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| description = Orin the Red is the {{FRWiki|Chosen}} of Bhaal, the leader of the Bhaalites in the city of Baldur's Gate.
| image = Orin the Red.jpg
| image = Edward-vanderghote-orin.webp
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| name = Orin the Red
|one-name=Overview
| image = Orin the Red.jpg
|two=Orin/combat
| voice = Maggie Robertson
|two-name=Combat
| titles = Deathbringer of Bhaal
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| race = Changeling
{{Infobox creature
| family = [[Bhaal]] (grandfather and great-grandfather)<br>[[Sarevok Anchev]] (grandfather and father)<br>[[Helena Anchev]] (mother and sister)<br>[[The Dark Urge]]
| name = Orin
| level = 12
| full name = Orin the Red
| hometown = [[Temple of Bhaal]], [[Baldur's Gate]]
| image = <gallery>
 
Edward-vanderghote-orin.webp|Character Portrait
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| child = yes
| va = [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7047380 Maggie Robertson]
| title = Deathbringer of Bhaal
| race = [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Changeling Changeling]
| family = [[Bhaal]] (great-grandfather ''and'' grandfather)<br>[[Sarevok Anchev]] (grandfather ''and'' father)<br>[[Helena Anchev]] (mother ''and'' sister)<br>[[The Dark Urge]] (great-uncle/aunt ''and'' uncle/aunt)
| hometown = [[Temple of Bhaal]]<br>[[Baldur's Gate]]
| faction = [[Bhaal|Cult of Bhaal]]
| size = Medium
| size = Medium
| type = Humanoid
| type = Humanoid
| armour_class = 20
| hit_points = 145
| hit_points_tactician = 208
| movement_speed_meters =
| movement_speed_feet =
| weight_kg = 75
| weight_lb = 150
| hiddenlevel = 12
| str = 18
| dex = 22
| con = 17
| int = 14
| wis = 16
| cha = 19
| dex_save_proficiency = yes
| int_save_proficiency = yes
| initiative = +7
| condition1_name = Legendary Resistance: Incapacitation
| condition1_description = +10 to your next saving throw against being Incapacitated.
| condition1_mode = Tactician
| feature1_name = Ambusher (+1)
| feature1_description = +1 to Initiative rolls.
| feature1_item = Studded Leather Armour +2
| feature2_name = Crimson Weapon
| feature2_description = Add your ability modifier to the damage of offhand attacks.
| feature2_item = Crimson Mischief
| feature3_name = Darkvision
| feature3_description = Can see in the dark up to 12m.
| feature4_name = Evasion
| feature4_description = You receive less damage from spells or effects that require a DEX save.
| feature5_name = Exploit Weakness
| feature5_description = Creatures hit with Bloodthirst receive Vulnerability to Piercing damage.
| feature5_item = Bloodthirst
| feature6_name = Fast Hands
| feature6_description = You gain an extra Bonus action.
| feature7_name = Immutable Form
| feature7_description = Immune to having your form changed. +5 to saving throws against being Banished.
| feature8_name = Legendary Action: Murderous Retort
| feature8_description = Use a Legendary Action to immediately strike back at your attacker.
| feature8_mode = Honour
| feature9_name = Improved Critical
| feature9_description = The number you need to roll a critical hit while attacking is reduced by 1.
| feature9_item = Bloodthirst
| feature10_name = Magic Resistance
| feature10_description = Advantage on saving throws against spells and other magical effects.
| feature11_name = Opportunity Attack
| feature11_description = Automatically attack an enemy moving out of your reach.
| feature12_name = Perfect Sentry
| feature12_description = Cannot be Surprised.
| feature13_name = Prey Upon the Weak
| feature13_description = Crimson Mischief deals an extra 1d4 Piercing damage against targets with 50% or fewer hit points.
| feature13_item = Crimson Mischief
| feature14_name = Reliable Talent
| feature14_description = Ability checks with proficient skills have a floor of 10.
| feature15_name = Superior Padding
| feature15_description = You take 1 less Bludgeoning damage.
| feature15_item = Studded Leather Armour +2
| feature16_name = Uncanny Dodge
| feature16_description = When an attack hits you, you only take half the usual damage.
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}}'''Orin the Red''' is one of the chosen of the [[Absolute]]. She is a practitioner in the art of inflicting pain and a grandmaster of murder. Orin has killed for many years, but has yet to be caught, thanks in part to her shapeshifting abilities, which enable her to take the form of anyone.
'''Orin the Red''' is the Chosen of {{CharLink|Bhaal}} and one of the leaders of the enigmatic [[Cult of the Absolute]] and serves as one of the main antagonists in [[Baldur's Gate 3|''Baldur's Gate 3'']].
{{DiQ|Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose.|Orin| the Red about Bhaal|}}
{{TOC|limit=3}}


She hides her cravings to commit murder beneath these numerous masks, disguising her intentions and herself to lure unsuspecting victims.
==Overview==
A daughter of [[Bhaal|Bhaalspawns]] and a devout practitioner in the arts of murder and pain, Orin has painted the streets red in her father's name for many years. Still to be caught thanks to her shapeshifting abilities, she now prepares to make out of Baldur's Gate the biggest bloody offering to her father yet.
===Background===
Hinted at first through notes, she is properly introduced at the end of Act 2 as one of the conspirators of the cult along with {{CharLink|Ketheric Thorm}} and {{CharLink|Enver Gortash}}. Through cunning and murderous devotion, she and her allies have established a solid Bhaalite foothold in the city of [[Baldur's Gate]]. Now, empowered by a {{SmRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone|netherstone}} and with cult's plans in motion, she intends to paint the city crimson with blood in a mighty offering to Bhaal.


