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| family = [[Ketheric Thorm]] (possible father)<br> [[Malus Thorm]] (possible uncle)<br> [[Gerringothe Thorm]]<br> [[Isobel Thorm]] (possible sister)
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| hometown = [[Reithwin Town]]
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{{SpoilerWarning|act=2}}{{Q|Go on. Drink, make it drank, be drunk. You and I both, to our good health.|Thisobald offering a drink to an adventurer.}}
'''Thisobald Thorm''' is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the [[The Waning Moon]]. He is the son of [[Ketheric Thorm]].


He stands near the bar in [[The Waning Moon]] and upon getting close a dialogue with him will automatically start. The currently played character will seat themselves at the bar and he will offer them a drink and ask them to tell a story.
'''Thisobald Thorm''' is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the [[The Waning Moon]]. He is the son of [[Ketheric Thorm]].{{ref|Thisobald's kinship with [[Ketheric Thorm|Ketheric]] is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor Isobel ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. Given that Ketheric and [[Balthazar]] have desecrated the Thorm mausoleum and resurrected Isobel, it's possible that Thisobald is another resurrected relative and refers to Ketheric as father not in the familial sense, but as a religious leader or perhaps even "creator".}}


==Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic==
{{DiQ|Go on. Drink, make it drank, be drunk. You and I both, to our good health.|Thisobald Thorm| offering a drink to an adventurer.}}
{{hatnote|Main article: [[Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic]]}}
The party can speak with Thisobald at the Waning Moon to learn more about Ketheric's secrets. After drinking three times, Thisobald will start ranting.


When approached, the closest party member will sit down at the bar. '''Thisobald''' will tend the bar, and insist that you drink with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he will immediately attack. Should you accept, you must succeed on a variety of [[Ability Saves]] and [[Skill Checks]]. The ultimate goal is to "outdrink" him so he may perhaps burst through over-indulgence.
== Involvement ==
Thisobald stands near the bar in [[The Waning Moon]]. When approached, the closest party member will sit down at the bar. '''Thisobald''' will tend the bar, and insist that the party member sitting at the bar drink with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he will immediately attack. After accepting, a variety of [[Ability Saves]] and [[Skill Checks]] must be succeeded. The ultimate goal is to "outdrink" him so he will burst through over-indulgence.{{ref|While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards.}}


There are three phases to each round of drinking, which is the Drinking phase, the Story phase and the Questions phase. While drinking, you can choose to either drink the brew by passing a [[Constitution]] [[Saving Throw]], or to avoid drinking entirely by using [[Sleight of Hand]]. Should you fail a [[Constitution]] [[Saving Throw]] if you choose to drink, you will immediately become drunk, and have [[Disadvantage]] on all the following saving throws, which is not ideal for this interaction if you do not wish to, or are not prepared for a fight. If you choose to use [[Sleight of Hand]], the consequences for failure, however, are more dire, as he will notice you are not drinking, and will attack.
Taking each opportunity to use [[Sleight of Hand]] to pretend to drink, and succeeding on all of them, grants [[Inspiration]] to a character with the [[Charlatan]] background. Defeating Thisobald through conversation options (whether actually drinking or not) grants Inspiration to a character with the [[Haunted One]] background.


After successfully drinking, he will then ask you to tell a story, which is based on what actions you have taken up to this point. Each story requires a [[Performance]] skill check. Should you fail a [[Performance]] check to tell a story, you will be given one final chance by Thisobald to weave a better story, this time using [[Deception]]. Should you fail again, he becomes hostile.
=== Drinking with Thisobald===


If you succeed in either circumstance, you will be able to ask Thisobald several questions pertaining to himself, and [[Ketheric Thorm]].
There are three phases to each round of drinking, which are the Drinking phase, Story phase, and Questions phase. In the drinking phase, the party member can choose to either drink the brew and pass a [[Constitution]] [[Saving Throw]] or avoid drinking entirely by passing a [[Sleight of Hand]] check. If failing the Constituiton Saving Throw, the party member will immediately become drunk and have a [[Disadvantage]] on all the following saving throws. If failing the Sleight of Hand check, he will notice the fraud and become hostile.
 
