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* Talking to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]], say that if [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] had been pickier, he might still be alive. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Talking to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]], say that if [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] had been pickier, he might still be alive. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Refuse to take on the curse of the spirit in the amulet. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Refuse to bear the madness curse instilled by [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(starts a fight with crypt corpses)''
* Agree to bear the curse {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} and then withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness.{{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** OR Agree to bear the curse {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} and then withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness.{{Approval|Minthara|+3}}


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Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, Minthara has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.

The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Minthara's Approval.

For more information about the approval system, see Approval.

Greetings

Currently, regardless of their approval rating or relationship status, Minthara greets the player with: [Needs Verification]

  • "You wish to consult me?"

If spoken to by someone other than the player character:

  • "I do not have time for idle chatter."

Approval

The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to gain approval.

Act Two

Ico knownSpells lvl 02.png Act 2 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Crèche Y'llek

  • Offer to fight Youth Varrl when Sa'varsh Kethk asks for a challenger, and then indeed kill him Minthara approves +1.
    • OR, Playing as a Fighter Fighter, save Youth Varrl by whatever means, and then tell him that his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline Minthara approves +1

In captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chambers:

  • Tell Kith'rak Therezzyn that you have the Mysterious Artefact, then refuse to surrender it. Minthara approves +1 (provokes a fight with Therezzyn)
  • Ask Inquisitor W'wargaz how he knows so much about you. Minthara approves +1
  • Ask the Inquisitor W'wargaz what you'll get in return for surrendering the weapon Minthara approves +1, and then:
    • Tell him you'll accept gold as a reward. Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Warlock Warlock, ask for treasure of immense power Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Rogue Rogue, ask for anything of immense value Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Wizard Wizard, demand permission to read the valuable spellbooks Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Githyanki Githyanki, ask for a promotion from Vlaakith Minthara approves +1


Shadowed Battlefield If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Rosymorn Monastery Trail:

  • Order Warrior Gronag to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena.
  • Convince the drider to give up the moon lantern. Minthara approves +1
  • After being persuaded to give you the moon lantern, Convince a drider patrol to leave without protection from the curse. Minthara approves +1


Last Light Inn

  • Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to Jaheira inside. Minthara approves +1
  • Talking to the Strange Ox, promise to keep its secret. Minthara approves +1
  • When speaking with Marcus, claim you can kidnap Isobel by yourself. Minthara approves +1
  • Inform Isobel that Marcus is a true soul. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell Isobel that Marcus plans to kidnap her when he attacks the Last Light Inn. Minthara approves +1


Reithwin Town

  • Avoid meeting Arabella in Act Two until you find her parents. Afterwards, tell her that they will never return Minthara approves +1

In the House of Healing

  • Convince Malus Thorm to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.Minthara approves +1
  • Persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. Minthara approves +1
  • Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. Minthara approves +1
  • As a Paladin, tell Malus Thorm that you are duty bound to end him. Minthara approves +1

In the Reithwin Tollhouse

  • When talking to Gerringothe Thorm, tell her you bring death. Minthara approves +1
  • Successfully convince Gerringothe Thorm to end herself by any available option. Minthara approves +1


At The Waning Moon

  • Refuse to drink with Thisobald Thorm. Minthara approves +1
  • Safely drink with Thisobald Thorm (rolling Saving Throw, either general or class-based) up to three times total Minthara approves +1(each time)
    • OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling Sleight of Hand) Minthara approves +1 (gains approval only in first round)
  • Successfully entertain Thisobald Thorm with your stories (through Performance roll), up to two times Minthara approves +1 (each time) .


