Talk:List of features that work in Wild Shape

Reactions while in wild shape

I was testing to see what reactions work while wild shaped and I noticed the conditions for some of these reactions are:

not HasStatus('SG_Polymorph') or Tagged('MINDFLAYER') or HasStatus('SG_Disguise')

So they are disabled while just wild shaped, but if you are disguised and then wild shape they work. These conditions are used for a lot of reactions. The ones I tested are:

•  Cutting Words: Works
•  Warding Flare: Works
•  Guided Strike: Doesn't work
•  War God's Blessing: Works (why does this work when Guided Strike does not?)
•  Divine Strike: Works, but only with armed Myrmidons and there is no way to acquire this (level 7 Cleric) and myrmidon forms (level 10 druid) in normal gameplay
•  Reckless Attack: Works, but only applies to the armed Myrmidon forms
•  Tenacity: Works, but only applies to Air Myrmidon form
•  Deflect Missiles: Doesn't work
•  Counterspell: Doesn't work
•  Shield: Doesn't work
•  Divine Smite: Doesn't work

More testing is needed, but a bear bard who runs around in bear form taunting enemies with  Goading Roar and  Cutting Words just might work. NtCarlson (talk) 20:41, 11 June 2024 (CEST)

Oh wow, thanks for looking into the code there! I'm just testing by respeccing at Whithers and throwing myself at Mind Flayers + Flaming Fist so I definitely would've missed something as weird as disguising myself and then using Wild Shape. I'll try these out when I get a moment later today. Kind of interested to see whether this allows some of the Illithid reactions to work properly. Ankoria (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2024 (CEST)

Summarizing the results of our testing so far, here's how different reactions behave while simultaneously wild shaped and disguised:

Class features:

•  Cutting Words: Works
•  Warding Flare: Works
•  Improved Warding Flare: Works
•  Guided Strike: Doesn't work
•  War God's Blessing: Works (why does this work when Guided Strike does not?)
•  Wrath of the Storm: Works though the animation is bugged
•  Destructive Wrath: Doesn't seem to work? The reaction is not disabled, but nothing seems to trigger it including  Grounded Thunder Strike and  Electrified Flail
•  Reckless Attack: Works, but only applies to the armed Myrmidon forms
•  Projected Ward: Works
•  Deflect Missiles: Doesn't work
•  Riposte: Works even for unarmed wild shape forms. Can also be acquired through Martial Adept feat

Feats:

•  Sentinel: Vengeance: Explicitly coded to work with myrmidon forms normally. Using this approach, it can work with any wild shape, even unarmed ones.
•  Mage Slayer: Attack Caster: Interestingly, this one works while wild shaped normally, but if you are also disguised, it doesn't work. The condition is just not HasStatus('SG_Disguise').
•  War Caster: Opportunity Spell: Doesn't work, likely for the same reason no other spells work
•  Polearm Master: Opportunity Attack: No wild shape form has an applicable weapon. Water Myrmidon's trident doesn't count.

No reaction spells seem to work. This makes sense since every wildshape form applies BlockSpellCast(). I tested:

•  Counterspell: Doesn't work
•  Shield: Doesn't work
•  Divine Smite: Doesn't work
•  Hellish Rebuke: Doesn't work. The Fire Myrmidon has a built in variant that is not a spell. That one works of course.

Illithid powers:

•  Charm: Works
•  Luck of the Far Realms: Works
•  Psionic Backlash: Works
•  Psionic Dominance: Doesn't work. The enable condition is not HasStatus('SG_Polymorph') or Tagged('MINDFLAYER') instead

Misc:

•  Tenacity: Works, but only applies to Air Myrmidon form.

NtCarlson (talk) 23:14, 11 June 2024 (CEST)

Thanks, I added all of these. Would love to hear how  Divine Strike works in the code b/c it was really strange- I couldn't get it to work at all but then it suddenly worked in response to  Riposte from  Martial Adept. Ankoria (talk) 07:17, 12 June 2024 (CEST)