{{Q|Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose.|''Orin the Red, during Act 3.''}}
===Gameplay===
* Orin is a level 12 [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Changeling Changeling] boss and one of the main antagonists in the game.
* First mentioned in [[Act One|Act 1]], she is introduced in [[Act Two|Act 2]], and properly encountered and fought in [[Act Three|Act 3]].
* Fighting her is required in order to obtain her Netherstone and proceed with the story.
* In combat, she uses her deadly powers given by Bhaal himself to deal large amounts of damage quickly while being supported by her cultists.
* Her encounter can go different ways depending on the choices made by the party and whether or not the player character is the {{CharLink|The Dark Urge}}.
* A cease of hostilities with her and her Bhaalites can be brokered if agreed to slay Gortash first.
* She can trick the party with her disguises and will kidnap someone important to the party.


== Description ==
=== Appearance ===
=== Appearance ===
While in her changeling form, Orin has pale blue-grey skin with swirling, smoke-like plumes of red undulating across it. Her blond, braided hair falls to the backs of her knees in a fastening reminiscent of a flail. Her armour is bright blood-red, rigid and rough like chitin.
Orin has pale blue-grey skin with swirling, smoke-like plumes of red undulating across it. Her eyes are dull grey, contoured by dark eyeliner, giving her an intimidating look. Her straw-colored, braided hair falls to the backs of her knees in a fastening reminiscent of a flail. Her armour is bright blood-red, rigid and rough like chitin. She adorns her head with an ornate silver tiara with the centerpiece shaped in the form of a person supplicant, a single crimson gem giving her appearance some color.


=== Personality ===
=== Personality ===
Orin is cruel and sadistic, but artistic and creative in her own twisted way.{{ref|"''You kill beautifully, and have talents in your shapes' magics that I never will.''" - ''[[Concerning Orin the Red]]'' by [[The Dark Urge]]}} Her demeanour is immature and almost childish; Orin easily loses her composure when things do not go her way, enacts small rebellions against the authority figures in her life,{{ref|"''I need no coddling. I will send it back to Him, entrails and all.''" - ''[[Experiment on Cruor]]'' by Orin}} and enjoys, in a arguably playful way, toying with her victims.
Orin is cruel and sadistic, but artistic and creative in her own twisted way.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}} by [[The Dark Urge]]}} Her demeanour is immature and almost childish; Orin easily loses her composure when things do not go her way, enacts small rebellions against the authority figures in her life, and enjoys, in a arguably playful way, toying with her victims.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Experiment on Cruor}} by Orin the Red}} She derives sadistic pleasure from taunting her victims with the gory details of her deeds.
 
When she impersonates another character with her shapeshifting abilities, she will initially be able to convincingly mimic their personality. Her true nature tends to break through the mimicry, however, as she is often unable to contain her bloodlust, resulting in her  becoming more openly violent and sadistic, invoking threats and fantasies of extreme violence and grotesque brutality before shifting back into her base appearance.
 
Her deranged devotion to Bhaal hides her true desire for acceptance and belonging as she is constantly looking for approval from her father Bhaal. Though uncommon, she extends her admiration to those she respects for being brutal devouts of Bhaal such as Sarevok. Her confident and vicious demeanor shatters, however, when confronted with the truth of her origins, and displays true fear when forced by Bhaal to become his tool instead of doing it willingly.


== History ==
== History ==
Orin was born to [[Sarevok Anchev|Sarevok]] and [[Helena Anchev]], as well granddaughter to Sarevok, who had had incestuous relations with his daughter Helena. Both Orin and Helena worshipped and loved Sarevok, though he mistreated and abused them.
===Bhaalite upbringing===
Raised believing she was fathered by {{CharLink|Bhaal}} himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between {{CharLink|Sarevok Anchev}} and his daughter {{CharLink|Helena Anchev}}, intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|A page from Sarevok's book}} by [[Sarevok Anchev]]}} Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's Chosen.


