Minthara/Disapproval

Overview

Approval

Disapproval

Banter

Location Remarks

Romance

Combat

Minthara disapproves of almost any kindness or compassion, in thought or in deed, towards other beings, especially those deemed inferior or weak, particularly non-drow.

Minthara dislikes expressions which may imply weakness or lack of resolve. These traits, in her opinion, include peacefulness, conformity and wishes to help those in need merely for the sake of it. She disdains most acts of charity and expressions of sympathy for the weak or meek. Lastly, she does not approve of stopping others from cruel behavior, as well as deliberate refusals from gaining any possible power or advantage.

As Minthara can only be recruited after being used and then sentenced to death by the Chosen of the Absolute, she considers them implacable foes. Hence, she frowns upon any player's choices which coincede with the goals of the current leadership of the cult.

The story and dialogue choices listed on this page lower Minthara's approval.

For more information about the approval system, see Approval.

Act One

Locations

Crèche Y'llek

• At the Infirmary, ask Ghustil Stornugoss whether the zaith'isk process will hurt you (-1)
• Playing as a  Fighter, save Youth Varrl in the Classroom by whatever means, and then tell him that capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts (-1)

Note: If you fight Varrl and leave him knocked out, dialogue treats him has unconscious indefinitely, even if he is shown sitting up after a Long Rest, therefore, these points cannot be gained

• Surrender the Mysterious Artefact to Kith'rak Therezzyn (-1)

Act Two

Locations

Ruined Battlefield

If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Rosymorn Monastery Trail:

• Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy and Kar'niss the drider, betray them and side with the ambushing Harpers (-1)

When dealing with He Who Was:

• After ordering Madeline to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did, stop her, saying she had done enough (-1)
  • OR Say her willing to hurt herself was enough (-1)
  • OR Accuse her of cowardice, using basic or unique  Barbarian,  Bard,  Monk lines (-1)
  • OR Say that it wasn't her fault, using basic or unique  Bard, Good  Cleric or  Monk lines (-1)

Elsewhere:

• After saving Rolan from the Shadows, tell him not to be hard on himself for trying to save his family (-2)
  • OR, Playing as a  Bard, a  Fighter or a  Wizard, use a class-based option (-1)

Last Light Inn

Speaking to Jaheira:

• When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, drink the spiked wine (-1)
  • OR Tell her that you drink to darkness that will come when you drag Isobel to Moonrise Towers (-5) (Available is you have Z'rell's orders to do it)

Dealing with Isobel and Marcus:

• If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance (in this case he will wait in Isobel's room):
  • Speak to Isobel and say that she is coming with you (-5)
• If Marcus assaults the inn (happens if you gained entrance with Mol's help):
  • After speaking to Marcus telepathically, tell Isobel that she is going to meet Ketheric face to face (-5)
• Playing as  The Dark Urge:
  • Obey your Urge and tell Isobel you crave to kill her (-5)

Note: This option is available either before kidnapping attempt, or after assault, or if you return to the inn after freeing Nightsong; turns hostile Isobel and any Harper who sees it

Talking to His Majesty via  Speak with Animals:

• Hiss back at him, say that he is in your territory, and order to get out (-1)
  • OR, Playing as a  Barbarian, WOOF at him (-1)

Speaking to Cerys:

• When she tell you about their misfortunes, say that she did the right thing (-1) (either basic line or unique for  Cleric or  Oathbreaker Paladin)

Elsewhere in the inn:

• Ask Alfira about others, and then say that running was right call (-1)
• Tell Counsellor Florrick you have no intentions to go to Moonrise Towers (-1)
• Let Mol lose the game of lanceboard against Raphael by giving the wrong advice, failing the  Sleight of Hand roll or not helping her at all (-1)
• Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to save captured refugees, promise to rescue Cal and Lia if they are alive OR say that it is your responsibility to bring them back (-1) (either option; starts the quest, if you don't have it already)

Reithwin Town

• At the Reithwin Tollhouse, agree to give up all your gold to Gerringothe Thorm (-1)

At the cemetery:

• Agree to help Arabella find her parents (-1)
  • Then offer Arabella shelter at your camp (-1)
• OR, If you've already found Locke and Komira's bodies, tell Arabella they are dead and succeed  Persuasion or  Intimidation roll to take her to your camp (-1) ( The Dark Urge characters have unique line and  Persuasion option only)

Moonrise Towers

• In the Moonrise Towers Prison, speaking to the Warden for the first time,  deceive her about being Balthazar's closest confidante (-1)
  • Then try to bribe her (-1)
• Tell Wulbren that they can die in prison for all you care (-1)
  • Refuse to find tools for Wulbren (-1)
• When Wulbren, once freed, takes the boat and sails off without the party, let him go (-1)
• If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners (-1)