After successfully drinking (DC 14) or faking (DC 18), he will ask to tell a story, which is based on the events of the party's journey up to this point. Each story requires a [[Performance]] check. After failing the Performance check, there will one final chance by Thisobald to weave a better story, this time using [[Deception]] (DC 18). Refusing to tell a story or failing the Deception check results in Thisobald becoming hostile.
 
Succeeding in either circumstance, it will be possible to ask Thisobald several questions pertaining to himself and [[Ketheric Thorm]].
 
A second round of drinking begins, this time requiring [[Constitution]] (DC 16) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 18) to succeed. He will then request to tell him more stories, this time involving blood spill. Each of these stories require a [[Performance]] check. The more the party explored and completed, the more choices are available.
 
The final round of drinking requires [[Constitution]] (DC 18) or [[Sleight of Hand]] (DC 21) to succeed. There is no need to tell stories or ask questions. {{ref|It is sometimes possible to tell Thisobald that the party killed the [[Owlbear|Mother Owlbear]] even if you didn't. This line seems to also be available if you talked the owlbear down using [[Speak with Animals]] and it died later on its own.}}


After drinking, or faking it, he will then request that you tell him a story. Each of these require Performance skill checks, and you will very likely always have a great number to choose from depending on what major events you have encountered. Some examples are the following, and often come from the events of [[Act One]]. The more you explored and completed in the previous Act, the more choices are available.
{{Dialogue start}}
{{Dialogue start}}
{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the first drink (Not all listed)}}
{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the first drink (not all listed):}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' From aboard a [[Nautiloid|mind flayer vessel]], I witnessed the Hells themselves.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' From aboard a [[Nautiloid|mind flayer vessel]], I've witnessed the Hells themselves. (DC 21)}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' I gazed upon nature's bounties in a [[Emerald Grove|verdant grove of druids]].}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I gazed upon nature's bounties in a [[Emerald Grove|verdant grove of druids]]. (DC 18)}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' I've seen the [[Goblin Camp|goblins' vile rituals]] with my own eyes.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I've seen the [[Goblin Camp|goblins' vile rituals]] with my own eyes. (DC 18)}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Raphael|silver-tongued devil]] bade me feast in his [[House of Hope|lavishly appointed banquet hall.]]}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' A [[Raphael|silver-tongued devil]] bade me feast in his [[House of Hope|lavishly appointed banquet hall. (DC 18)]]}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' I ascended a [[Arcane Tower|great tower]] infused with the most powerful of magic.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I ascended a [[Arcane Tower|great tower]] infused with the most powerful of magic. (DC 16)}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' I explored a [[Grymforge|lost fortress]] buried deep in the Underdark's bowels.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I explored a [[Grymforge|lost fortress]] buried deep in the Underdark's bowels. (DC 16)}}
* {{dopt|'''Player:''' <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Warlock|WARLOCK]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> I made a deal with a creature of purest sin, and took its power as my own.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' [[Warlock|WARLOCK]] I made a deal with a creature of purest sin, and took its power as my own.}}
* {{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the first drink}}
** {{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the first drink}}
** {{dopt|'''Player:''' Who placed the curse on this land?}}  
** {{dopt|'''Party member:''' Who placed the curse on this land?}}  
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric created. Father Ketheric sustains.
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric created. Father Ketheric sustains.
** {{dopt|'''Player:''' How did you become... What you are now?}}  
** {{dopt|'''Party member:''' How did you become... What you are now?}}  
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric's laughter. Not joy, not ever-never. Only laughter.
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father Ketheric's laughter. Not joy, not ever-never. Only laughter.
***{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the second drink (Not all listed)}}
 
