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Thisobald Thorm is a unique intelligent Undead, the master brewer of the The Waning Moon. He is possibly the son of Ketheric Thorm Ketheric Thorm.[1]


Portrait Thisobald Thorm.png
Go on. Drink, make it drank, be drunk. You and I both, to our good health.
Thisobald Thorm offering a drink to an adventurer.

Involvement[edit | edit source]

Thisobald Thorm stands near the bar in the Waning Moon. When approached, it is always the main character who sits down at the bar.[2] Thisobald tends the bar, and insists that the party member sitting at the bar drinks with him, and is docile unless refused, wherein he immediately attacks. After accepting, a variety of Ability Saves and Skill Checks must be succeeded. The ultimate goal is to "outdrink" him so he bursts through over-indulgence.[3]

There are a number of opportunities to earn inspiration here:

Drinking with Thisobald[edit | edit source]

First drink[edit | edit source]

There are three phases to each round of drinking, which are the Drinking phase, Story phase, and Questions phase. In the drinking phase, the party member can choose to either drink the brew with a Constitution saving throw or avoid drinking entirely by passing a DC 18 Sleight of Hand check check:

  • [CONSTITUTION] Drink with the Brewer. (DC 14)
  • [BARBARIAN] [CONSTITUTION] CHUG THE BEER. (DC 14 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [CLERIC] [CONSTITUTION] Whisper a prayer to your god, then drink. (DC 14 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [MONK] [CONSTITUTION] Steady your body and mind, then drink. (DC 14 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Mime drinking. (DC 18)
  • [ROGUE] [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Pretend to swig deeply, avoiding the liquid at the last moment. (DC 16)

If failing the Constitution Saving Throw, the party member immediately becomes drunk and has a Disadvantage on all the following saving throws. If failing the Sleight of Hand check, Thisobald notices the fraud and becomes hostile.

After successfully drinking or faking a drink, he asks the interacting party member to tell a story. This is to be done by using a Performance check, which is based on the events of the party's journey up to this point. Bards have Advantage Icon.png Advantage on all story checks.

  • [DARK URGE] [PERFORMANCE] I massacred an entire Grove of Tieflings who thought me their protector. (DC 21)
  • [PERFORMANCE] From aboard a mind flayer vessel, I've witnessed the Hells themselves. (DC 21)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I gazed on nature's bounties in a verdant grove of druids. (DC 18)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I've seen the goblins' vile rituals with my own eyes. (DC 18)
  • [PERFORMANCE] A silver-tongued devil bade me feast in his lavishly appointed banquet hall. (DC 18)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I ascended a great tower infused with the most powerful of magic. (DC 16)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I explored a lost fortress buried deep in the Underdark's bowels. (DC 16)
  • [FIEND] [PERSUASION] I made a deal with a creature of purest sin and took its power as my own. (DC 16)
  • [ARCHFEY] [PERSUASION] I gained the faerie favour of a creature from another plane. (DC 16)
  • [GREAT OLD ONE] [PERSUASION] I am the favoured vessel of an unknowably ancient creature. (DC 16)
  • [THE HEXBLADE] [PERSUASION] I became the weapon-made-flesh for a lurking creature of purest shadow. (DC 16)

If failing a Performance check, there is one final chance by Thisobald to weave a better story, this time using Deception:

  • [DECEPTION] I slaughtered a gold dragon and collected its vast hoard. (DC 18)
  • [DECEPTION] I gazed upon all Faerûn from the four peaks of the Spine of the World. (DC 18)
  • [GITHYANKI] [DECEPTION] I walked the corpse of a dead god in the timeless Astral Plane. (DC 18)

Refusing to tell a story or failing the Deception check results in Thisobald becoming hostile.

If succeeding in either circumstance, it is possible to ask Thisobald several questions pertaining to himself and Ketheric Thorm Ketheric Thorm:

  • Who placed the curse on this land?
  • How did you become... what you are now?
  • What do you mean? How can I defeat Ketheric?

