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== History ==
== History ==
===Bhaalite upbringing===
===Bhaalite upbringing===
Raised believing she was fathered by [[Bhaal]] himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between [[Sarevok Anchev]] and his daughter [[Helena Anchev]],{{cite text|A page from Sarevok's book|[[Sarevok Anchev]]}} intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord. Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's [[Chosen]].
Raised believing she was fathered by [[Bhaal]] himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between [[Sarevok Anchev]] and his daughter [[Helena Anchev]], intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.{{cite text|name=incest|A page from Sarevok's book|[[Sarevok Anchev]]}} Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's [[Chosen]].


When Orin was still a child, Sarevok secretly ordered Helena to kill her as an offering to Bhaal.{{ref|"What better offering to make to our Lord?" - [[Sarevok Anchev]] on Helena's attempted murder}} Desperate to become his Chosen, Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by Orin who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.
When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.{{ref|[[Bhaal_Temple#The Chosen's Room|Orin's Chambers]], lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.<br>''"I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."''}} Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.{{ref|[[Murder Tribunal]], lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.<br>''"Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found ''exceptional''. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."''}}{{cite text|name=incest}}


Orin served Bhaal directly under [[The Dark Urge]] as their second in command, though the two were often at odds about the correct way of offering souls to Bhaal. Orin believed that the Urge mutilated their victims without consideration, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill.{{cite text|name=orinkill|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy|Orin the Red}} The Urge, on the other hand, understood that Bhaal cared only for the quantity of murder performed in his name, nothing more.{{cite text|name=kill}}
Orin served Bhaal directly under [[The Dark Urge]] as their second in command, though the two were often at odds about the correct way of offering souls to Bhaal. Orin believed that the Urge mutilated their victims without consideration, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill.{{cite text|name=orinkill|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy|Orin the Red}} The Urge, on the other hand, understood that Bhaal cared only for the quantity of murder performed in his name, nothing more.{{cite text|name=kill}}


Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed by Bhaal and Sarevok alike,{{ref|"Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal." - Sarevok Anchev}} Orin brooded as she waited for an opportunity to become her father's favored.
Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed and looked down on by Bhaal and Sarevok alike, Orin brooded as she waited for an opportunity to become her father's favored.{{ref|Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev to the Dark Urge after becoming an Unholy Assassin.<br>''"Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal."''}}


=== Orin's betrayal ===
=== Orin's betrayal ===
The Urge joined forces with [[Bane (God)|Bane's]] Chosen [[Enver Gortash]], and together, they formulated a plan to steal the [[Crown of Karsus]], an ancient arcane object of immense power, and subjugate an [[Elder Brain]] with it in order to create a soulless army to destroy the world with. After recruiting [[Ketheric Thorm]], [[Myrkul|Myrkul's]] Chosen, Orin joined the three in the raid to plant the Crown on the brain beneath [[Moonrise Towers]].  
The Urge joined forces with [[Bane (God)|Bane's]] Chosen [[Enver Gortash]], and together, they formulated a plan to steal the [[Crown of Karsus]], an ancient arcane object of immense power, and subjugate an [[Elder Brain]] with it in order to create a soulless army to destroy the world with.{{cite text|Scrapbook of Letters|The Dark Urge, [[Enver Gortash]]}} After recruiting [[Ketheric Thorm]], [[Myrkul|Myrkul's]] Chosen, Orin joined the three in the raid to plant the Crown on the brain beneath [[Moonrise Towers]].  


It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an [[Illithid]] tadpole in them. With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators. Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan. At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked [[Minthara]] into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert [[Minthara]] into a [[True Soul]].
It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an [[Illithid]] tadpole in them.{{ref|name=morphic|[[Morphic Pool]], lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.<br>"''You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."''}}{{cite text|Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda|Enver Gortash}} With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.{{cite text|Elder Brain Domination|[[Ketheric Thorm]]}} Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.{{cite text|Journal of Enver Gortash|Enver Gortash}} At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked [[Minthara]] into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert [[Minthara]] into a [[True Soul]].