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' I ripped apart winged [[Lesser Imp|Imps]] spawned from the fires of [[Avernus]].}}
{{dcond|The following stories can be told during the second drink (not all listed):}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' An [[Owlbear|owlbear mother]] lunged at me. I slaughtered it in reply.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I ripped apart winged [[Lesser Imp|Imps]] spawned from the fires of [[Avernus]]. (DC 21)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' I conquered infamous [[hobgoblin]] [[Dror Ragzlin]] and his minions.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' An [[Owlbear|owlbear mother]] lunged at me. I slaughtered it in reply. (DC 18)}}
**** {{Dopt|'''Player:''' I slayed a hideous, pustule-ridden [[hag]]. She died a gruesome death.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I conquered infamous [[hobgoblin]] [[Dror Ragzlin]] and his minions. (DC 18)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' I challenged a daunting [[Phase Spider]]. Its corpse is all that remains.}}
* {{Dopt|'''Party member:''' I slayed a hideous, pustule-ridden [[Auntie Ethel|hag]]. She died a gruesome death. (DC 16)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Bulette]] made me its prey, but proved no match for me.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I challenged a daunting [[Phase Spider]]. Its corpse is all that remains. (DC 16)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' A [[Grym|towering creature]] rose from molten lava. I felled it with great wit and might.}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' A [[Bulette]] made me its prey, but proved no match for me. (DC 16)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' I bested an [[Ch'r'ai W'wargaz|inquisitor]] - a dreaded champion of the Lich Queen, [[Vlaakith]].}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' A [[Grym|towering creature]] rose from molten lava. I felled it with great wit and might. (DC 16)}}
****{{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the second drink}}
* {{dopt|'''Party member:''' I bested an [[Ch'r'ai W'wargaz|inquisitor]] - a dreaded champion of the Lich Queen, [[Vlaakith]]. (DC 16)}}
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' How do the Thorms sustain the shadows?}}  
**{{dcond|He reveals the following Information on the second drink}}
***** '''Thisobald:''' The spirit of the land.
** {{dopt|'''Party member:''' How do the Thorms sustain the shadows?}}  
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' What can you tell me about Ketheric?}}  
*** '''Thisobald:''' The spirit of the land.
***** '''Thisobald:''' Father. Father is father. Eternal, invincible, forever, except '''not'''.
** {{dopt|'''Party member:''' What can you tell me about Ketheric?}}  
**** {{dopt|'''Player:''' What do you mean? How can I defeat Ketheric?}}  
*** '''Thisobald:''' Father. Father is father. Eternal, invincible, forever, except '''not'''.
***** '''Thisobald:''' No. You must '''not''', can '''not''', will '''not''' mention '''[[Dame Aylin{{!}}her]]'''. The customer is always right, but also '''wrong'''.
** {{dopt|'''Party member:''' What do you mean? How can I defeat Ketheric?}}  
***** {{dcond|Once you complete the third drink, you will not need to tell another story, and will not be able to ask more questions. Before his stomach bursts open, killing him, he will say one final thing, adding one more piece to the puzzle}}
*** '''Thisobald:''' No. You must '''not''', can '''not''', will '''not''' mention '''[[Dame Aylin|her]]'''. The customer is always right, but also '''wrong'''.
****** '''Thisobald:''' I - I know you. I knew, I know, I am knowing. You want father's personal mysterious - (secret) - '''secret'''. No, not, never! Talk and... perish, die, buried. Buried in [[Grand Mausoleum|Thorm tomb]]. Father told me. I can't perish - no, nay, neither. Too strong, too...
 
