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{{Infobox creature
{{Infobox creature
| name = The Netherbrain
| name = The Netherbrain
| image =  
| image = Netherbrain Model.png
<gallery>
Netherbrain Illusion.webp|Image
Netherbrain Model.png|Model
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| full name = The Unbreakable Will of the Netherbrain
| full name = The Unbreakable Will of the Netherbrain
| va = [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4047315 Cissy Jones]<br>Various
| va = [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4047315 Cissy Jones],Various
| class =  
| class =  
| title =  
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== Attacks and abilities ==
== Attacks and abilities ==
{{Feature box|Orb of Negation}}
{{Feature box|Retributive Brainquake}}
{{Feature box|Retributive Brainquake}}
{{Feature box|Orb of Negation}}


=== Honour Mode ===
=== Honour Mode ===
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== Allies ==
== Allies ==
* [[Dominated Red Dragon]]
* {{CharLink|Dominated Red Dragon}}
* 4x [[Illithid Arcanist]]
* 4x {{CharLink|Illithid Arcanist}}
* 16x [[Tentacle]] (hidden under the brain's surface until approached)
* 16x {{CharLink|Tentacle}} (hidden under the brain's surface until approached)
* [[Nautiloid (Creature)]] (appears after a 4 turn countdown and begins summoning [[Mind Flayer]]s and [[Intellect Devourer]]s)
* {{CharLink|Nautiloid (Creature)}} (appears after a 4 turn countdown and begins summoning [[Mind Flayer]]s and [[Intellect Devourer]]s)


=== Conditional Allies ===
=== Conditional Allies ===
* [[The Emperor]] (if the player chose to free Orpheus)
* {{CharLink|The Emperor}} (if the player chose to free Orpheus)
* 4x [[Dream Guardian]] (if the player chose to free Orpheus)
* 4x {{CharLink|Dream Guardian}} (if the player chose to free Orpheus)
* 4x [[Countermeasure]] (if the player chose to trust the Emperor)
* 4x {{CharLink|Countermeasure}} (if the player chose to trust the Emperor)