Gauntlet of Shar

• Lick the dead spider meat (-2) (Comes point by point for each lick)

Mind Flayer Colony

In the Necrotic Laboratory:

• Talking to Balthazar, successfully pretend to be a thrall (-1)

Note: Available only if you helped the necromancer reach the Nightsong and let him take her to Ketheric

• In the Tadpoling Centre, choose to release pod captives (-1)

After the final fight with Apostle of Myrkul

Speaking to Minthara:

• If you haven't recruited her earlier, Minthara'll be intent to go to Baldur's Gate with you. Ask her whether she should skulk back to the Underdark (-2)
  • OR Refuse to recruit her, saying that she is staying here in the shadows (-2)
• When Minthara tells you she is going to kill Orin and seize the cult leadership, say eradicating the Elder Brain may be wiser (-3)
• OR Declare you will be the saviours of Baldur's Gate, then say her vision of future is shaped by violence (-3)
  • Then tell her that if she is going to Baldur's Gate, she'll do it alone (-1)
• OR Say that her idea is madness, and you need to eradicate the cult and the brain (-3)
• When Minthara enquires about one more thing to explain...
• ... and asks why you slayed the tieflings in the Emerald Grove (available if you did):
  • Say you wanted to watch them suffer (-2)
  • Say you don't have an answer (-1)
  • Ask whether it matters (-1)
  • Playing as  The Dark Urge, tell her you weren't in control of yourself. Then fail a DC 14 Deception check to assure her you are now (-2)
    • OR answer "No." (-1)
• ... and asks why you have come to Moonrise:
  • Say you were looking for more people to kill (-1)

Talking to Alfira:

• Playing as a  Bard, agree to play together a show for the tiefling kids (-1)
  • OR Prompt her to play for them alone (-1)

Speaking to Cerys:

• Tell her you're glad they are safe, and mention that Zevlor did his best (-1)
• Tell Cerys that other will look up to her (-1)
• Say you couldn't have done it without Jaheira's help (-1)
  • Then ask her not to speak ill of the dead (i.e. Zevlor) (-1)

Talking to Ide, Umi and Mattis:

• Tell any of them about Mol's eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then:
  • Tell Mattis that Mol will already be at Baldur's Gate when they arrive (-1)
  • Promise Umi that Mol is fine (-1)

Campsite and Conversations

Camp interactions

• Discussing with Minthara her serving the cult of the Absolute, say she should take responsibility for her actions (-1)
  • OR, Playing as  The Dark Urge, tell her that surrendering to your urges is liberating (-1)
• Playing as a  Paladin, discuss your Oath with Minthara and tell her that her crusade against the Absolute is an excuse for the bloodshed (-1)
  • If her own Oath is broken, say it's hardly surprising, for she serves only herself (-1)

• Playing as  The Dark Urge, confess your yearn to kill, and then:
  • When Minthara asks why you confide in her, say you thought she would understand you (-1)
  • When she tells you about qu'lith quarthen, say you fear that you can't control yourself (-1)
• Playing as Astarion origin, after Raphael reveals the purpose of your scars, tell Minthara you just want Cazador dead (-1)

Other companions and camp followers

• After Karlach receives the second upgrade for her heart and Minthara expresses concerns about her courage, answer that you all be better without the tiefling (-1)
• Tell Arabella that her parents are dead, then say that she'll feel better in time OR that her parents would be proud of her (-1) (either option)

Romance

• When she reaches out to your mind as you approach, ask her to respect your privacy (-1)
  • Then say you understand her, but you don't like her (-1)
  • Imagine her as a monster (-5)
  • OR Say she wouldn't like what she saw (-1)
• If you have already partnered with someone else, ask Minthara whether you could have them both (-1)
  • When she objects, say you then choose the other partner (-1)
  • OR Choose simply to leave (-1)
• Ask about why did she call you alurlssrin, then say you don't feel the same way (-5)

Act Three

Locations

Rivington

Angleiron's Cellar

• Refuse to take the Runepowder Bomb from Wulbren but promise you'll destroy the Steel Watch Foundry your way (-1)
  • OR Say that the real enemy is Gortash, not the Gondians (-1)

Circus of the Last Days

• Dealing with Akabi the djinni, successfully catch him on rigging the wheel, but apologise and say you were mistaken (-1)
  • Spin the wheel again and try to distract the djinni, letting out a loud fart (-1)
• Tell Boney the mephit that his wife Stoney is not your type (-1)
• After defeating false Dribbles, tell Popper the kobold trader that offering "treatoes" now is a bit callous (-1)