****** {{dact|end}}
{{dcond|There is no need to tell another story after the third drink, and there won't be any questions to ask anymore. Before his stomach bursts open, killing him, he will say one final thing, adding one more piece to the puzzle}}
* '''Thisobald:''' I - I know you. I knew, I know, I am knowing. You want father's personal mysterious - (secret) - '''secret'''. No, not, never! Father said, ordered, commanded. Don't say it, don't say it! The cage. "Her" cage. Talk and... perish, die, buried. Buried in [[Grand Mausoleum|Thorm tomb]]. Father told me. I can't perish - no, nay, neither. Too strong, too...
** {{dact|end}}
{{Dialogue end}}
{{Dialogue end}}


== Loot ==
== Combat ==
{{Main|Thisobald Thorm/Combat}}
=== Loot ===
Thisobald will drop several bottles of alcohol and some alchemical ingredients.
Thisobald will drop several bottles of alcohol and some alchemical ingredients.
* {{MdRarityItem|Worn Key}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Worn Key}}
==Gallery==
<gallery heights="200px">
Thisobald Thorm.png|Dead
Thisobald Model.png|Model
Nikolai-chugunov-thisobald-thorm-nikolai-chugunov-4as.jpg|Render by Nikolai Chugunov
Nikolai-chugunov-thisobald-thorm-nikolai-chugunov-6.jpg|Render by Nikolai Chugunov
</gallery>


== Related literature ==
== Related literature ==
* {{SmItemIcon|The Waning Moon: Consignments}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Record of Shipment}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Research Notes (Waning Moon)}}
* {{MdRarityItem|The Waning Moon: Consignments}}


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
{{notebegin}}
{{notebegin}}
* Thisobald's kinship with [[Ketheric Thorm|Ketheric]] is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor {{Blur|Isobel}} ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. Given that Ketheric and [[Balthazar]] have desecrated the Thorm mausoleum and resurrected {{Blur|Isobel}}, it's possible that Thisobald is another resurrected relative and refers to Ketheric as father not in the familial sense, but as a religious leader or perhaps even "creator".
{{reflist}}
* While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards.
{{noteend}}
{{noteend}}
==Gallery==
<gallery heights="200px">
Thisobald Thorm.png|Dead
</gallery>


== External links ==
== External links ==
* {{FRWiki|Thisobald Thorm|long}}
* {{FRWiki|Thisobald Thorm|long}}


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Revision as of 14:16, 11 September 2024

Overview Combat

Thisobald Thorm is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the The Waning Moon. He is the son of Ketheric Thorm.[1]

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“
Go on. Drink, make it drank, be drunk. You and I both, to our good health.
 „
— Thisobald Thorm offering a drink to an adventurer.

Involvement

Thisobald stands near the bar in The Waning Moon. When approached, the closest party member will sit down at the bar. Thisobald will tend the bar, and insist that the party member sitting at the bar drink with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he will immediately attack. After accepting, a variety of Ability Saves and Skill Checks must be succeeded. The ultimate goal is to "outdrink" him so he will burst through over-indulgence.[2]

Taking each opportunity to use Sleight of Hand to pretend to drink, and succeeding on all of them, grants Inspiration to a character with the Charlatan background. Defeating Thisobald through conversation options (whether actually drinking or not) grants Inspiration to a character with the Haunted One background.

Drinking with Thisobald

There are three phases to each round of drinking, which are the Drinking phase, Story phase, and Questions phase. In the drinking phase, the party member can choose to either drink the brew and pass a Constitution Saving Throw or avoid drinking entirely by passing a Sleight of Hand check. If failing the Constituiton Saving Throw, the party member will immediately become drunk and have a Disadvantage on all the following saving throws. If failing the Sleight of Hand check, he will notice the fraud and become hostile.

After successfully drinking (DC 14) or faking (DC 18), he will ask to tell a story, which is based on the events of the party's journey up to this point. Each story requires a Performance check. After failing the Performance check, there will one final chance by Thisobald to weave a better story, this time using Deception (DC 18). Refusing to tell a story or failing the Deception check results in Thisobald becoming hostile.

Succeeding in either circumstance, it will be possible to ask Thisobald several questions pertaining to himself and Ketheric Thorm.

A second round of drinking begins, this time requiring Constitution (DC 16) or Sleight of Hand (DC 18) to succeed. He will then request to tell him more stories, this time involving blood spill. Each of these stories require a Performance check. The more the party explored and completed, the more choices are available.

