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Minthara/Romance

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Minthara can be romanced. The following sections explain Minthara's romance-specific storyline.

StoryLine[edit | edit source]

Act One[edit | edit source]

If the party agree with Minthara's attack on the Emerald Grove and successfully raid the grove raid the grove, the player character can meet her at the party in camp, where she offers a night of sex. Should the player character accept, the two meet later that night at the campsite altar.

After sex, the player character wakes up with a naked Minthara in their arms. They can then choose to use their illithid powers to probe her mind, which she disapproves of. Or, if the player character is The Dark Urge origin, they can choose to give in to the urge and kill her - granting the player character her Mind Flayer tadpole.

If the player character chooses to have sex with Minthara and holds the Mysterious Artefact, afterward Minthara admits she did not feel the presence of the Absolute and confesses she felt strangely comfortable in her moments free from it.

Later in the night, as long as Minthara is still alive and regardless of whether or not the player character chose to have sex with her, Minthara confesses she has been ordered to kill the player character, who can then attempt to dissuade Minthara from this. If successful, Minthara recommends they not go to the Goblin Camp again due to them having the same orders to kill the player character. She bids farewell until they meet again. Minthara may also say that the Absolute had initially given orders for the player character to be killed but, if confronted, explains the Absolute spoke to her and asked her to spare the player character in order for them to prove themselves by going to Moonrise Towers.

Act Two / Three[edit | edit source]

A picture on Minthara at Camp. She is uneasy and uncertain about her standing with the player character, and beseeches them to allow her to read their thoughts.
Minthara, uneasy and uncertain about her standing with the player character, beseeches them to allow her to read their thoughts.

If saved with certain choices during Decide Minthara's Fate Decide Minthara's Fate, Minthara joins the party and a formal partner track can begin. After being saved, Minthara says that despite being under the influence of the Absolute (during Act One), her desire to spend the night with them was her own. She can agree that she and the player may do so again in the future, but this conversation does not lead to the start of a romance.

For the romance to begin, approval of at least 31 is necessary. As soon as this threshold is reached, Minthara prompts a dialogue at camp immediately prior to the next long rest. At the start of the conversation, Minthara prods the player character's mind, then apologizes for it.[1] She then confesses she was not expecting to meet someone who would understand her.[2]

To start the romance, after opening their mind to her, the player character can imagine Minthara as "a lover", and end the conversation with, "There's nothing I want more" or "That would be a good life".

However, if choosing to see her as "an ally", "a friend" or "a survivor", it is still possible to start romancing her, choosing the line "I want you too" in response to her stating "I want all of you". The only option here which irrevocably ruins the possibility of starting a romance is imagining Minthara as a "monster".

Romance with Minthara formally begins once she promises to spend nights with the player character from now on. However, there are no romantic or sexual cutscenes provided for this. In addition, unlike other companions, there appear to be no options where the player character can choose to end a romance with Minthara (at any stage) directly via conversation. Other events may cause her to break the romance herself, such as the player character accepting Mizora's invitation for a night of lustful pleasure, or progressing romance with another companion to a committed stage, assuming it has not already moved to this point with her. However, the player character cannot directly end a romance with Minthara themselves; unlike other romanceable characters, there is no such dialogue option.

As the romantic partnership with Minthara can only be started comparatively late in the game, she may consider the player character to be in a firm relationship with her immediately after the dialog in camp described above. Hence, the partnered stage with her may start automatically, omitting the flirting stage.[3] Also, if the player character has already partnered with another companion, this is the point where they may change to romancing Minthara instead.

Though the player character might ask and hear her out about joining the cult of the Absolute and her opinion about Ketheric Thorm Ketheric Thorm, these conversations do not push the relationship further; romance with Minthara can only be advanced upon entering Act Three and reaching Rivington.

From the beginning of Act Three, if Minthara's approval rate is high enough and the partnered stage of relationship with the player character has been enabled, regular dialogues with her start featuring the option "Can I kiss you?". Minthara's response is always the same: "I am yours. Come to me." Choosing it activates kissing cutscenes, provided for the drow in several variations, as with other companions.

Afterwards, Minthara can react with one of the following phrases, chosen randomly:

  • "Thank you."
  • "I could lose myself in you."
  • "You give me courage."
  • "You are exquisite."
  • "What a wonderful distraction you are."
  • "I have never needed anyone. But I want you."
  • "Enough. We still have a war to fight."

The option to share a kiss can be chosen as often as desired. However, there is a 1 in 100 chance that after sharing a kiss with Minthara, the player character becomes poisoned and acquires one of the following conditions:

A unique dialogue with her then follows. She apologizes about the player character feeling somewhat wrong after kissing her, and she explains that the reason might be a slight trace of poison which remained on her lips. If deciding to pursue the theme, Minthara explains that she is using various toxins to train her body in enduring them. The scene neither brings any approval, nor does it have any impact on the relationship with her, though it helps understanding Minthara's personality and motivations better.

In Rivington, in the Circus of the Last Days, the player character can take the love test offered by the dryad Zethino Zethino with Minthara. Her response is positive if two or more questions are answered correctly. Unless partnered with Minthara, she only agrees to undertake the test with the player character if her approval is 50 or higher with them.