== Encounter details ==
== Encounter details ==
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=== Inside the crown===
=== Inside the crown===
* It is strongly recommended to have the entire party near the portal before completing [[Karsus' Compulsion]]. Once the portal is opened, the final fight against the Netherbrain begins immediately and it must be defeated before it destroys all the platforms inside.
* It is strongly recommended to have the entire party near the portal before completing [[Karsus' Compulsion]]. Once the portal is opened, the final fight against the Netherbrain begins immediately and it must be defeated before it destroys all the platforms inside.
* While allies summoned through [[Gather Your Allies (Class Action)]] cannot enter the portal, they can be summoned onto the platforms inside.
* While allies summoned through {{SAI|Gather Your Allies (class action)|Gather Your Allies}} cannot enter the portal, they can be summoned onto the platforms inside.
* The Netherbrain will use {{SAI|Orb of Negation}} to summon several orbs which deal damage at the end of the next round and destroy the platforms beneath them, so it is important to move characters off of any marked platforms. These Orbs will disappear upon the brain's death.
* The Netherbrain will use {{SAI|Orb of Negation}} to summon several orbs which deal damage at the end of the next round and destroy the platforms beneath them, so it is important to move characters off of any marked platforms. These Orbs will disappear upon the brain's death.
* The Netherbrain must be killed quickly since every platform will be destroyed in only a couple of turns.
* The Netherbrain must be killed quickly since every platform will be destroyed in only a couple of turns.
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===Atop the brain===
===Atop the brain===
* {{SAI|Dimension Door}}, {{SAI|Arcane Gate}}, and {{SAI|Misty Step}} are all useful spells/scrolls for moving from the entrance [[Confront the Elder Brain#Atop the Netherbrain|Atop the Netherbrain]] to the Crown of Karsus. Otherwise, if intending to sprint past the tentacles hidden under the brain's surface, it is helpful to use a character who can avoid [[Opportunity Attack]]s, such as one with the [[Mobile]] feat.
* {{SAI|Dimension Door}}, {{SAI|Arcane Gate}}, and {{SAI|Misty Step}} are all useful spells/scrolls for moving from the entrance [[Confront the Elder Brain#Atop the Netherbrain|Atop the Netherbrain]] to the Crown of Karsus. Otherwise, if intending to sprint past the tentacles hidden under the brain's surface, it is helpful to use a character who can avoid [[Opportunity Attack]]s, such as one with the [[Mobile]] feat.
* {{SAI|Fly (Illithid Power)}} is incredibly strong in this fight. Both sections of the fight reward high mobility, since you need it to reach the crown and escape exploding platforms. A character with {{SAI|Fly (Illithid Power)}} can also quickly reach the Illithid Arcanists and kill them before they begin bombarding the party with their extra long range {{SAI|Magic Missile}}.
* {{SAI|Fly (Illithid Power)}} is incredibly strong in this fight. Both sections of the fight reward high mobility, since you need it to reach the crown and escape exploding platforms. A character with this ability can also quickly reach the Illithid Arcanists and kill them before they begin bombarding the party with their extra long range {{SAI|Magic Missile}}.
* {{SAI|Globe of Invulnerability}} and {{SAI|Sanctuary}} are useful for protecting the caster of [[Karsus' Compulsion]]. However, the nearby [[Illithid Arcanist]]s will still be able to {{cond|Stunned|stun}} creatures affected by these spells, which disrupts the spell prematurely.
* {{SAI|Globe of Invulnerability}} and {{SAI|Sanctuary}} are useful for protecting the caster of {{SAI|Karsus' Compulsion}}. However, the nearby [[Illithid Arcanist]]s will still be able to {{cond|Stunned|stun}} creatures affected by these spells, which disrupts the spell prematurely.
* The four [[Illithid Arcanist]]s are very dangerous enemies in this section of the fight. They can spam a more powerful version of {{SAI|Magic Missile}}, use {{SAI|Counterspell}}, stun your party via {{SAI|Tentacle Whip}} and {{SAI|Mind Blast}}, and even gain control of allies with {{SAI|Mind Flayer Domination}}. They are also immune to being pushed over the edge with moves like [[Telekinesis]], as they will just reappear atop the Netherbrain. Fortunately they have a rather low number of hit points, making them vulnerable to allies with high maneuverability and damage.  
* The four [[Illithid Arcanist]]s are very dangerous enemies in this section of the fight. They can spam a more powerful version of {{SAI|Magic Missile}}, use {{SAI|Counterspell}}, stun your party via {{SAI|Tentacle Whip}} and {{SAI|Mind Blast}}, and even gain control of allies with {{SAI|Mind Flayer Domination}}. They are also immune to being pushed over the edge with moves like [[Telekinesis]], as they will just reappear atop the Netherbrain. Fortunately they have a rather low number of hit points, making them vulnerable to allies with high maneuverability and damage.  
* While choosing to ally with the Emperor over Orpheus results in less total enemies during this fight, the [[Countermeasure]]s are far more dangerous than the [[Dream Guardian]]s. Some of them have powerful disruptive abilities such as {{SAI|Counterspell}}, {{SAI|Psionic Dominance}}, {{SAI|Goading Attack (Melee)}}, {{SAI|Slow}}, {{SAI|Black Hole}}, and {{SAI|Confusion}} which can severely hinder an unprepared party. Others have significantly more hit points (see [[Rage Queller]]) or deal far more damage through {{SAI|Improved Extra Attack}} and {{SAI|Action Surge}} (See [[Breaker of War]]).
* While choosing to ally with the Emperor over Orpheus results in less total enemies during this fight, the [[Countermeasure]]s are far more dangerous than the [[Dream Guardian]]s. Some of them have powerful disruptive abilities such as {{SAI|Counterspell}}, {{SAI|Psionic Dominance}}, {{SAI|Goading Attack (Melee)}}, {{SAI|Slow}}, {{SAI|Black Hole}}, and {{SAI|Confusion}} which can severely hinder an unprepared party. Others have significantly more hit points (see [[Rage Queller]]) or deal far more damage through {{SAI|Improved Extra Attack}} and {{SAI|Action Surge}} (See [[Breaker of War]]).
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* The first attack each round against the Brain will cause it to use {{SAI|Retributive Brainquake}}, which will damage and possibly {{cond|Slowed|Slow}} everything in range. The player can potentially avoid this the first time by triggering it with the first party member to enter the portal, and then having the rest of the team enter afterwards.
* The first attack each round against the Brain will cause it to use {{SAI|Retributive Brainquake}}, which will damage and possibly {{cond|Slowed|Slow}} everything in range. The player can potentially avoid this the first time by triggering it with the first party member to enter the portal, and then having the rest of the team enter afterwards.
* {{SAI|Dimension Door}} and {{SAI|Misty Step}} can help party members reach safe platforms if the ones they are on have been designated for destruction.
* {{SAI|Dimension Door}} and {{SAI|Misty Step}} can help party members reach safe platforms if the ones they are on have been designated for destruction.
* On ''Honour Mode'', the Netherbrain will augment itself with {{SAI|Aegis of the Absolute}}, making it immune to damage types that were used agains it on the previous turn. It is important to plan ahead exactly which attacks will be used against it so that the party doesn't miss entire turns where the brain is immune to all their attacks.
* On ''Honour Mode'', the Netherbrain will augment itself with {{SAI|Aegis of the Absolute}}, making it immune to damage types that were used against it on the previous turn. It is important to plan ahead exactly which attacks will be used against it so that the party doesn't miss entire turns where the brain is immune to all their attacks.