If the Urge was not chosen as the player character, [[Fallen Bhaalspawn|their corpse]] will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.{{note|This corpse uses the [[Dragonborn#White_Dragonborn]] form for [[The Dark Urge (origin)|the Dark Urge]], as seen in promotional footage for the [[Origin]] and through the in-game default choice.}}
If the Urge was not chosen as the player character, [[Fallen Bhaalspawn|their corpse]] will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.{{note|This corpse uses the [[Dragonborn#White_Dragonborn|White Dragonborn]] form for [[The Dark Urge (origin)|the Dark Urge]], as seen as the in-game default choice for the [[Origin]] and in promotional footage for it.}}


If picked as a player character, they are found by [[Kressa Bonedaughter]] instead, saved from death and held captive in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] for some time as she experiments on them,{{cite text|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)|[[Balthazar]]}} until they are shipped away on the [[Nautiloid]] during the [[Prologue]].{{cite text|Journal of Magthew Budj|[[Maghtew Budj]]}}
If picked as a player character, they are found by [[Kressa Bonedaughter]] instead, saved from death and held captive in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] for some time as she experiments on them,{{cite text|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)|[[Balthazar]]}} until they are shipped away on the [[Nautiloid]] during the [[Prologue]].{{cite text|Journal of Magthew Budj|[[Maghtew Budj]]}}
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=== Act Three ===
=== Act Three ===
The player first encounters Orin in the village of [[Rivington]], right before entering Baldur's Gate. As a changeling, she can appear to the player under the guise of several identities (listed [[#Disguises|below]]). She tells the party that she is aware of their goals, even goading the player to be as violent and bloody as they can while they are attempting to obtain the Netherese Stones from her and [[Enver Gortash|Gortash]].
After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.  


If the player chooses to ally themselve with [[Enver Gortash|Gortash]] during the coronation, he will reveal that one of your camp followers has been replaced by Orin{{ref|Although Gortash reveals this, the player is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the [[Lower City]]}}.  
If the player chooses to ally themselve with [[Enver Gortash|Gortash]] during the coronation, he will reveal that one of your camp followers has been replaced by Orin{{ref|Although Gortash reveals this, the player is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the [[Lower City]]}}.  
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When encountering Orin for the first time as the [[Dark Urge]] she will reveal their previous relationship. The [[Dark Urge]] will also be able to choose different dialogue options when interacting with her. One of the dialogue options to save the victim from Orin can be made with Advantage when playing as the [[Dark Urge]].}}
When encountering Orin for the first time as the [[Dark Urge]] she will reveal their previous relationship. The [[Dark Urge]] will also be able to choose different dialogue options when interacting with her. One of the dialogue options to save the victim from Orin can be made with Advantage when playing as the [[Dark Urge]].}}


== Disguises ==
== Orin's shapeshifting ==
Orin's shapeshifting allows her to innocuously follow the player as several different characters in the [[Wyrm's Crossing]] area. Among her disguises are:
Orin will use her shapeshifting abilities to harass the party twice, using one of the disguises listed below. Following the second transformation, all further interactions with the NPCs below will be genuine.
 
Meeting one of Orin's impersonations for the first time as the Dark Urge earns the [[Haunted One|Personal Relations]] [[Inspiration|background goal]].
 
Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.
 
Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives, giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats.
 
===Disguises===
* [[Zethino]], the fey Master of Love at the [[Circus of the Last Days]].
* [[Zethino]], the fey Master of Love at the [[Circus of the Last Days]].
* [[Fist Rowan]], a member of the [[Flaming Fist]] standing near the back of the donation barn.
* [[Fist Rowan]], a member of the [[Flaming Fist]] standing near the back of the donation barn.
* [[Lens]], a tiefling journalist.
* [[Lens]], a journalist for the [[Baldur's Mouth|Baldur's Mouth Gazette]].
* [[Gyldro Angleiron]], a blacksmith in the Rivington General.
* [[Gyldro Angleiron]], a blacksmith in the [[Rivington General]].
* A wounded thug of the Stone Lord.
* A wounded thug of the [[Stone Lord]] near the [[Western Beach]].
{{SpoilerDurge|Meeting one of Orin's impersonations for the first time earns the [[Inspiration|Inspirational Event]] '''Personal Relations''' ([[Haunted One]] background).}}Once the player triggers two of Orin's transformations from the list above, all other potential disguises will be the actual NPCs henceforth.
 
