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* If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the ''[[zaith'isk]]'', either: | |||
** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check|Performance|14}}, then succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|30}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|30}}.)''. | |||
* Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}. | * Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}. | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, save [[Youth Varrl]] by whatever means, and then tell him that his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, save [[Youth Varrl]] by whatever means, and then tell him that his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
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** Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, ask for a promotion from Vlaakith {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ** Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, ask for a promotion from Vlaakith {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
'''[[Ruined Battlefield]]''' <br> | |||
''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Grymforge]]:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Oath of Vengeance|Vengeance Paladin}} or a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, use a class-based answer when [[Lassandra|Harper Lassandra]] orders you to come closer. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Answer that you're a nightmare in the dark. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, call yourself an escaped lunatic {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | |||
''If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | * Order [[Gronag|Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
* Order [[Gronag|Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. | * When [[Kar'niss]] the drider comes to take the convoy to [[Moonrise Towers]], choose to attack it (straightaway or after speaking with it) {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
** OR Convince the drider not to attack you, if you killed the convoy before summoning him, using [[Deception]] OR [[Intimidation]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** | * Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy, protect them from [[Harpers]], thus maintaining your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
** Then use [[Deception]] again, and convince the drider to walk away into the shadows | ** OR Side with the ambushing Harpers. Then, after defeating the convoy, tell the Harpers' leader you're going to kill them and keep the lantern.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(Taking this course immediately starts the fight with remaining Harpers)''. | ||
* | ▶'''''Note:''' Works, too, if you managed to pick the lantern up during the battle.'' | ||
* | * If ambushing the convoy '''with''' the Harpers, start the dialogue with [[Kar'niss]] the drider and [[Deception|deceive]] it into giving you the lantern {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
** Then use [[Deception]] again, and convince the drider to walk away into the shadows {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Starting the dialogue, reveal the ambush to the drider and turn yourself on Harpers {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Talking to the drider after defeating Harpers, convince it that you have infiltrated their ranks to gather information {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, snap on it and call it abomination {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | |||
* Speaking to [[He Who Was]], say you doubt that he is here for the goodness of his heart {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Then agree to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] for him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Order [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(Evil {{Class|Cleric}} will have a unique line)'' | |||
** Then tell her to stab herself and don't stop OR to prove she is sorry {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** Finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* | * After saving [[Rolan]] from the [[Shadow]]s, tell him to shut up and be grateful {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
* Talking to the [[ | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}} or a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
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** Tell | '''[[Last Light Inn]]'''<br> | ||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | |||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If you have talked to Marcus already and know his mission, try to convince Jaheira that he is a spy {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | |||
* If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | |||
** Agree to help him kidnap Isobel OR say that you are going to take the cleric yourself {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** OR Talk to him and say that his mission ends here {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Choose a dialogue option to attack him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Speak to Isobel and warn her, revealing Marcus as a True Soul {{Approval|Minthara|+5}} | |||
* If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | |||
** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, explain to Isobel that he is going to kidnap her {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | |||
** Obey your Urge and tell Isobel you crave to kill her ''(this option is available either before kidnapping attempt, or after assault, or if you return to the inn after freeing [[Nightsong]]; turns hostile Isobel and any Harper who sees it)'' | |||
** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(available after the kidnap attempt AND if you haven't threatened her)'' | |||
''Talking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | |||
* Ask whether the Flaming Fist are just going to stay around {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** If [[Wyll]] is in the party, tell Florrick it's your business what had happened to him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[Wyll]], say it was a devil deal that has gone terribly wrong {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Say you only wanted to admire him close {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, and then indeed choose to quietly admire him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Ranger}}, say you do not seek his territory {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* When she tell you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, conclude that she abandoned others {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Class|Monk}} or {{Class|Paladin}} (except [[Oathbreaker]]))'' | |||
* Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | |||
** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* After [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus's]] assault, when she asks whether they cannot trust anyone: | |||
** Tell her to stop whining {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, tell her to use her anger.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Ask her about others, and then say that it was a cowardly move {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When Alfira asks you how do you keep going, answer: | |||
** That you take one step at a time {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR That danger is your life {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR That you don't complain constantly {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Fighter}}, a {{Class|Druid}}, a {{Class|Ranger}}, or a {{Class|Rogue}}, use a class-based line {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, a {{Race|Deep Gnome}} or a {{Race|Duergar}}, say that only the strong survive {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When Alfira supposes that surviving tieflings were taken to the [[Moonrise Towers]]: | |||
** Promise you will find them {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If you successfully [[Rescue the Tieflings]], speak to Alfira again. When she asks how did you do it, answer that you were being a hero {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Talk to [[Alfira]] after [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescuing the tieflings]] from [[Moonrise Towers]] and take the reward {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(If [[Lakrissa]] survived, talking to her starts the same cutscene)'' | |||
''Speaking with [[Bex]] and [[Danis]]:'' | |||
* Before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | |||
** Promise Bex to find Danis, using any of two basic options or {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Cleric}} lines {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
** OR Tell her that Danis is now goblin chow toy OR that they've probably killed and eaten him {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
* If Danis '''died''' while saving attempt, tell Bex that he is better off dead than abandoned in Moonrise {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If Danis '''survived''' and reunited with Bex: | |||
** Smile and then say it's wonderful to see them together OR mention that it is all thanks to you {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** When Bex asks why you helped, answer that you did it because they were in trouble {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | |||
''Dealing with [[Rolan]], [[Cal]] and [[Lia]]:'' | |||
* Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | |||