Gauntlet of Shar

  • Near the Pedestal of Reckoning, tell Shadowheart you'll help her surmount Shar's trials Minthara approves +1
  • Persuade Balthazar to give you the bell to summon Flesh Minthara approves +1
  • Having Mother Dearest in your inventory, ask Balthazar what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. Minthara approves +1
  • Persuade Nessa that her 'love' for Yurgir is the result of being magically dosed. Minthara approves +1


In the Shadowfell:

  • Encourage Shadowheart to kill the Nightsong. Minthara approves +1
  • Choose to fight Shadowheart when confronting the Nightsong. Minthara approves +1
  • Tell Dame Aylin that you will grant her death. Minthara approves +1


Mind Flayer Colony


Moonrise Towers

Note: This option requires DC 21 Intimidation check and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first

  • When talking to Minthara after killing Ketheric Thorm:
    • Say that it suits her. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell her that together you make a good team. Minthara approves +10
    • Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world Minthara approves +5
    • Propose to take Orin's place to lead the cult of Absolute Minthara approves +5
    • Tell her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones.Minthara approves +5
  • When Minthara asks about the one thing that needs explaining:
    • Say that you attacked the Grove to impress her. Minthara approves +3
    • Tell her you want to learn more about the tadpole. Minthara approves +10
    • Tell her you wanted revenge. Minthara approves +10
  • After Minthara gets up from the throne:
    • Ask whether she respected Ketheric. Minthara approves +1
    • When discussing her joining the cult of the Absolute, tell her Ketheric gave you the welcome you felt you deserved. Minthara approves +1
    • Promise she will have her revenge on Orin. Minthara approves +5
  • When talking to Jaheira after killing Ketheric Thorm, say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too Minthara approves +1


Camp/Conversation

  • When discussing her serving the Absolute tell her that losing free will and be forced to kill is horrible. Minthara approves +5
  • When talking about the time she invaded Moonrise, say that pride can be a great weakness. Minthara approves +1
  • Tell her "A dangerous upbringing. It made you strong." Minthara approves +1
  • When she reaches out to your mind as you approach:
    • Let her in exchange to see her thoughts as well. Minthara approves +3
    • Tell her you're flattered or that she is rather special, too Minthara approves +3
    • If you imagine her as a Lover Minthara approves +10
    • OR If you imagine her as any of the others, except for monster, you can follow up with 'I want you too.' Minthara approves +10
  • As the Dark Urge, when you confess your yearn to kill:
    • When she asks why you confide in her, answer that you trust her. Minthara approves +5
    • When she tells you she fear your bloodlust controls you, answer that you enjoy killing, but can control myself. Minthara approves +1

Act Three

Ico knownSpells lvl 03.png Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Rivington
Talking to Yenna:

  • Offer her help:
    • Give some coin OR some food Minthara approves +1 (either option, giving food available for all characters except Druid)
    • OR Suggest to find a guard for her Minthara approves +1 (available for all characters except Cleric)
    • Playing as a Druid, conjure some berries and herbs for her Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Cleric or a Monk, suggest to find the nearest temple Minthara approves +1
    • Playing as a Ranger, suggest to track her mother down Minthara approves +1

Note: Offering Yenna food OR promising to look for her mum after using class-based Ranger line brings another Minthara approves +1 point

  • Be rude to the girl:
    • Ask where did she last see her, then say her mother is probably dead. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell Yenna to get lost. Minthara approves +1

Dealing with Orin's guises:

  • If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, say you would kill someone close to you without hesitation.Minthara approves +1

Note: When playing as Lae'zel origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)

  • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say that you have already done it Minthara approves +1 (This option is available if you have killed either Isobel or your partner in Act Two on demand of your Urge)
  • If Orin is impersonating Fist Rowan, tell her that both sides need a lesson Minthara approves +1

Note: This line goes for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any other Origin, except Dark Urge, it might have unique formulation

  • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, propose to kill and kill again Minthara approves +1
  • If Orin is impersonating Dying Stone Lord Thug:
  • Playing as an Evil Cleric, choose to make him suffer Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, choose to prod his wound OR to spin the blade Minthara approves +1 (either option)
  • If you succeeded a passive DC 20 Perception check, choose to make him scream Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say that you'll enjoy watching him die slowly Minthara approves +1


  • Tell the Strange Ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. Minthara approves +1

