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[[File:Defeat the Goblins Kagha Quest.jpg|thumb|Kagha wants the outlanders gone.]] | {{PageSeo | ||
'''Defeat the Goblins''' is a sub-[[ | |title=Defeat the Goblins | ||
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|description=Defeat the Goblins is a sub-quest of the Druid Grove's main quest Save the Refugees in Act One. It can be initiated by speaking with Zevlor after Kagha asks the party to aid them. | |||
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[[File:Defeat the Goblins Kagha Quest.jpg|thumb|{{noexcerpt|Kagha wants the outlanders gone.}}]] | |||
[[File:Dror Ragzlin Quest.webp|thumb|{{noexcerpt|Dror Ragzlin wants the druids and the tieflings gone.}}]] | |||
'''Defeat the Goblins''' is a sub-[[Quest]] of the [[Druid Grove|Druid Grove's]] main quest {{Quest|Save the Refugees}} in [[Act One]]. It can be initiated by speaking with {{CharLink|Zevlor}} after {{CharLink|Kagha}} asks the party to aid them. | |||
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==Objectives== | ==Objectives== | ||
''Objectives and journal entries may vary pending | ''Objectives and journal entries may vary pending story decisions and outcomes.'' | ||
{{Quest objective|Travel to the Goblin Camp.| | |||
* If the tieflings are to make their way to Baldur's Gate, we will need to deal with the goblins. Zevlor thinks someone must be organising them. We should investigate their camp. | |||
* There were three figures in the drawing we found. The goblins must have more than one leader. | * There were three figures in the drawing we found. The goblins must have more than one leader. | ||
}} | |||
{{Quest objective|Find the leader of the Goblin Camp.| | |||
* Travel to the Goblin Camp. | * Travel to the Goblin Camp. | ||
* We arrived at the Goblin Camp. Now we need to find who's in charge and deal with them. | * We arrived at the Goblin Camp. Now we need to find who's in charge and deal with them. | ||
}} | |||
{{Quest objective|Search for the leaders.| | |||
* We learned that there are three people in charge, but we need more information. | * We learned that there are three people in charge, but we need more information. | ||
* We've arrived in the Goblin Camp. Now to find the three leaders. | * We've arrived in the Goblin Camp. Now to find the three leaders. | ||
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* We killed Minthara, the drow commander. But she can't have been the only one keeping the goblins in line - we need to find more leaders. | * We killed Minthara, the drow commander. But she can't have been the only one keeping the goblins in line - we need to find more leaders. | ||
* We killed the goblins' spiritual leader, Priestess Gut. Someone else must have led them into battle - we need to find them. | * We killed the goblins' spiritual leader, Priestess Gut. Someone else must have led them into battle - we need to find them. | ||
* The goblins' spiritual leader, Priestess Gut, was defeated. Someone else must have led them into battle - we need to find them. | |||
}} | |||
{{Quest objective|Kill all three leaders.| | |||
* There are three leaders of the Goblin Camp: Dror Ragzlin, Priestess Gut, and a drow. | |||
* The drow is called Minthara. With this, we can cripple the goblins. | |||
* There are three leaders of the Goblin Camp: Dror Ragzlin, Priestess Gut, and the drow Minthara. | * There are three leaders of the Goblin Camp: Dror Ragzlin, Priestess Gut, and the drow Minthara. | ||
* We killed the goblin king Dror Ragzlin. | * We killed the goblin king Dror Ragzlin. | ||
* We killed one of the goblin leaders, a drow named Minthara. | * We killed one of the goblin leaders, a drow named Minthara. | ||
* A drow named Minthara, one of the goblin leaders, was defeated. | |||
* We killed Priestess Gut, one of the goblin leaders. | * We killed Priestess Gut, one of the goblin leaders. | ||
}} | |||
{{Quest objective|Speak with Zevlor.| | |||
* With Dror Ragzlin dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | * With Dror Ragzlin dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | ||
* With Dror Ragzlin defeated, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | |||
* With Minthara dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | * With Minthara dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | ||
* With Minthara defeated, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | |||
* With Priestess Gut dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | * With Priestess Gut dead, the goblins have no leadership. They won't be a threat now - we should tell the tieflings. | ||