<gallery widths="300" heights="200">
Fist Rowan.jpg|Orin masquerading as Rowan, a Flaming Fist
Gyldro Smith.jpg|Orin impersonating Gyldro, a smith
Lens Journalist.jpg|Orin posing as a journalist named Lens
Dying Thug.jpg|Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord Thug
</gallery>


== Combat ==
== Combat ==
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Orin with Laezel Captive.jpg|Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.
Orin with Laezel Captive.jpg|Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.
Orin Overhead Shot.jpg|''"Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."''
Orin Overhead Shot.jpg|''"Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."''
Fist Rowan.jpg|Orin masquerading as Fist Rowan.
Gyldro Smith.jpg|Orin impersonating Gyldro Angleiron.
Lens Journalist.jpg|Orin posing as Lens the journalist.
Dying Thug.jpg|Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord thug.
</gallery>
</gallery>


== Related literature ==
== Related literature ==
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* {{MdRarityItem|Manifesto|override_icon=Book Hermit D Item Icon.png}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Manifesto|override_icon=Book Hermit D Item Icon.png}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Experiment on Cruor}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Experiment on Cruor}}
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* {{MdRarityItem|A page from Sarevok's book}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)}}


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
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* It's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin, they'll be level 12, though not have the large amount of hit points that come with that level, and, when examined, one can see the NPC has Orin's passive features such as [[Immutable Form]], etc.
* Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.
* When a disguised Orin has been identified the player can attack the NPC. This will skip the NPC's dialogue and go straight to Orin's reveal who will vanish without giving her normal lines about [[Gortash]]. Even if the attack would have killed the NPC, Orin herself doesn't die.
* Orin's kidnapping and impersonation event during the quest [[Rescue Orin's Victim]] is not fully random; it appears to follow a priority system among the companions left in camp (that is, companions not in your active party), prioritizing companions that have the lowest approval with the player, from a list of 3 possible kidnapping victims: [[Lae'zel]], [[Gale]], and [[Halsin]] (or [[Minthara]]). She will not kidnap a romanced companion. If none of these companions are available, she instead kidnaps [[Yenna]].
* Orin's kidnapping and impersonation event during the quest [[Rescue Orin's Victim]] is not fully random; it appears to follow a priority system among the companions left in camp (that is, companions not in your active party), prioritizing companions that have the lowest approval with the player, from a list of 3 possible kidnapping victims: [[Lae'zel]], [[Gale]], and [[Halsin]] (or [[Minthara]]). She will not kidnap a romanced companion. If none of these companions are available, she instead kidnaps [[Yenna]].
* At launch, the player could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''' (a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of {{SmallIcon|Bloodthirst Icon.png}}[[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin) by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle, but this appears to have been fixed. {{verify}}
* At launch, the player could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''' (a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of {{SmallIcon|Bloodthirst Icon.png}}[[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin) by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle, but this appears to have been fixed. {{verify}}
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== References ==
== References ==
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== External links ==
== External links ==

Revision as of 18:56, 12 March 2024

Overview Combat
Orin the Red
Level 12
Voiced byMaggie Robertson
Information
TitleDeathbringer of Bhaal
RaceChangeling
HometownTemple of Bhaal
Baldur's Gate
FamilyBhaal (great-grandfather and grandfather)
Sarevok Anchev (grandfather and father)
Helena Anchev (mother and sister)
The Dark Urge (great-uncle/aunt and uncle/aunt)

Orin the Red is one of the Chosen of the Absolute, the enigmatic cult taking over the Sword Coast, and serves as one of the main antagonists in Baldur's Gate 3.

A daughter of Bhaal and a devout practitioner in the arts of murder and pain, Orin has painted the streets red in her father's name for many years. Still to be caught thanks to her shapeshifting abilities, she now prepares to make out of Baldur's Gate the biggest bloody offering to her father yet.

Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose.
— Orin the Red

Overview

Background

Orin is the Chosen of Bhaal and one of the three masterminds leading the Cult of the Absolute. As such, she is one of the main antagonists of the game and a key objective in defeating the cult and the enigmatic Absolute.