Note: Available if you haven't resolved interactions with the Ox in the Act Two

  • Promise to protect her from Orin. Minthara approves +5
  • Threaten the guard at the checkpoint. Minthara approves +1
  • As Origin Astarion, refuse to help Ulma in the Gur Camp. Minthara approves +1
  • Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing Minthara approves +1

Near and inside the Requisitioned Barn:

  • Tell Manip Nestor you'll take a donation. Minthara approves +1
  • Talk to Fist Broadhorn inside the barn and say you were just looking for anything worth stealing Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Rogue, if you are caught inside the barn by Fist Madigan, tell him this is the only place around worth stealing from Minthara approves +1

Circus of the Last Days

  • At the entrance, convince Klaus to let you in, bribing him, using Persuasion, Intimidation, Deception or any class-based option Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say you used to be a murderer Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as an Archfey Warlock, first say that you never pass up a faerie mischief Minthara approves +1
  • Speaking with Zara the mummy, say you don't understand her, and then mime her grunting Minthara approves +1

Dealing with Akabi the djinni:

  • Tell him that he is VERY LOUD. Minthara approves +1
  • Play the game and accuse the djinni of rigging the wheel Minthara approves +1
    • OR, If successful and playing as a Bard, try to distract Akabi, asking him about his adventures Minthara approves +1
    • OR Provoke him to transform you Minthara approves +1
  • After returning from jungle, talk to the djinni again and say you have had much fun OR promise he will pay for it Minthara approves +1 (either option)

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

  • First question: 'Picking off siblings' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Ulaver wine' Minthara approves +1
  • Second question: 'Me' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Gods' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Nobody' Minthara approves +1
  • Third question: 'Let herself be captured' Minthara approves +2

Note:You must have an approval of at least 50 to take the test with Minthara.

  • Talking to Boney the mephit, call his wife Stoney magnificent Minthara approves +1
    • OR Note that she's a lot bigger than himself Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Druid, say they both are magnificent Minthara approves +1

Dealing with Popper the kobold trader:

Note: Class-based Deception lines for Wizard, Warlock or Sorcerer do not give approval [Needs Verification]

  • Playing as a Paladin or a Cleric, tell him that graverobbing is a profane act Minthara approves +1

Dealing with caged beasts:

  • Talking to Shadow-Whiskers with Speak with Animals Speak with Animals, tell her to murder whoever she wants OR say "Sure thing, pussycat".Minthara approves +1 (either option)
  • Talking to Crimson, give him some meat OR promise to bring it later (if you don't have any in inventory) Minthara approves +1 (either option)
    • After defeating false Dribbles, talk to Crimson again and scold the circus staff for starving him OR propose to open his cage up.Minthara approves +1 (either option)
    • OR, Say you'd have killed him before he hurts anyone else Minthara approves +1

Watching Dribbles's show:

  • Say "What a corny joke." OR yell "Boo! Get off the stage!" Minthara approves +1 (either option)
  • Volunteer any companion to the stage as Dribbles's assistant, except Minthara herself Minthara approves +1
    • Then insist on your choice and cheer them Minthara approves +1 (including herself and unique line for Jaheira)
    • OR Choose to cross your arms and glare Minthara approves +1
    • OR Just answer "No." Minthara approves +1
  • If going on stage yourself, suggest any available explanation on why you're special, except "something about my brain" and unique line for The Dark Urge Minthara approves +1

Talking to Lucretious:

  • After defeating false Dribbles, tell her that killing clowns is a rare treat Minthara approves +1
  • When Lucretious asks you to find real Dribbles, answer that you are expensive Minthara approves +1
    • Then say that Dribbles is probably dead now Minthara approves +1
  • When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, say it was pleasure to meet her Minthara approves +1

At the Sword Coast Couriers:

Open Hand Temple

Angleiron's Cellar


Wyrm's Crossing

Note: It may take several sequential attempts to speak with Naaber to get to this dialogue.