}} | |||
{{Quest objective|Quest Complete| | |||
* The roads are safe, and the tieflings are ready to leave. Tonight, we celebrate at camp. | * The roads are safe, and the tieflings are ready to leave. Tonight, we celebrate at camp. | ||
* Killing the goblin leaders no longer matters. Minthara left with her band of raiders, and they're going to attack the grove. | * Killing the goblin leaders no longer matters. Minthara left with her band of raiders, and they're going to attack the grove. | ||
* The tieflings were forced out of the grove before we could deal with the goblins. They'll likely die on the road. | * The tieflings were forced out of the grove before we could deal with the goblins. They'll likely die on the road. | ||
}} | |||
== Walkthrough == | == Walkthrough == | ||
Defeat the Goblins can be obtained by speaking to Kagha in the Inner Sanctum of the Druid Grove. Kagha blames the outlanders for bringing trouble to the Grove and wants them gone. Seeing how the party defeated the goblin raiders at the Grove's entrance, Kagha believes they could work as hired swords. She orders the party to offer their services to the tieflings so that they will leave, and states they have until the end of the [[Rite of Thorns]] to do so. | Defeat the Goblins can be obtained by speaking to Kagha in the Inner Sanctum of the Druid Grove. Kagha blames the outlanders for bringing trouble to the Grove and wants them gone. Seeing how the party defeated the goblin raiders at the Grove's entrance, Kagha believes they could work as hired swords. She orders the party to offer their services to the tieflings so that they will leave, and states they have until the end of the [[Rite of Thorns (ritual)|Rite of Thorns]] to do so. | ||
Speak to Zevlor in the Secluded Chamber in the Hollow. Choose "Leaving the grove is the best option. How can I help?" Zevlor explains that while he and his refugees want to leave, the roads are infested with goblins. It'd be a death sentence for them to go back on the roads. He explains that defeating the goblin leaders would cause enough disarray for the tieflings to safely leave. This starts the journey to the goblin camp to defeat the leaders. | Speak to Zevlor in the Secluded Chamber in the Hollow. Choose "Leaving the grove is the best option. How can I help?" Zevlor explains that while he and his refugees want to leave, the roads are infested with goblins. It'd be a death sentence for them to go back on the roads. He explains that defeating the goblin leaders would cause enough disarray for the tieflings to safely leave. This starts the journey to the goblin camp to defeat the leaders. | ||
== Entering the Goblin Camp == | === Entering the Goblin Camp === | ||
There are various check-point encounters on the path to the proper Goblin Camp. There are | There are various check-point encounters on the path to the proper Goblin Camp. There are several different options to approach these encounters, including but not limited to: | ||
* A full-frontal assault. | * A full-frontal assault. | ||
** Note, this approach may lead to turning the entire camp hostile if an alarm drum is successfully sounded. | ** Note, this approach may lead to turning the entire camp hostile if an alarm drum is successfully sounded. | ||
* A mixture of diplomacy checks, such [[Persuasion]] and [[Deception]]. | * A mixture of diplomacy checks, such as [[Persuasion]] and [[Deception]]. | ||
** Alternatively, | ** Alternatively, it's possible to pass all diplomacy checks by utilizing the dialogue [[Tadpole Power]]. | ||
** [[Drow]], or characters disguised as one via the | ** [[Drow]], or characters disguised as one via the {{SAI|Disguise Self}} spell, also have special dialogue options that helps bypassing diplomacy checks. | ||
* Avoiding the check-points through [[ | * Avoiding the check-points through [[Stealth]] or finding an alternative path (i.e. approaching the camp from the North-West). | ||
** | ** Approaching from the north-western path requires to deal with some sleeping guards, who can be woken accidentally if a jumping party member lands near them. A {{SAI|Silence}} spell on the guards can effectively cover this. | ||
If successfully bypassing the check-points and entering the camp proper, it's possible to freely partake in the camp activities, converse with the celebrating Goblins, and take on various side quests (more information on the [[Goblin Camp]] page). Specifically for this quest, the party must continue and venture into the interior of the temple. | |||