Second drink[edit | edit source]

A second round of drinking begins, this time with a Constitution saving throw check or a DC 18 Sleight of Hand check check:

  • [CONSTITUTION] Do as he says. Drink. (DC 16)
  • [BARBARIAN] [CONSTITUTION] AGAIN! DRINK! (DC 16 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [CLERIC] [CONSTITUTION] As your drink, call upon your god to steady you. (DC 18 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [MONK] [CONSTITUTION] Fortify your spirit with a silent mantra as you drink. (DC 18 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Mime a sip of your drink. (DC 18)
  • [ROGUE] [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Take a sip, but spit out the liquour before the creature notices. (DC 16)

Thisobald then requests to tell him more stories, this time involving blood spill. Each of these stories again requires a Performance check, with Bards at Advantage. The more the party explored and completed, the more choices are available:

  • [DARK URGE] [PERFORMANCE] I have transformed into an ancient beast. One of pure hate. (DC 21)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I ripped apart winged imps spawned from the fires of Avernus. (DC 21)
  • [PERFORMANCE] An owlbear mother lunged at me. I slaughtered it in reply. (DC 18)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I conquered infamous hobgoblin Dror Ragzlin and his minions. (DC 18)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I slayed a hideous, pustule-ridden hag. She died a gruesome death. (DC 16)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I challenged a daunting phase spider. Its corpse is all that remains. (DC 16)
  • [PERFORMANCE] A bulette made me its prey, but proved no match for me. (DC 16)
  • [PERFORMANCE] A towering creature rose from molten lava. I felled it with great wit and might. (DC 16)
  • [PERFORMANCE] I bested an inquisitor - a dreaded champion of the Lich Queen, Vlaakith. (DC 16)
  • [GITHYANKI] [PERFORMANCE] I bested an inquisitor - the vaunted champion of my own Queen, Vlaakith. (DC 16)

Passing the performance check allows the party to ask more questions, plus the following new questions:

  • How do the Thorms sustain the shadows?
  • What can you tell me about Ketheric?

Third drink[edit | edit source]

The final round of drinking requires Constitution saving throw or DC 21 Sleight of Hand check to succeed:

  • [CONSTITUTION] Steel yourself and drink. (DC 18)
  • [BARBARIAN] [CONSTITUTION] CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! (DC 18 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [CLERIC] [CONSTITUTION] Swear eternal devotion to your divine as you knock back the drink. (DC 18 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [MONK] [CONSTITUTION]  Channel your focus to a sharpened point as you drink. (DC 18 Advantage Icon.png)
  • [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Mime drinking. (DC 21)
  • [ROGUE] [SLEIGHT OF HAND] Take a drink, but hold it in your mouth instead of swallowing. (DC 18)

There is no need to tell stories or ask further questions. After the third drink, Thisobald dies. [4]

If defeated via skill-checks, the party earns the same experience for Thisobald and his four zombie patrons as if from combat.

Combat[edit | edit source]

Main article: Thisobald Thorm/Combat

Loot[edit | edit source]

Thisobald drops several bottles of alcohol and some alchemical ingredients.

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Related literature[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. Thisobald's kinship with Ketheric Thorm Ketheric is not quite clear. Though Thisobald refers to Ketheric as "father", neither Ketheric nor Isobel Isobel ever acknowledge him in dialogue or otherwise. On the other hand, the Sage Sage Inspiration "Thorm Family Secrets - Discover the fate of Ketheric's family members." requires the Sage character to interact with Thisobald as well as with other family members, such as Isobel.
  2. Prior to patch 6, it was the closest party member who sat down at the bar.
  3. While he mostly has the general shape of a humanoid - albeit extremely bloated - Thisobald Thorm has four legs and a tail, akin to a centaur. It is unknown whether this deformity occurred before his transformation as an undead, or afterwards.
  4. It is sometimes possible to tell Thisobald that the party killed the Mother Owlbear even if they did not. This line seems to also be available if the party talked the owlbear down using Speak with Animals Speak with Animals and it died later on its own.

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