Hinted at first though notes, she is properly introduced at the end of Act 2 as one of the conspirators of the cult along with Ketheric Thorm and Enver Gortash. Through cunning and murderous devotion, she and her allies have established a solid Bhaalite foothold in the city of Baldur's Gate. Now, empowered by a netherstone and with cult's plans in motion, she intends to paint the city crimson with blood in a mighty offering to Bhaal.

Gameplay

  • Orin is a level 12 Changeling boss and one of the main antagonists in the game
  • First mentioned in Act 1, she is introduced in Act 2, and properly encountered and fought in Act 3
  • Fighting her is required in order to obtain her Netherstone and proceed with the story
  • In combat, she uses her deadly powers given by Bhaal himself to deal large amounts of damage quickly while being supported by her cultists
  • Her encounter can go different ways depending on the choices made by the party and whether or not the player character is the Dark Urge or not
  • A cease of hostilities with her and her Bhaalites can be brokered if agreed to slay Gortash first
  • She can trick the party with her disguises and will kidnap someone important to the party

Quests

Description

Appearance

Orin has pale blue-grey skin with swirling, smoke-like plumes of red undulating across it. Her eyes are dull grey, contoured by dark eyeliner, giving her an intimidating look. Her straw-colored, braided hair falls to the backs of her knees in a fastening reminiscent of a flail. Her armour is bright blood-red, rigid and rough like chitin. She adorns her head with an ornate silver tiara with the centerpiece shaped in the form of a person supplicant, a single crimson gem giving her appearance some color.

Personality

Orin is cruel and sadistic, but artistic and creative in her own twisted way.[text 1] Her demeanour is immature and almost childish; Orin easily loses her composure when things do not go her way, enacts small rebellions against the authority figures in her life,[text 2] and enjoys, in a arguably playful way, toying with her victims. She derives sadistic pleasure from taunting her victims with the gory details of her deeds.

When she impersonates another character with her shapeshifting abilities, she will initially be able to convincingly mimic their personality. Her true nature tends to break through the mimicry, however, as she is often unable to contain her bloodlust, resulting in her becoming more openly violent and sadistic, invoking threats and fantasies of extreme violence and grotesque brutality before shifting back into her base appearance.

Her deranged devotion to Bhaal hides her true desire for acceptance and belonging as she is constantly looking for approval from her father Bhaal. Though uncommon, she extends her admiration to those she respects for being brutal devouts of Bhaal such as Sarevok. Her confident and vicious demeanor shatters, however, when confronted with the truth of her origins, and displays true fear when forced by Bhaal to become his tool instead of doing it willingly.

History

Bhaalite upbringing

Raised believing she was fathered by Bhaal himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between Sarevok Anchev and his daughter Helena Anchev, intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.[text 3] Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's Chosen.

When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.[1] Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.[2][text 3]

Orin served Bhaal directly under The Dark Urge as their second in command, though the two were often at odds about the correct way of offering souls to Bhaal. Orin believed that the Urge mutilated their victims without consideration, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill.[text 4] The Urge, on the other hand, understood that Bhaal cared only for the quantity of murder performed in his name, nothing more.[text 1]

Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed and looked down on by Bhaal and Sarevok alike, Orin brooded as she waited for an opportunity to become her father's favored.[3]

Orin's betrayal

The Urge joined forces with Bane's Chosen Enver Gortash, and together, they formulated a plan to steal the Crown of Karsus, an ancient arcane object of immense power, and subjugate an Elder Brain with it in order to create a soulless army to destroy the world with.[text 5] After recruiting Ketheric Thorm, Myrkul's Chosen, Orin joined the three in the raid to plant the Crown on the brain beneath Moonrise Towers.

It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an Illithid tadpole in them.[4][text 6] With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.[text 7] Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.[text 8] At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked Minthara into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert Minthara into a True Soul.

If the Urge was not chosen as the player character, their corpse will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.[note 1]

If picked as a player character, they are found by Kressa Bonedaughter instead, saved from death and held captive in the Mind Flayer Colony for some time as she experiments on them,[text 9] until they are shipped away on the Nautiloid during the Prologue.[text 10]

Involvement

Act One

Orin is not present in the first act of the game, but her silhouette can be seen during the Absolute's vision which shows all the three Chosen of the Absolute.

Act Two

Orin first appears in person alongside Ketheric Thorm and Enver Gortash in the mind flayer colony underneath Moonrise Towers. Using her Netherstone, the Lash of Bhaal, she issues the order to the Netherbrain to march the Absolute's armies on Baldur's Gate.