=== The Shattered Sanctum === | === The Shattered Sanctum === | ||
[[File:Cracked Wall.jpg|thumb|The cracked wall on the second-level of the Goblin Camp.]] | [[File:Cracked Wall.jpg|thumb|The cracked wall on the second-level of the Goblin Camp.]] | ||
There are | There are three entrances into the Shattered Sanctum - the Heavy Oak Doors {{coords|105|454}}, the Passageway {{coords|51|476}}, or through the Cracked Wall on the 2nd level of the camp {{coords|-106|481}}. | ||
''The | ''The Heavy Oak Doors:'' | ||
* | * This entrance is guarded by {{CharLink|Trinzas|Warrior Trinzas}}, who can be persuaded through diplomacy, [[Tadpole Power|Tadpole Powers]], or Drow special dialogue like the previous check-points. | ||
* Violence is always a viable alternative, however, there is a risk the fighting draws the attention of other goblins in the area, leading to the alarms being sounded and the goblins turning hostile. | * Violence is always a viable alternative, however, there is a risk the fighting draws the attention of other goblins in the area, leading to the alarms being sounded and the goblins turning hostile. | ||
''The | ''The Passageway:'' | ||
* The path to this entrance is "guarded" by 2 [[Poison Mine]] and 1 [[Blast Mine]]. Entering by this way places the party at the southeast corner of the Shattered Sanctum. | |||
''The Cracked Wall:'' | |||
* The wall is an object with 22 [[Hit Points]], [[Sturdy]], and immunity to all [[Damage Types|damage types]] except piercing (resistant), and force (vulnerable). | * The wall is an object with 22 [[Hit Points]], [[Sturdy]], and immunity to all [[Damage Types|damage types]] except piercing (resistant), and force (vulnerable). | ||
* This makes force-damage items/spells/abilities that can clear the 10 damage threshold - like | * This makes force-damage items/spells/abilities that can clear the 10 damage threshold - like {{SmRarityItem|Smokepowder Bomb|Smokepowder Bombs}} or {{SAI|Eldritch Blast}} - ideal for breaking this wall. | ||
* | * There are sleeping guards situation close to the wall. If using the {{SAI|Silence}} spell on the explosion or the guards to cover the noise, a confrontation can be avoided. | ||
There is technically a fourth entrance to the temple from the [[Selûnite Outpost]] in the [[Underdark]], but that door is inaccessible externally, and requires to be opened from inside of the Shattered Sanctum first via the Stone Discs or the wall Lever. | |||
=== Kiling the Goblin leaders === | |||
=== Priestess Gut === | ==== Priestess Gut ==== | ||
{{CharLink|Gut|Priestess Gut}} (X:297, Y:-18) is in front of the giant throne immediately north of the front entrance. She offers to brand the party with the [[Brand of the Absolute]], which can be accepted or rejected. Regardless of whether the brand is taken, Gut recognizes the party as fellow True Souls. She attempts to probe the party's minds with her illithid powers. If allowing her to do this, she notices something is amiss. If explaining that it's the result of the tadpoles and asking if she can help, commences {{Quest|Ask the Goblin Priestess for Help}}. Gut says that the party should join her in her private chambers. | |||
If following her to her chambers, she says she has a cure for the tadpole but a special cleansing potion must be taken first. However, an [[Arcana]] check reveals this is a sleeping potion. If she's called out on this, or if the party member in question is resistant to sleeping potions (for example is an elf, half-elf, or paladin), she becomes hostile and also triggers several nearby goblins to become hostile. However, if the potion is taken, she chains up the party member and says she intends them to become her pet squid. It's possible to either break free with an [[Acrobatics]] or [[Strength]] check. However a special scene plays if nothing is done at all. {{CharLink|Korrilla}} appears from a portal to assassinate both Gut and her Ogre guard. Then she disappears after a brief conversation, warning the party to be more careful. | |||
=== Minthara === | ==== Minthara ==== | ||
The drow Minthara (X:333, Y:42) is in the northeastern corner of the Shattered Sanctum. There is a | The drow {{CharLink|Minthara}} (X:333, Y:42) is in the northeastern corner of the Shattered Sanctum. There is a {{CharLink|Scrying Eye}} that must be dealt with before defeating her, otherwise the camp is alerted. Once the scrying eye is dealt with, only Minthara and her minions in the room become hostile, so the other two leaders can still be dealt with stealthily. If Minthara is knocked out with non-lethal melee attacks instead of being killed, then she can be recruited as a [[Companion]] in [[Moonrise Towers]] in Act Two. | ||
