald Grove|raided the Druids' Grove]], if the party knocked her out she will be alive in Act 2.


[[File:Decide Minthara's Fate.png|thumb|Minthara is taken away to be killed... unless the party intervenes.]]
Successful completion unlocks Minthara as a possible companion.
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==Objectives==
==Objectives==
* Check on Minthara.
''Objectives and journal entries may vary pending player decisions and outcomes.''
** Nightwarden Minthara has been condemned to death. We ought to visit her while we can.
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<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.6;">Check on Minthara.</div>
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* Nightwarden Minthara has been condemned to death. We ought to visit her while we can.
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<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.6;">'''(Optional)''' Defeat the jailers.</div>
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* We've drawn the ire of Minthara's guards. We need to defeat them before we can aid her.
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<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.6;">'''(Optional)''' Talk to Minthara.</div>
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* We defeated Minthara's guards. We should talk to her.
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<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.6;">Bring Minthara outside Moonrise Towers.</div>
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* Minthara has asked for our help escaping Moonrise Towers. We'll have to escort her until we've put some distance between us and the forces of the Absolute stationed here.
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<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.6;">Quest Complete</div>
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* '''[Minthara escaped, joined camp]''' We helped Minthara escape Moonrise Towers. She went to our camp to recover from her ordeal.
* '''[Minthara escaped, left]''' We helped Minthara escape Moonrise Towers. She's elected to go her own way.
* '''[Minthara died]''' Minthara did not escape her fate at Moonrise, and she never will.
* '''[Minthara's mind was erased]''' Minthara's captors erased her free will completely. She is an obedient thrall, loyal to the Absolute, and without a personality of her own.
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==Walkthrough==
==Walkthrough==
When the player enters Moonrise Towers, if Minthara is still around they'll see her answering to [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Disciple Z'rell]]. Regardless of any successful checks, Minthara will ultimately be taken away to be judged and the fate of the goblins left in the player's hand. The journal will make note to check up on her.
===Reunions===
When the player enters Moonrise Towers, if Minthara is still around they'll see her answering to [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Disciple Z'rell]]. Regardless of any successful or unsuccessful checks, Minthara ultimately is taken away to be killed unless the party attacks. The journal makes note to check up on her. '''If the party does decide to attack''', a tough fight awaits as all NPCs of Moonrise turn hostile and [[Infiltrate Moonrise Towers]] becomes no longer possible, but Minthara fights with the party as an NPC. She must then be [[#The Great Escape|escorted out]], although talking a way past people won't be an option anymore.
 
===Speaking to the Inquisitors===
[[File:Minthara Being Erased.png|thumb|Minthara's mind being "erased" by Sumera and Jasin.]]
If the party avoided starting a mass fight, Minthara can then be found down some stairs and in the [[Moonrise Towers Prison]]; a quest marker notes her exact location. [[Sumera|Questioner Sumera]] and [[Jasin|Questioner Jasin]] attempt to break and erase her mind. They can be allowed to do so and bring the quest to an early close, be attacked, or Deceived ([[Difficulty Class|DC]] 10) or Intimidated (DC 14) to allow the party to step in and take over. Should the party choose to attack, closing the cell door may help avoiding drawing unwanted attention.


Minthara can then be found down some stairs and in the Moonrise Towers Prison; a quest marker notes her exact location. [[Questioner Sumera]] and [[Questioner Jasin]] attempting to break and erase her mind. You can attack them, or attempt an Intimidation (DC 14) or Deception (DC ?) Check to allow you to step in and take over, though they will not leave.
If they are attacked, Minthara assists in the fight as an NPC. After they're both down, Minthara asks to be escorted out of Moonrise. Her proposal can be agreed to, in which case [[#The Great Escape|continue to the next section]], or she can be told the party is just there to kill her themselves. Unsurprisingly, the latter leads to a fight.


In any case, Minthara is unable to talk as she battles the [[Absolute]] trying to possess her mind. Passing a DC 18 Wisdom roll will allow you to communicate with her and either:
===Talking to Minthara===
If the party stepped in and took over, Minthara is initially unable to talk as she battles [[The Absolute]], who is trying to possess her mind. Passing a DC 18 [[Wisdom]] check allows communication with her and either:


# Convince her to pretend her mind's broken.
# Convince her to pretend her mind's broken.
# Tell her to fight with you.
# Tell her to fight with the party.
# Erase her mind.
# Erase her mind.


Assuming you didn't erase her mind, Minthara will now join the party. If Sumera and Jasin are still here, a final Intimidation, Deception, or Persuasion (DC 18{{verify}}) Check will convince them to leave.
Assuming her mind wasn't erased, Minthara joins the party as follower / summon. If Minthara pretended her mind was broken, a final [[Intimidation]], [[Deception]], or [[Persuasion]] Check (DC 18) convinces Sumera and Jasin to leave. If Minthara's mind ''was'' erased, the check won't be necessary, and obviously the quest is over.
 
Failure of any check locks the party into either fighting or allowing Minthara's mind to be erased.
 
===The great escape===
From here, Minthara needs to be escorted out of Moonrise. It's possible to walk out with her, but it requires a selection of [[Intimidation]], [[Deception]], or [[Persuasion]] checks with:
 
* The guard just outside Minthara's cell (Intimidation DC 14, Deception DC 16, Persuasion DC 14)
* The two guards guarding the front door to Moonrise (DC 14 in all cases)
 
Alternatively, the party might try to avoid these encounters, such as with [[stealth]] or by casting [[Invisibility]] on Minthara. And as ever, anyone in the way can always be killed or knocked out.
 
If the prison guards are already dead but the Ironhand gnomes have not been freed yet, completing [[Rescue Wulbren]] and escaping by boat offers an escape route requiring to convince only one guard.
 
Once Minthara has left Moonrise Towers' boundaries, she can be spoken to and either told to go her own way or head to camp.
 
==Reward==
Aside from loot and combat XP, only successfully escorting Minthara out offers any reward.
 
;If Minthara was given's camp location
* 145 XP
* [[Minthara]] as a companion
* Characters with the [[Noble]] or [[Urchin]] background will gain inspiration, if Minthara is recruited on wrap up.


From here, you need to escort Minthara out of Moonrise. It's possible to just walk out, although you'll need to pass your choice of Intimidation/Deception/Persuasion (DC 14{{verify}}) Checks with:
;If Minthara escaped but went her own way
* 65 XP


* The guard just outside Minthara's cell.
==Notes==
* The two guards guarding the front door to Moonrise.
* If Minthara dies at any point during this quest, the quest completes and it is not possible to resurrect her.


Once Minthara has left Moonrise Tower's boundaries, you can begin conversation with her and either tell her to go her own way, join the party, or head to your camp.
==Bugs==
Minthara is bugged as of hotfix 7: If you avoided her in the Goblin's camp and freed her in the Moonrise towers prison she spoke only once after that. Later, it doesn't really matter in the camp or in the prison (in case, you want her to wait for you), she became silent. Including her in a party was possible only once in the camp (during the only conversation), then she became silent and it was not possible to exclude her for the party, to put light on her etc. Killing and resurrecting her does not work either: she is silent. - note- this can (potentially) be fixed by making her leave the party and rejoin and long resting.  
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