** Tell him that his siblings are better off dead than in cult's hands {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell him to stop whining and do something about it {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, tell him he won't be able to read his spellbook if he keeps drinking {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If you have already saved him from the [[Shadow]]s, say you're absolutely going to gloat {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If either Cal or Lia (or both) '''died''' while rescue attempt: | |||
** Tell Rolan that you wanted to save everyone, but couldn't {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Garble their names and say you don't know them {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If both siblings '''survived''': | |||
** After they thank you, ask Rolan whether he has something to add {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask who is going to pay you {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* If Rolan died in battle with Shadows, tell either Cal or Lia that he died as he lived - stupidly {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken [[Rolan]] has snapped on her:'' | |||
* Say you're sorry, and then add that he is more immature than she is {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* OR Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil": | |||
** Say that he was observant for it's what she really is. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Tell her next time call him one back {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* When Ide shows you the [[The Way of the Wanderer|book]] she means to keep for Rolan, convince her to give it to you, using [[Deception]], [[Intimidation]] or [[Persuasion]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either option, requiring a DC 14 roll)'' | |||
''Talking to the [[Strange Ox]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Promise to keep its secret. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell the ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | |||
* When [[Vidor|Manip Vidor]] says you are meant to be heading towards Moonrise, answer "doing your job, you mean" {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* Help [[Mol]] win the game of lanceboard against [[Raphael]] using the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}}, or {{Class|Wizard}} options, or following [[Gale|Gale's]] advice (if he is in party) {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
* After [[Mol]] is taken during [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus's]] assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]''' | '''[[Reithwin Town]]''' | ||
* Avoid meeting [[Arabella]] in Act Two until you find her parents. Afterwards, tell her that they will never return {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * Avoid meeting [[Arabella]] in Act Two until you find her parents. Afterwards, tell her that they will never return {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
'''In the [[House of Healing]]''' | '''In the [[House of Healing]]''' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
* | ** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
* Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | * OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
* | * OR Choose to attack him at any stage of the dialogue {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
'''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | '''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | ||
* | * Talking to [[Gerringothe Thorm]], attack her straightaway, or choose to answer "I bring death", or say "This ends now" after giving her several coins. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(starts a fight with the tollmaster and her minions)'' | ||
* | ** OR Convince Gerringothe Thorm to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | ||
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** OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ** OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | ||
<!--''In the [[Wyrm's Rock Prison]]:'' | |||
* Talking to the [[Unusual Skull]], ask him to speak plainly {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(requires {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}})'' | |||
** Solve the first riddle {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} | |||
** Solve the second riddle {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}--> | |||
'''[[Lower City]]:''' | '''[[Lower City]]:''' | ||
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'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | |||
* At the [[Crèche_Y'llek#Infirmary|Infirmary]], ask [[Stornugoss]] whether the [[zaith'isk]] process will hurt you {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * At the [[Crèche_Y'llek#Infirmary|Infirmary]], ask [[Stornugoss]] whether the ''[[zaith'isk]]'' process will hurt you {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
* Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, save [[Youth Varrl]] in the [[Crèche_Y'llek#Classroom|Classroom]] by whatever means, and then tell him that capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, save [[Youth Varrl]] in the [[Crèche_Y'llek#Classroom|Classroom]] by whatever means, and then tell him that capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
* When speaking with [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]], surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to her {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | * When speaking with [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]], surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to her {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
'''[[Ruined Battlefield]]'''<br> | |||
''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | |||
* Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy and [[Kar'niss]] the drider, betray them and side with the ambushing [[Harpers]] {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* After saving [[Rolan]] from the [[Shadow]]s, tell him not to be hard on himself for trying to save his family {{Approval|Minthara|-2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Fighter}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Agree to help [[Arabella]] find her parents. | |||
** Let [[Arabella]] stay at your camp. | |||
''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | |||
* After ordering [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did, stop her, saying she had done enough {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* OR Say her willing to hurt herself was enough {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* OR Accuse her of cowardice, using basic or unique {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}} lines {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* OR Say that it wasn't her fault, using basic or unique {{Class|Bard}}, Good {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Monk}} lines {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | ||
* | ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* | * When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, drink the spiked wine {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
** OR Tell her that you drink to darkness that will come when you drag Isobel to [[Moonrise Towers]] {{Approval|Minthara|-5}} ''(This option is available is you have [[Z'rell|Z'rell's]] orders to do it)'' | |||
''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | |||
* If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | |||
** Speak to Isobel and say that she is coming with you {{Approval|Minthara|-5}} | |||
* If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | |||
** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, tell Isobel that she is going to meet Ketheric face to face {{Approval|Minthara|-5}} | |||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | |||
** Obey your Urge and tell Isobel you crave to kill her {{Approval|Minthara|-5}} ''(this option is available either before kidnapping attempt, or after assault, or if you return to the inn after freeing [[Nightsong]]; turns hostile Isobel and any Harper who sees it)'' | |||
''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Hiss back at him, say that he is in your territory, and order to get out {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* When she tell you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, say that she did the right thing {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreaker Paladin}})'' | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Alfira]], ask her about others, and then say that running was right call {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]], tell her you have no intentions to go to [[Moonrise Towers]] {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Let [[Mol]] lose the game of lanceboard against [[Raphael]] by giving the wrong advice, failing the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}} roll or not helping her at all {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | |||
* Speaking to drunken [[Rolan]] before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]], promise to rescue [[Cal]] and [[Lia]] if they are alive OR say that it is your responsibility to bring them back {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
'''[[ | '''At the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | ||
*Agree to | * Agree to give up all your gold to [[Gerringothe Thorm]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' |
Latest revision as of 17:34, 28 November 2024
Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance | Combat |
Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, Minthara has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Minthara's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Currently, regardless of their approval rating or relationship status, Minthara greets the player with: [Needs Verification]
- "You wish to consult me?"
If spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I do not have time for idle chatter."
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to gain approval.
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to lose approval.