=== Dror Ragzlin === | ==== Dror Ragzlin ==== | ||
{{CharLink|Dror Ragzlin}} is unique in that he is the only member of the trio that cannot be killed with stealth. If the party kills Ragzlin, no matter where they are, the entire camp becomes hostile. For this reason, it's best to wrap up all business in the goblin camp and acquire the waypoint in the Selune Outpost below the Shattered Sanctum before killing him. | |||
Dror Ragzlin is in the throne room to the north, casting | Dror Ragzlin is in the throne room to the north, casting {{SAI|Speak with Dead}} on an illithid corpse (X:296, Y:40). A cutscene automatically plays as the party enters the room, with Ragzlin asking if they'd like to speak to a squid. | ||
If Ragzlin is allowed to commune with the illithid on his own, its killer is revealed to be the party after the second question. This can be avoided by taking control of Ragzlin's questions with a wisdom check (DC 10) and asking questions other than who is the killer such as "Why was the Nautiloid in Faerûn?" Asking an obvious question like "Who is the Absolute?" causes Ragzlin to be suspicious of the party. Otherwise, if the party is caught out at being the illithid's killer, they can talk Ragzlin down through a Persuasion check or by using Detect Thoughts to reveal he likes being called the Absolute's Right Hand. | If Ragzlin is allowed to commune with the illithid on his own, its killer is revealed to be the party after the second question. This can be avoided by taking control of Ragzlin's questions with a wisdom check (DC 10) and asking questions other than who is the killer such as "Why was the Nautiloid in Faerûn?" Asking an obvious question like "Who is the Absolute?" causes Ragzlin to be suspicious of the party. Otherwise, if the party is caught out at being the illithid's killer, they can talk Ragzlin down through a Persuasion check or by using Detect Thoughts to reveal he likes being called the Absolute's Right Hand. | ||
=== Returning to the Grove === | |||
Upon returning to the Grove, Zevlor approaches the party and states his scouts brought news that the goblin leaders have been defeated. He thanks the party and states that the refugees pooled up their gold to reward the party, which the party can either accept the reward (includes gold in addition to a helmet {{SmRarityItem|Wapira's Crown}}, which can't be acquired otherwise) or refuse. Then, he tells the party that the tieflings plan to celebrate and offers to go with the party to camp immediately or later. | |||
If Halsin has not been rescued as part of {{Quest|Rescue the Druid Halsin}} then he escapes on his own and appears back in the Grove. | |||
=== Alternative solution: Starting the Raid on the Grove === | |||
==== Double-Crossing Minthara ==== | |||
Alternatively the the quest can be completed without killing all three goblin leaders. After initialising the raid on the grove through talking with Minthara, it is possible to double-cross her. First Halsin must be freed in the Worg Pens but left there. Then, after agreeing with Minthara to seize the grove, the party must talk to Halsin in the Worg Pens and then immediately travel to the [[Emerald Grove]]. All this must be done without any long rest. | |||
==== Defending the Emerald Grove ==== | |||
At the Emerald Grove the party must side with the Tiefling defenders. If the goblin forces are defeated and Minthara is killed or knocked out, then the quests {{Quest|Rescue the Druid Halsin}} and ''Defeat the Goblins'' will be completed without killing Dror Ragzlin and Gut. If Minthara is knocked out, she can be recruited as [[Companion]] in [[Act Two]]. | |||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
* | {{notebegin}} | ||
* While it was believed that the quest would transition after a certain number of long rests, this has been proven false.{{cite web | |||
|author = Proxy Gate Tactician | |||
|date = 2023-09-08 | |||
|url = https://youtu.be/kGbLSKtMkLk?si=gVpUuSKRZPgMPAeh&t=11 | |||
|title = Busting More Myths in Baldur's Gate 3 | |||
|publisher = YouTube | |||
|accessdate = 2023-10-21 | |||
}} | |||
{{noteend}} | |||
== References == | |||
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[[Category:Quests]] | [[Category:Quests]] | ||
[[Category:Druids' Grove Quests]] | [[Category:Druids' Grove Quests]] |
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Defeat the Goblins is a sub-Quest of the Druid Grove's main quest in Act One. It can be initiated by speaking with Zevlor after Kagha asks the party to aid them.