As with some other companions, Minthara has some answers that are considered correct for the purposes of the test, but might earn her disapproval (see her approval page):

  • 1st question: Only the answer about "killing her siblings" is considered wrong
  • 2nd question: All answers are considered correct, though some might bring disapproval
  • 3rd question: Only the answer "Being captured by the Absolute" is considered correct

When entering the closed part of the Undercity Ruis at X: -140 Y: 934 for the first time, Minthara prompts a dialogue with the player character with an exclamation sign. She declares that she sees having a chance to take revenge over Orin Orin as a gift from the player character, and intends to stay with them until Orin is dealt with. The player character may then propose to preserve their bond afterwards. Minthara's answer depends on the her current level of approval with the player character.

  • Approval ≥40. Minthara confesses that she believes their bond to be "alurlssrin" - an intranslatable term in drow language, describing the deepest bonds of trust and love. If the player character is a Drow Drow themselves (any subrace), they understand the meaning; otherwise they can ask Minthara back about it as soon as they leave the area of restricted fast travel.
  • Approval <40. Minthara says that she sees their relationship as no more than "ssinssrigg" - fast to ignite, bright, but with no strings attached for the future.

If the player character suggests to get sooner to their task to be done instead of deepening the romance (two dialogue options possible), Minthara reacts dryly, hiding her disappointment, but does not break the relationship.

Romancing Other Characters[edit | edit source]

Minthara's demeanor towards her partner is highly possessive; she resents any attempts to invite someone else into the relationship - in most cases threatening to mutilate or even kill the suitor.

  • Romancing Halsin Halsin - In Act Three, with high enough approval, Halsin may approach the player character and express sexual interest with them, offering to share them with Minthara, but only if she approves. The player character then has the option to decline his advances, approach the drow with this proposition, or simply break things off with her for Halsin instead.
Currently (as of game version 4.1.1.6072089, Patch 7) there are no options to actually discuss the issue with Minthara, and there are no dialogue lines regarding Halsin provided for her as a distinct romance partner.
  • Romancing Mizora Mizora - When triggered in Act Three, Mizora acknowledges the player character's relationship with Minthara but still proposes to have a lustfully fulfilled night with them. If accepting her offer, the love scene triggers as normal. However, the following morning, Minthara expresses utter resentment with the player character's choice and, regardless of dialogue options chosen, breaks the relationship.
  • Romancing Sorn Orlith Sorn Orlith/Nym Orlith Nym Orlith - When approached in Sharess' Caress in Act Three while the player character is in a relationship with Minthara, the twins Sorn and Nym offer the option to proceed with both of them at once, but only if both the player character and Minthara agree to take part. Minthara declines the proposition and cannot be persuaded, threatening to cut her partner for laying as much as a finger on the twins. However, sleeping with either of the twins alone, though bringing minor disapproval from her, does not have any impact on the player character's relationship with Minthara except her spiteful comments on the matter.
  • Romancing the The Emperor Emperor - The player's relationship with Minthara does not affect this cutscene triggering, nor does the option itself have any impact on the player character's romance with her. Even if she is one of the three party members who join the Emperor's relaxed mindfield, Minthara never objects to the matter since the Emperor afterwards wipes her memory of what she has become a witness to.[Needs Verification]
  • Romancing Haarlep Haarlep - The player character's relationship with Minthara does not affect this option triggering, and going through with it does not have any implications on player character's romance with her. However, if Minthara is in the party and within earshot while interacting with Haarlep, she tries to warn the player character about them[4][5].[Needs Verification] Further on, she disapproves of the player character allowing Haarlep to please themselves with their body and of vowing it to the incubus. However, this does not end the relationship with Minthara or impact it in any way moving forward.

Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. Although the conversation with Minthara can move forward by asking about her sudden interest in their thoughts, the player character ultimately must allow her to read their mind for a romance to begin.
  2. Minthara's description of the player character differs depending on their race and subrace, i.e. "someone on the surface", "someone among Lolth's faithful", "another outcast from the Underdark", etc.
  3. Minthara does not necessarily consider the start of a romance in Act Two to be a committed one: if Ketheric Thorm has not yet been fought atop Moonrise Towers and the player character is currently in the flirting stage with other companion(s) in Act Two when starting a romance with her, the other companion(s) do not yet ask about it afterwards - or require the player character to choose between them and Minthara. However, if the player character is in a progressed romance, or moves to advance their relationship with another companion after they begin romancing Minthara (e.g. Shadowheart, after leaving the Shadowfell), Minthara may prompt them to choose who they ultimately commit to. Finally, once the party fight Ketheric Thorm atop Moonrise Towers, if the player character agreed to romance Minthara, and has not committed to another companion, their relationship is committed with Minthara and ended with any other(s) in progress.
  4. Though in-game dialogue refers to Haarlep as male and as an incubus, it is never explicitly stated by them what their preference is. Game files alternate between using "he/him" and "they/them" for Haarlep as well and there are also entries in the game files for Haarlep as a succubus and female. And given that in Forgotten Realms lore it is not clear if incubi and succubi are a separate beings, who can change their sex at will, or if they are two forms of the same being, this article (as with others) uses "they/them" to refer to Haarlep.
  5. Wiktoria Kubien, who designed most of Haarlep's appearance and clothing, refers to them as "Incubus/Succubus" and uses the pronoun "they". (source)