Wyrm's Rock Fortress At the Flaming Fist quarters:

  • Convince the Flaming Fist quartermaster Arkleia Oloril to trade with you. Minthara approves +1
    • OR, If failed to convince, attack her Minthara approves +1

When you spot Fist Reynash trying to open a chest:

  • Find out that he needs gold, and then:
    • Tell him to get a grip Minthara approves +1
    • OR Intimidate or blackmail him into giving you his stash Minthara approves +1
    • Fail the Intimidation check to make him surrender his stash Minthara approves +1

Speaking to Manip Bakshi (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not):

  • Successfully detect his thoughts and pretend to be a new recruit Minthara approves +1
  • OR Tell him you've spotted Reynash on stealing Minthara approves +1, and then:
    • Ask whether it is Fists' job to catch criminals Minthara approves +1
    • OR Ask a reward for turning Reynash in Minthara approves +1
    • Attack Bakshi Minthara approves +1
    • OR Agree to leave barracks (or let him escort you out) Minthara approves +1

At the Audience Hall:

  • Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that the Steel Watchers will eventually turn on everyone. Minthara approves +1
  • Pass the Steel Watcher that confronts you at the coronation Minthara approves +1

Note: This dialogue appears only if Karlach is not in the party

  • Playing as The Dark Urge, when Gortash explains your previous dealings:
    • Say that you'll make Orin pay for taking your place Minthara approves +1
    • OR Reply that you don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant Minthara approves +1
  • Agree to witness the ceremony of Gortash's ordain, saying "All right", OR "I'd never dream of missing it", OR "Let's get over" Minthara approves +1 (either option)
  • Refuse to make an alliance with him and confirm your decision Minthara approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say that you'll possess both the brain and the crown and won't share Minthara approves +1
  • After killing Orin, speak to Gortash and say you two can be allies, but you'll keep Ketheric's and Orin's Netherstones Minthara approves +1

Talking to Duke Ravengard after the coronation:

  • Ask him whether the "new dawn" is what they call tyranny now Minthara approves +1
    • OR Tell the Duke that Florrick sent you, then probe Ravengard's mind to discover councellor's location, and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant Minthara approves +1
    • OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected Minthara approves +1


Lower City:

  • Tell Silfy she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette. Minthara approves +1
  • Tell Luan she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette Minthara approves +1, then tell her to stand up straight and project her voice Minthara approves +1.

In Cazador's Dungeon:

  • Tell Sebastian you have no intention of freeing the spawn. Minthara approves +1

At the House of Grief:

  • Tell Arves you've come to collect interest on his debt. Minthara approves +1
  • Kill Viconia after interrogating her, if previously she had been knocked out in the battle. Minthara approves +1

At the Chromatic Scale:

At the Devil's Fee:

  • When first speaking with Helsik, persuade her to give you a free sample. Minthara approves +1
  • Upon returning from House of Hope, intimidate Helsik saying that you've just killed a devil in his own home.Minthara approves +1

At the Sorcerous Sundries:


Camp/Conversation

  • Let her use the Astral-Touched Tadpole. Minthara approves +5
  • Agree with her on that refugees should earn their keep. Minthara approves +3
  • When talking about Menzoberranzan, tell her that her upbringing made her strong. Minthara approves +1
  • Ask her why not to take the head of the next urchin. Minthara approves +1
  • After revealing your origin as the Dark Urge, tell her that she is also exquisite. Minthara approves +5
  • Tell Scratch he's back where he belongs after he returns back to camp.
  • Persuade Lae'zel to kneel to Vlaakith when she appears at your camp.
  • When asking her if she has seen anything like the Steel Watchers before, tell her you wish you had such devices of your own. Minthara approves +1
  • After purchasing a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette from a street vendor, ask her what she would do if she ran the paper. Minthara approves +3
  • After defeating Orin:
    • Tell her that fight isn't over yet OR that she's one of few people who dared to face a Chosen of Bhaal. Minthara approves +3
    • Observe that she sounds disheartened. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell her she is nothing like Orin OR that she and Orin could have been sisters. Minthara approves +5

Disapproval

The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to lose approval.