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

• First question: "Pet spiders" OR "Time with her family" (-1) (either option)
• Second question: "Drizzt Do'Urden" (-1)
• Third question: "Raiding the grove", OR "Deny Lolth", OR "Fall for me" (-1) (either option)
  

Dealing with caged beasts:

• Using  Speak with Animals, tell Shadow-Whiskers that her cage looks comfy (-1)
• Refuse to feed Crimson via  Speak with Animals OR Mock him for being hungry (without the spell) (-1) (either option)

Watching Dribbles's show:

• Playing as a  Bard, interrupt him with your own pun (-1)
• Volunteer Minthara to the stage as an assistant to Dribbles (-1)

Talking to Lucretious:

• When she's training up skeletons (before fighting doppelgangers), tell her that she is being a little harsh (-1)
• When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, ask whether she is hiring personnel (-1)

The Open Hand Temple

• Talk to Brother Bill and Brother Clements and say that their god would be proud of Father Lorgan (-1)
  • OR, Playing as a  Monk, say that offering alms to those in need is a sign of noble soul (-1)
• On the temple roof, tell Tara to stop eating the carrier pigeons (-1)
  • OR, Playing as Gale origin, tell Tara that other aviary in the city is much better (-1)

Sword Coast Couriers

• In the kennels, make Angry Mar'hyah let you keep Scratch, using  Persuasion,  Intimidation or class-based  Druid,  Fighter or  Paladin options (-1)
  • Then force Mar'hyah to leave the kennels via  Deception or  Intimidation (-1)

Elsewhere in Rivington

• Ask newspaper seller Lilly Beanbottom whether she knows that a murder is not a good thing (-1)
• Playing as a  Cleric, tell Tinker Nayzeem that Divine works in mysterious ways (-1)
• Near Requisitioned Barn, donate some gold to Manip Nestor (-1)
• Try and help the Dying Stone Lord Thug (-1)
  • OR, Playing as a  Druid, apply a natural salve to his wound (-1)

Note: These options are available only if Orin is not impersonating the Thug

• In the smugglers' cave, defeat Caïros and his thugs, and if Farlin survived, say you don't want gratitude from criminals (-1)
• Playing as Astarion origin, at the Gur Camp tell Ulma you will do what you can for her tribe's children (-1)

Dealing with Orin's guises

• If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, tell her you would never kill someone you cared about (-1) (Karlach and Wyll origins have unique lines here)
  • OR, Playing as  The Dark Urge, tell her you do all you can to keep your loved ones safe from your blade (-1)

Wyrm's Crossing

• At the entrance gate, consent to be arrested by the Steel Watcher (-1)
• Playing as Astarion origin, in Fraygo's Flophouse drag Pale Petras into the sunlight, then choose to let him go (-1)

At Sharess' Caress:

• When trying to hire both Sorn Orlith and Nym Orlith, choose to proceed with one of the twins when Minthara declines their offer (-2) (if you're partnered with her)
  • OR Choose to proceed with one of the twins when any other partner declines their offer (-1) (if you're partnered with any other companion)
• Speaking to Valeria, propose a toast to ADVENTURE! (-1)

Note: Available only after you've started Solve the Open Hand Temple Murders quest

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist barracks:

• When you spot Fist Reynash trying to open a chest, give him 300 gold to take the ferry (-1)
• Speaking to Manip Bakshi afterwards, let him arrest you (-1)

At the Audience Hall:

• Playing as  The Dark Urge, when Gortash explains your previous dealings, answer that you've come to end this evil plot (-1)
• Speaking to Gortash after killing Orin, surrender two your Netherstones to him (-1)

In The Wyrmway:

• After defeating Ansur, tell the Emperor that it "could do the honorable thing and let him kill you" (-1)
  • OR, Call it "definitely sick", and then say you are sorry for what it had to go through (-1)

Lower City

Basilisk Gate Barracks

• Playing as a  Fighter, talk to Gauntlet Thunder about proper punishment for two soldiers who screwed up, and ask her to let it slide, just for once (-1)
• At the gallows, promise Fist 'Edge' Arensen you'll stay out of trouble (-1)
• Tell Thrastle Muria that you are no builder but still are handy with a hammer (-1)

Speaking to Liara Portyr and Lora Bergauz:

• Tell Lora it wasn't very responsible to take a kid to a tavern (-1)
• Promise to help Lora find her daughter (-1) ( Paladin characters have unique line here)

The Blushing Mermaid

Talking to Bosun Gannet:

• When he instructs you about the tavern rules, say you'll keep to them (-1)
• After dealing with the hag, if real Captain Grisly died, tell Gannet you are sorry for not saving her (-1)

Talking to the hag masking as Captain Grisly:

• When looking for a decision, propose to talk to Lora and calm her down (-1)
• Agree to take money from the hag for killing Lora, then return and say you can't do it (-1)

Speaking to Svend and Siggy:

• Succeed a passive  Insight check, then tell Svend that Siggy loves him (-1) ( Bard characters have unique line here)

Old Garlow's Place
Dealing with hexed Mayrina:

• Using  Speak with Animals, tell Mayrina you are here to help her (-1)
• Offer Adrielle to have a look at the hex (-1)
  • OR Say that she protected Mayrina until now, and that's worth something (-1)

After removing the hex and killing Jatlo:

• Tell Mayrina she was an adorable sheep (-1)
• Offer Mayrina help with the hag (-1) ( Devotion Paladin characters have unique line here)

• Tell Hydrangea Wubb she coudn't have known the spy in disguise (-1)

Note: Hydrangea will be present only if you knocked her out (as the Mask of Regret) in the Overgrown Tunnel AND killed the hag in Act One

• Tell Kled that they are safe now (-1)

• Tell Adrielle that hags and their agents are liars and cheats (-1)
• After Adrielle says she has discovered an ultimate way to kill a hag, offer to deal with the hag OR say you won't let the hag harm her (-1) (either option)

If you have killed Auntie Ethel:

• Tell Adrielle that the hag is finally dead, thanks to you (-1)

Cazador's Dungeon

• Speaking to Sebastian, pass  Persuasion or  Intimidation check, then promise him to set him and the other spawn free OR Ask whether they would be able to control hunger (-1) (either option)
• Don't let Astarion finish the Rite of Profane Ascension once he has started it (-1)

The Crimson Draughts

• When Araj Oblodra invites you to come in, agree to follow her (-1)
• If you are partnered with Astarion and he is in the party, refuse Araj's invitation to come in, saying you saw how Araj made him feel (-1)
  • OR Tell Astarion that you all can leave if he doesn't want to be around Araj (-1)

Note: This option is available and brings approval if you did not convince the spawn to drink Araj's blood in Act Two AND if his companion quest is not finished yet

• Near the Crimson Draughts, give Strange Beggar Sacrum any amount of gold (-1)

The Elfsong Tavern
Talking to Lakrissa:

• In the tavern hall, tell Lakrissa you never pictured her as a barmaid, then say she should never call herself cheap (-1)
• On the tavern's roof, tell her to get back to work, or you will tell Alan about it (-1)

Speaking to Harvard Willoughby:

• Agree to participate in Laff Riot, and then, in the first round, joke about "Dwarf and bulette" (-1)
• In the second round, joke about "Zombie reanimator" (-1)
• In the third round, joke about "Mind flayer and duergar" (-1)

Speaking to Devella Fountainhead on the site of Duke Stelmane's murder:

• If you haven't found the serial killer's list of targets, playing as a  Ranger,  persuade her to use your help (-1)
• If you have found the list of targets, show it/tell about it, then promise to do your best to investigate the Bhaalists' trail (-1)
• When Devella asks you to warn the targets, agree (-1)
• Playing as  The Dark Urge, confess to it to Devella, then say you're working against Bhaal (-1) (two options depending on whether you actually have or have not the list of targets in the inventory)
  • OR Promise to stop your Father (-1)

At the Facemaker's Boutique:

• Interrupt Dolor when he's about to kill Figaro Pennygood, saying "Stop right there!", using any of class-based lines or unique  Half-Orc line (-1)

Talking to Devella Fountainhead after saving her from Dolor:

• Playing as  The Dark Urge, tell Devella you did it only to kill her yourself (-1)

Note: The line differs depending on whether you did or didn't speak to Devella at the Elfsong; choosing it makes Devella and any nearby Flaming Fist hostile to the party

Golbraith's Cellar

• Tell Golbraith Stredivas that mind flayers are dangerous, and then suggest to leave the city (-1)
  • OR Tell Golbraith that he should be fighting, hot hiding (-1)

The Graveyard

• After digging up "M.Kurwin" grave, ask Bugthimble whether he was buried here, and then pay him the "fee" he demands (-1)
• Pay Ulkov Sully for making a coffin for little Lily Fischer (-1)

In the Heapside Prison

• Talking to Skittle via  Speak with Animals, call him a "rat-ical mercantile rodent" (-1)
  • OR Ask what does obtaining goods in the prison en-tail (-1)
  • OR Ask to have a squeak at what he's got (-1)
• Ask him whether his business is rat-ified by the local merchant's league (-1)