==Achievements==
==Achievements==

Latest revision as of 21:52, 7 October 2024

This page focuses on The Netherbrain's behavior during turn-based combat gameplay.

Attacks and abilities[edit | edit source]

Generic Explosion.webp
Orb of Negation Orb of Negation ()
The Grand Design cannot be disrupted - manifest an orb of Netherese arcana that explodes on its turn, obliterating everything within range.
 Range: 30 m /  ft
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Retributive Brainquake Retributive Brainquake ()
D6 Psychic.png 10d6 (10~60) Damage TypesPsychic
Upon first time that you take damage in a turn, emit a wave of psionic force that Mindbreaks Mindbreaks nearby enemies.
INT Save
 Range: 30 m / 90 ft

Honour Mode[edit | edit source]

Aegis of the Absolute.webp
Aegis of the Absolute Aegis of the Absolute
The Netherbrain can make itself Immune to all types of damage it took in a round of combat until the start of its next turn.
 Range: 18 m / 60 ft

Conditions[edit | edit source]

Allies[edit | edit source]

Conditional Allies[edit | edit source]

Encounter details[edit | edit source]

Atop the brain[edit | edit source]

  • The objective of the first phase is to make it to the Crown of Karsus and channel Karsus' Compulsion on it to enter the Netherbrain's psyche and defeat it for good.
  • Stepping directly on the brain's surface will summon up to 16 hidden tentacles, so it may be easier to approach from the two platforms on either side.
  • Once the party has reached the Crown of Karsus, the party member with Karsus' Compulsion must channel it in order to enter the final stage of the fight. The channelling lasts for 2 turns (the turn it was started and the following turn) and on the 3rd turn a portal will open to the Netherbrain's psyche (or The Unbreakable Will of the Netherbrain).
  • Only party members and either Orpheus or the Emperor can enter this portal, so once it has been opened there is no reason to continue fighting other enemies.
  • Once all party members and Orpheus/the Emperor have entered the portal, the battle outside on the surface of the brain will end and the remaining turn order will just consist of the party and the Netherbrain.

Inside the crown[edit | edit source]

  • It is strongly recommended to have the entire party near the portal before completing Karsus' Compulsion. Once the portal is opened, the final fight against the Netherbrain begins immediately and it must be defeated before it destroys all the platforms inside.
  • While allies summoned through Gather Your Allies Gather Your Allies cannot enter the portal, they can be summoned onto the platforms inside.
  • The Netherbrain will use Orb of Negation Orb of Negation to summon several orbs which deal damage at the end of the next round and destroy the platforms beneath them, so it is important to move characters off of any marked platforms. These Orbs will disappear upon the brain's death.
  • The Netherbrain must be killed quickly since every platform will be destroyed in only a couple of turns.

Tactics[edit | edit source]

Atop the brain[edit | edit source]

Inside the crown[edit | edit source]

  • Casting Feather Fall Feather Fall before entering the portal can allow melee range party members with low movement speed to immediately jump down to the brain and begin attacking it.
  • The first attack each round against the Brain will cause it to use Retributive Brainquake Retributive Brainquake, which will damage and possibly Slow Slow everything in range. The player can potentially avoid this the first time by triggering it with the first party member to enter the portal, and then having the rest of the team enter afterwards.
  • Dimension Door Dimension Door and Misty Step Misty Step can help party members reach safe platforms if the ones they are on have been designated for destruction.
  • On Honour Mode, the Netherbrain will augment itself with Aegis of the Absolute Aegis of the Absolute, making it immune to damage types that were used against it on the previous turn. It is important to plan ahead exactly which attacks will be used against it so that the party doesn't miss entire turns where the brain is immune to all their attacks.

Achievements[edit | edit source]

A-Hero of the Forgotten Realms.jpg

Hero of the Forgotten Realms
Save the day: kill the Netherbrain and destroy the Absolute tadpoles.


A-Absolute Power Corrupts.jpg

Absolute Power Corrupts
Reign with terror: take control of the Netherbrain and bend the world to your will.


A-Sins of the Father.jpg

Sins of the Father
Claim your Throne of Blood: take control of the Netherbrain for Bhaal and break the world.


Bugs[edit | edit source]

  • Thrown weapons that return to the user, such as Nyrulna or Returning Pike, may occasionally fall into the chasm below the Netherbrain and disappear forever after being thrown at it. Throwing builds should bring back-up weapons just in case.