Objectives[edit | edit source]
Objectives and journal entries may vary pending story decisions and outcomes.
Walkthrough[edit | edit source]
Defeat the Goblins can be obtained by speaking to Kagha in the Inner Sanctum of the Druid Grove. Kagha blames the outlanders for bringing trouble to the Grove and wants them gone. Seeing how the party defeated the goblin raiders at the Grove's entrance, Kagha believes they could work as hired swords. She orders the party to offer their services to the tieflings so that they will leave, and states they have until the end of the Rite of Thorns to do so.
Speak to Zevlor in the Secluded Chamber in the Hollow. Choose "Leaving the grove is the best option. How can I help?" Zevlor explains that while he and his refugees want to leave, the roads are infested with goblins. It'd be a death sentence for them to go back on the roads. He explains that defeating the goblin leaders would cause enough disarray for the tieflings to safely leave. This starts the journey to the goblin camp to defeat the leaders.
Entering the Goblin Camp[edit | edit source]
There are various check-point encounters on the path to the proper Goblin Camp. There are several different options to approach these encounters, including but not limited to:
- A full-frontal assault.
- Note, this approach may lead to turning the entire camp hostile if an alarm drum is successfully sounded.
- A mixture of diplomacy checks, such as Persuasion and Deception.
- Alternatively, it's possible to pass all diplomacy checks by utilizing the dialogue Tadpole Power.
- Drow, or characters disguised as one via the spell, also have special dialogue options that helps bypassing diplomacy checks.
- Avoiding the check-points through Stealth or finding an alternative path (i.e. approaching the camp from the North-West).
- Approaching from the north-western path requires to deal with some sleeping guards, who can be woken accidentally if a jumping party member lands near them. A spell on the guards can effectively cover this.
If successfully bypassing the check-points and entering the camp proper, it's possible to freely partake in the camp activities, converse with the celebrating Goblins, and take on various side quests (more information on the Goblin Camp page). Specifically for this quest, the party must continue and venture into the interior of the temple.
The Shattered Sanctum[edit | edit source]
There are three entrances into the Shattered Sanctum - the Heavy Oak Doors X: 105 Y: 454, the Passageway X: 51 Y: 476, or through the Cracked Wall on the 2nd level of the camp X: -106 Y: 481.
The Heavy Oak Doors:
- This entrance is guarded by Warrior Trinzas, who can be persuaded through diplomacy, Tadpole Powers, or Drow special dialogue like the previous check-points.
- Violence is always a viable alternative, however, there is a risk the fighting draws the attention of other goblins in the area, leading to the alarms being sounded and the goblins turning hostile.
The Passageway:
- The path to this entrance is "guarded" by 2 Poison Mine and 1 Blast Mine. Entering by this way places the party at the southeast corner of the Shattered Sanctum.
The Cracked Wall:
- The wall is an object with 22 Hit Points, Sturdy, and immunity to all damage types except piercing (resistant), and force (vulnerable).
- This makes force-damage items/spells/abilities that can clear the 10 damage threshold - like Smokepowder Bombs or - ideal for breaking this wall.
- There are sleeping guards situation close to the wall. If using the spell on the explosion or the guards to cover the noise, a confrontation can be avoided.
There is technically a fourth entrance to the temple from the Selûnite Outpost in the Underdark, but that door is inaccessible externally, and requires to be opened from inside of the Shattered Sanctum first via the Stone Discs or the wall Lever.