The House of Grief

• Speaking to Viconia DeVir without Shadowheart in party, promise to bring Shadowheart to the Cloister (-1)
• If Shadowheart is in the party, surrender her to Viconia (-5)
• If you supported Shadowheart, after defeating Sharrans tell Viconia to go and vanish (-1)

Note: You need to knock her out in the battle to speak to her afterwards

The House of Hope

• In the Archive, fail the  Intimidation check on the Archivist (-1) (Works either with the contract or with the Orphic Hammer)
  

In the Boudoir:

• Tell Haarlep they can have your body, but not your mind (-1)
  • Vow your body to Haarlep (-1)

The Iron Throne

• After docking at the prison, when Omeluum approaches your mind, convince it that other prisoners must be saved, too (-1) (Requires DC 20 Persuasion check)
• At the Flymm Cargo, after returning from the Iron Throne, tell Allandra Grey you won't let her execute Redhammer (-1)

The Sorcerous Sundries

• Near the entrance, if you let slip to Aradin that you've found the Nightsong, tell him that she is in your camp (-1)

Facing Lorroakan along with Dame Aylin:

• Tell the wizard you've come to stop him (-1)
• Tell Lorroakan that Ketheric Thorm already tried to steal Aylin's immortality and is dead now (-1)
  • OR Tell Lorroakan that one more word about catching Aylin will be his last (-1)
  • OR, PLaying as Gale origin, ask him to reconsider his position (-1)

The Stormshore Tabernacle

• Make an offering to any deity (-1)
  • Make an offering to  Lolth, the Queen of Spiders (-4)

Note: Gained only if the offering is enough to receive the blessing, adds to previous disapproval

Other locations in Lower City

• In the Abandoned Cistern, convince the Emperor to extend its mental defences onto Minsc (-1)
• At the Counting House, at the bridge leading to the entrance, give Rags Deelarma a handful of coins (-1)
• At Elerrathin's Home, talking to Jaheira's children (within automated dialogue), tell Rion you are all going to die (-1)
• At the Flaming Fist cordon X: -195 Y: -15 near the Upper City gate, when the Emperor warns you about becoming a thrall, say you don't care, let's go through (-1)

Note: This dialogue will occur if you come close to the gate without having all three Netherstones

• At Highberry's Home, donate some gold to Roger and Cora Highberry for their orphanage (-1)
• At the Society of Brilliance Lodge, refuse to sell or donate the Githyanki Egg to Havkelaag (-1)
• Outside The Singing Lute, give Manip Leythim a healing potion (-1)
• At the Steel Watch Foundry, if you have sided with Wulbren Bongle (and hence killed the Gondians), ask Barcus Wroot whether he wants to die, too (-1)

The Murder Tribunal

• Tell Sarevok Anchev you actually were deciding who should get to kill him (-1)
  • OR, If either Jaheira or Minsc or both are in the party, ask any of them (or both) whether they would like to kill the old man, or the player character should do it themselves (-1)
• Being judged, tell Sarevok that you didn't kill this person, but you will kill him instead (-1)

The Bhaal Temple

• Tell Orin that her vision of the fate of Baldur’s Gate is exquisite (-1)

Speaking to Avatar of Bhaal after defeating Orin:

• Tell Bhaal that you have no desire to harm anyone else (-1)
  • OR Tell him that every night he possesses you your friends are in danger, and you won't stand it (-1)
• Reject your Father's gift and blessings (-3)

Note: These options are available to  The Dark Urge characters only. Throughout the dialogue, there are several potential points where the final yes/no decision might be taken, but the result will be the same

Campsite and Conversations

Camp interactions

• After entering the refugee camp at Rivington, tell Minthara that refugees would be better seeking off help elsewhere (-1)
• Discussing the Steel Watchers, say you need to destroy them and put a stop to this "revolution" (-1)
  • OR Ask Minthara about Gondians (-1)
• Discussing Gortash's ordaining, call him a tyrant, not a saviour (-1)
• After purchasing a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette from a street vendor, say that people are not that gullible (-1)
• When Minthara asks you about mastering the Absolute together, fail the  Persuasion check to convince her (-1)

Other companions and camp followers

• If you helped Astarion to ascend, but then betrayed him to the Gur, say you did this because he had become a monster (-1)
• If you betrayed Shadowheart to Viconia DeVir, tell Minthara that she and Viconia are not that different (-1)

Romance

• If you are partnered, after Orin reveals herself as a shapeshifter, say she does not frighten you, then fail the  Intimidation roll (-1)