Act Three

After reaching Rivington, the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.

If the player chooses to ally themselve with Gortash during the coronation, he will reveal that one of your camp followers has been replaced by Orin[5].

After the player enters the Lower City there are various triggers[6] in which Orin reveals to have shapeshifted into one of your camp followers. This starts the Rescue Orin's Victim Quest and the Get Orin's Netherstone Quest. Orin wants the player to kill Gortash and will offer to set the victim free after Gortash is killed.

In order to get Orin's Netherstone the player will need to visit the Murder Tribunal. After either becoming an Unholy Assassin or slaying Sarevok the player will be able to enter Bhaal Temple. There Orin and the kidnapping victim can be found.

Irrespective of previous choices Orin will try to kill her victim. The player can interrupt her by passing dialogue checks, thus saving the victim. Then the fight against Orin will begin.

Background HauntedOne Icon.png Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.

When encountering Orin for the first time as the Dark Urge she will reveal their previous relationship. The Dark Urge will also be able to choose different dialogue options when interacting with her. One of the dialogue options to save the victim from Orin can be made with Advantage when playing as the Dark Urge.

Orin's shapeshifting

Orin will use her shapeshifting abilities to harass the party twice, using one of the disguises listed below. Following the second transformation, all further interactions with the NPCs below will be genuine.

Meeting one of Orin's impersonations for the first time as the Dark Urge earns the Personal Relations background goal.

Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.

Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives, giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats.

Disguises

Combat

See main article: Orin/combat

Orin serves as one of the main antagonists of Act 3 of the game alongside Enver Gortash. Her defeat is required before facing the final threat of the game: the Netherbrain.

Loot

Achievements

A-First Blood.jpg

First Blood
Kill Orin while her cultists are performing their ritual chant.


Gallery

  • Orin's in-game model.

    Orin's in-game model.

  • Character portrait by Edward Vanderghote.

    Character portrait by Edward Vanderghote.

  • Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.

    Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.

  • "Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."

    "Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."

  • Orin masquerading as Fist Rowan.

    Orin masquerading as Fist Rowan.

  • Orin impersonating Gyldro Angleiron.

    Orin impersonating Gyldro Angleiron.

  • Orin posing as Lens the journalist.

    Orin posing as Lens the journalist.

  • Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord thug.

    Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord thug.

Related literature

Notes

  1. ↑ This corpse uses the White Dragonborn form for the Dark Urge, as seen as the in-game default choice for the Origin and in promotional footage for it.
  • Orin's kidnapping and impersonation event during the quest Rescue Orin's Victim is not fully random; it appears to follow a priority system among the companions left in camp (that is, companions not in your active party), prioritizing companions that have the lowest approval with the player, from a list of 3 possible kidnapping victims: Lae'zel, Gale, and Halsin (or Minthara). She will not kidnap a romanced companion. If none of these companions are available, she instead kidnaps Yenna.
  • At launch, the player could temporarily obtain Blade of the First Blood (a Shortsword version of Bloodthirst wielded by Orin) by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle, but this appears to have been fixed. [Needs Verification]

References

  1. ↑ Orin's Chambers, lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.
    "I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."
  2. ↑ Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.
    "Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found exceptional. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."
  3. ↑ Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev to the Dark Urge after becoming an Unholy Assassin.
    "Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal."
  4. ↑ Morphic Pool, lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.
    "You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."
  5. ↑ Although Gortash reveals this, the player is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the Lower City
  6. ↑ Known triggers: Entering the canalization, long resting


  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Concerning Orin the Red – The Dark Urge
  2. ↑ Experiment on Cruor – Orin the Red
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 A page from Sarevok's book – Sarevok Anchev
  4. ↑ Blood-Envy for the Unworthy – Orin the Red
  5. ↑ Scrapbook of Letters – The Dark Urge, Enver Gortash
  6. ↑ Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda – Enver Gortash
  7. ↑ Elder Brain Domination – Ketheric Thorm
  8. ↑ Journal of Enver Gortash – Enver Gortash
  9. ↑ Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers) – Balthazar
  10. ↑ Journal of Magthew Budj – Maghtew Budj

External links

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