Kiling the Goblin leaders[edit | edit source]
Priestess Gut[edit | edit source]
Priestess Gut (X:297, Y:-18) is in front of the giant throne immediately north of the front entrance. She offers to brand the party with the Brand of the Absolute, which can be accepted or rejected. Regardless of whether the brand is taken, Gut recognizes the party as fellow True Souls. She attempts to probe the party's minds with her illithid powers. If allowing her to do this, she notices something is amiss. If explaining that it's the result of the tadpoles and asking if she can help, commences . Gut says that the party should join her in her private chambers.
If following her to her chambers, she says she has a cure for the tadpole but a special cleansing potion must be taken first. However, an Arcana check reveals this is a sleeping potion. If she's called out on this, or if the party member in question is resistant to sleeping potions (for example is an elf, half-elf, or paladin), she becomes hostile and also triggers several nearby goblins to become hostile. However, if the potion is taken, she chains up the party member and says she intends them to become her pet squid. It's possible to either break free with an Acrobatics or Strength check. However a special scene plays if nothing is done at all. Korrilla appears from a portal to assassinate both Gut and her Ogre guard. Then she disappears after a brief conversation, warning the party to be more careful.
Minthara[edit | edit source]
The drow Minthara (X:333, Y:42) is in the northeastern corner of the Shattered Sanctum. There is a Scrying Eye that must be dealt with before defeating her, otherwise the camp is alerted. Once the scrying eye is dealt with, only Minthara and her minions in the room become hostile, so the other two leaders can still be dealt with stealthily. If Minthara is knocked out with non-lethal melee attacks instead of being killed, then she can be recruited as a Companion in Moonrise Towers in Act Two.
Dror Ragzlin[edit | edit source]
Dror Ragzlin is unique in that he is the only member of the trio that cannot be killed with stealth. If the party kills Ragzlin, no matter where they are, the entire camp becomes hostile. For this reason, it's best to wrap up all business in the goblin camp and acquire the waypoint in the Selune Outpost below the Shattered Sanctum before killing him.
Dror Ragzlin is in the throne room to the north, casting
on an illithid corpse (X:296, Y:40). A cutscene automatically plays as the party enters the room, with Ragzlin asking if they'd like to speak to a squid.If Ragzlin is allowed to commune with the illithid on his own, its killer is revealed to be the party after the second question. This can be avoided by taking control of Ragzlin's questions with a wisdom check (DC 10) and asking questions other than who is the killer such as "Why was the Nautiloid in Faerûn?" Asking an obvious question like "Who is the Absolute?" causes Ragzlin to be suspicious of the party. Otherwise, if the party is caught out at being the illithid's killer, they can talk Ragzlin down through a Persuasion check or by using Detect Thoughts to reveal he likes being called the Absolute's Right Hand.
Returning to the Grove[edit | edit source]
Upon returning to the Grove, Zevlor approaches the party and states his scouts brought news that the goblin leaders have been defeated. He thanks the party and states that the refugees pooled up their gold to reward the party, which the party can either accept the reward (includes gold in addition to a helmet Wapira's Crown, which can't be acquired otherwise) or refuse. Then, he tells the party that the tieflings plan to celebrate and offers to go with the party to camp immediately or later.
If Halsin has not been rescued as part of
then he escapes on his own and appears back in the Grove.Alternative solution: Starting the Raid on the Grove[edit | edit source]
Double-Crossing Minthara[edit | edit source]
Alternatively the the quest can be completed without killing all three goblin leaders. After initialising the raid on the grove through talking with Minthara, it is possible to double-cross her. First Halsin must be freed in the Worg Pens but left there. Then, after agreeing with Minthara to seize the grove, the party must talk to Halsin in the Worg Pens and then immediately travel to the Emerald Grove. All this must be done without any long rest.
Defending the Emerald Grove[edit | edit source]
At the Emerald Grove the party must side with the Tiefling defenders. If the goblin forces are defeated and Minthara is killed or knocked out, then the quests Companion in Act Two.
and Defeat the Goblins will be completed without killing Dror Ragzlin and Gut. If Minthara is knocked out, she can be recruited asNotes[edit | edit source]
- While it was believed that the quest would transition after a certain number of long rests, this has been proven false.[url 1]
References[edit | edit source]
- ↑ Proxy Gate Tactician (2023-09-08). Busting More Myths in Baldur's Gate 3. YouTube. Retrieved 2023-10-21.