The final round of drinking requires Constitution (DC 18) or Sleight of Hand (DC 21) to succeed. There is no need to tell stories or ask questions. [3]

(The following stories can be told during the first drink (not all listed):)
  • Party member: From aboard a mind flayer vessel, I've witnessed the Hells themselves. (DC 21)
  • Party member: I gazed upon nature's bounties in a verdant grove of druids. (DC 18)
  • Party member: I've seen the goblins' vile rituals with my own eyes. (DC 18)
  • Party member: A silver-tongued devil bade me feast in his lavishly appointed banquet hall. (DC 18)
  • Party member: I ascended a great tower infused with the most powerful of magic. (DC 16)
  • Party member: I explored a lost fortress buried deep in the Underdark's bowels. (DC 16)
  • Party member: WARLOCK I made a deal with a creature of purest sin, and took its power as my own.
    • (He reveals the following Information on the first drink)
    • Party member: Who placed the curse on this land?
      • Thisobald: Father Ketheric created. Father Ketheric sustains.
    • Party member: How did you become... What you are now?
      • Thisobald: Father Ketheric's laughter. Not joy, not ever-never. Only laughter.
(The following stories can be told during the second drink (not all listed):)
  • Party member: I ripped apart winged Imps spawned from the fires of Avernus. (DC 21)
  • Party member: An owlbear mother lunged at me. I slaughtered it in reply. (DC 18)
  • Party member: I conquered infamous hobgoblin Dror Ragzlin and his minions. (DC 18)
  • Party member: I slayed a hideous, pustule-ridden hag. She died a gruesome death. (DC 16)
  • Party member: I challenged a daunting Phase Spider. Its corpse is all that remains. (DC 16)
  • Party member: A Bulette made me its prey, but proved no match for me. (DC 16)
  • Party member: A towering creature rose from molten lava. I felled it with great wit and might. (DC 16)
  • Party member: I bested an inquisitor - a dreaded champion of the Lich Queen, Vlaakith. (DC 16)
    • (He reveals the following Information on the second drink)
    • Party member: How do the Thorms sustain the shadows?
      • Thisobald: The spirit of the land.
    • Party member: What can you tell me about Ketheric?
      • Thisobald: Father. Father is father. Eternal, invincible, forever, except not.
    • Party member: What do you mean? How can I defeat Ketheric?
      • Thisobald: No. You must not, can not, will not mention her. The customer is always right, but also wrong.
(There is no need to tell another story after the third drink, and there won't be any questions to ask anymore. Before his stomach bursts open, killing him, he will say one final thing, adding one more piece to the puzzle)
  • Thisobald: I - I know you. I knew, I know, I am knowing. You want father's personal mysterious - (secret) - secret. No, not, never! Father said, ordered, commanded. Don't say it, don't say it! The cage. "Her" cage. Talk and... perish, die, buried. Buried in Thorm tomb. Father told me. I can't perish - no, nay, neither. Too strong, too...
    • (End of dialogue)

Combat

Main article: Thisobald Thorm/Combat

Loot

Thisobald will drop several bottles of alcohol and some alchemical ingredients.

Gallery

  • Dead

    Dead

  • Model

    Model

  • Render by Nikolai Chugunov

    Render by Nikolai Chugunov

  • Render by Nikolai Chugunov

    Render by Nikolai Chugunov

Related literature

Notes

  1. ↑ Thisobald's kinship with Ketheric is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor Isobel ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. Given that Ketheric and Balthazar have desecrated the Thorm mausoleum and resurrected Isobel, it's possible that Thisobald is another resurrected relative and refers to Ketheric as father not in the familial sense, but as a religious leader or perhaps even "creator".
  2. ↑ While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards.
  3. ↑ It is sometimes possible to tell Thisobald that the party killed the Mother Owlbear even if you didn't. This line seems to also be available if you talked the owlbear down using Speak with Animals and it died later on its own.

External links

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