Act Two

Ico knownSpells lvl 02.png Act 2 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

'Crèche Y'llek

Last Light Inn

  • Agree to help Marcus abduct Isobel.
  • Tell Isobel she is going to "meet Ketheric face-to-face" when helping Marcus abduct her.

Shadow-Cursed Lands

Gauntlet of Shar

  • Lick the suspicious spider carcass.

Moonrise Towers

  • Disagree with Minthara's plans of taking over control of the Absolute.
  • When Minthara asks why you chose to kill the tieflings in the Grove:
    • Tell her you did it to watch them suffer.
    • Tell her you enjoy killing.
    • Tell her a violent urge is the cause.

Mind Flayer Colony

  • Use the Neural Apparatus to release everyone in the Tadpoling Centre.

Camp/Conversation

  • After confessing your urge to kill as the Dark Urge, tell her that you fear that you're similar to a qu'lith quarthan. Minthara disapproves -1

Act Three

Ico knownSpells lvl 03.png Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Rivington
Circus of the Last Days:

  • Talking to Popper the kobold trader after defeating false Dribbles, say that offering 'treatoes' now is a bit callous. Minthara disapproves -1

Watching Dribbles's show:

  • Playing as a Bard, interrupt him with your own pun Minthara disapproves -1
  • Volunteer Minthara to the stage as an assistant to Dribbles Minthara disapproves -1
  • Dealing with Akabi, successfully catch him on rigging the wheel, but apologise and say you were mistaken Minthara disapproves -1
    • Spin the wheel again and try to distract the djinni, letting out a loud fart Minthara disapproves -1
  • Talking to Boney the mephit, say his wife Stoney is not your type Minthara disapproves -1

Talking to Lucretious:

  • When she's training up skeletons (before fighting doppelgangers), tell her that she is being a little harsh Minthara disapproves -1
  • When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, ask whether she is hiring personnel Minthara disapproves -1

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

  • First question: 'Pet spiders' OR 'Time with her family' Minthara disapproves -1 (either option)
  • Second question: 'Drizzt Do'Urden' Minthara disapproves -1
  • Third question: 'Raiding the grove', OR 'Deny Lolth', OR 'Fall for me' Minthara disapproves -1 (either option)

Dealing with Orin's guises:

  • If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, tell her you would never kill someone you cared about. Minthara disapproves -1

Note: When playing as Karlach or Wyll origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 3)

    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, tell her you do all you can to keep your loved ones safe from your blade Minthara disapproves -1

Elsewhere in Rivington:

Angleiron's Cellar

Wyrm's Crossing

  • When trying to hire both Sorn Orlith and Nym Orlith:
    • Choose to proceed with one of the twins when Minthara declines their offer Minthara disapproves -2 (if you're partnered with her)
    • Choose to proceed with one of the twins when any other partner declines their offer Minthara disapproves -1 (if you're partnered with any other companion)

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist barracks:

  • Give Fist Reynash 300 gold to take the ferry Minthara disapproves -1
  • Speaking to Manip Bakshi afterwards (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), let him arrest you Minthara disapproves -1

At the Audience Hall:

  • In the Wyrmway, after defeating Ansur, tell the Emperor "You could do the honorable thing and let him kill you." Minthara disapproves -1

Lower City

Stormshore Tabernacle

  • Donate to a deity at their statue.
    • Donate to Lolth. Minthara disapproves -5
    • Donate to any other deity. Minthara disapproves -1

The Counting House

  • Give Rags Deelarma begging outside the entrance a handful of coins. Minthara disapproves -1

Cazador's Dungeon

  • Tell Sebastian "We'll set you free - what else?" when he asks what will happen to the spawn. Minthara disapproves -1

House of Hope

Lower City Sewers

Camp/Conversation

  • When asking her if she has seen anything like the Steel Watchers before, tell her they need to destroy them, and put a stop to this 'revolution'. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Call Gortash a tyrant, not a saviour