When Orin was still a child, Sarevok secretly ordered Helena to kill her as an offering to the Lord Bhaal.{{ref|"What better offering to make to our Lord?" - [[Sarevok Anchev]] on Helena's attempted murder}} Desperate to become Bhaal's Chosen, Helena attacked Orin. However, Orin defended herself, and killed her mother instead.
When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.{{ref|[[Bhaal_Temple#The Chosen's Room|Orin's Chambers]], lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.<br>''"I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."''}} Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.{{ref|[[Murder Tribunal]], lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.<br>''"Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found ''exceptional''. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."''}}{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}}}}
Orin served Bhaal directly under the Dark Urge as their second in command, though the two were often at odds about the correct way of offering souls to Bhaal. Orin believed that the Urge mutilated their victims without consideration, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy}} by Orin the Red}} The Urge, on the other hand, understood that Bhaal cared only for the quantity of murder performed in his name, nothing more.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}} by [[The Dark Urge]]}}


Orin served Bhaal directly under [[The Dark Urge]], though the two were at odds on the correct way of offering to him. Orin believed that the Urge "mutilated" their victims, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill. {{ref|''[[Blood-Envy for the Unworthy]]'' - Orin}} The Urge on the other hand, understood that Bhaal only cared for the quantity of murder.
Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed and looked down on by Bhaal and Sarevok alike, Orin brooded as she waited for an opportunity to become her father's favored.{{ref|Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev to the Dark Urge after becoming an Unholy Assassin.<br>''"Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal."''}}


=== Betrayal ===
=== Orin's betrayal ===
Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed by her fathers{{ref|"Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal." - Sarevok Anchev}} and sibling, Orin waited for an opportunity to betray her kin and seize Bhaal's favour for herself.  
The Urge joined forces with {{CharLink|Bane (God)|Bane's}} Chosen {{CharLink|Enver Gortash}}, and together, they formulated a plan to steal the {{SmRarityItem|Crown of Karsus}}, an ancient arcane object of immense power, and subjugate an [[Elder Brain]] with it in order to create a soulless army to destroy the world with.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Scrapbook of Letters}} by The Dark Urge, Enver Gortash}} After recruiting {{CharLink|Ketheric Thorm}}, {{CharLink|Myrkul|Myrkul's}} Chosen, Orin joined the three in the raid to plant the Crown on the brain beneath [[Moonrise Towers]].  


Meanwhile, the Urge joined forces with [[Bane|Bane's]] chosen [[Enver Gortash]], and [[Myrkul|Myrkul's]] chosen [[Ketheric Thorm]], forming the dead three. Using the Crown of Karsus that the Urge and Gortash had stolen from [[Mephistopheles]], they enslaved an [[Elder Brain]] that was hidden beneath [[Moonrise Towers]].
It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an [[Illithid]] tadpole in them.{{ref|[[Morphic Pool]], lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.<br>"''You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."''}}{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda}} by Enver Gortash}} With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Elder Brain Domination}} by Ketheric Thorm}} Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Journal of Enver Gortash}} by Enver Gortash}} At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked {{CharLink|Minthara}} into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert Minthara into a [[True Soul]].


For a time, the Dark Urge was worshipped as a god at Moonrise Towers, but during or soon after a visit to the mind flayer colony beneath the towers, Orin finally saw her chance to betray them. Orin pierced their skull with a dagger and infected them with a modified illithid tadpole, making them the first [[True Soul]] and resulting in the Urge's amnesia. {{Ref|"'' How much the worm has feasted since I slipped it into its skull. All that plotting, the years of dominating this temple - forgotten''" - Orin in the Bhaal Temple confrontation}} She then left them in the Colony, later to be found by [[Kressa Bonedaughter]], or if the Urge is not the player character, tortured and killed them, keeping their corpse for herself.
If the Dark Urge is not chosen as the player character, their corpse will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.{{ref|This corpse uses the [[Dragonborn#White_Dragonborn|White Dragonborn]] form for [[The Dark Urge (origin)|the Dark Urge]], as seen as the in-game default choice for the [[Origin]] and in promotional footage for it.}}


Afterwards, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's chosen and third spoke of the Chosen Three. Yet still striving for regard from Bhaal, Orin proved undisciplined in her role and disliked by the other Chosen.
If the Dark Urge is picked as a player character, they are found by {{CharLink|Kressa Bonedaughter}} instead, saved from death and held captive in the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] for some time as she experiments on them,{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)}} by Balthazar}} until they are shipped away on the [[Nautiloid]] during the [[Prologue]].{{ref|{{SmRarityItem|Journal of Magthew Budj}} by Maghtew Budj}}


== Events of Baldur's Gate 3 ==
== Involvement ==
=== Act One ===
Though Orin is not present in the first act of the game, her involvement in the plot is alluded to when the [[Absolute]] attempts to take over the party's mind and they see a vision of her Chosen shortly before being repelled by the {{SmRarityItem|Mysterious Artefact}}. The player character can also see a vision of her manipulating an enthralled Minthara when first meeting the latter in the [[Shattered Sanctum]].


=== Act Two ===
=== Act Two ===
Orin first appears alongside [[Ketheric Thorm]] and [[Enver Gortash]] in the mind flayer colony underneath [[Moonrise Towers]]. Using [[Orin's Netherstone|her Netherstone]], the Lash of Bhaal, she issues the order to the Netherbrain to march the Absolute's armies on [[Baldur's Gate]].
Orin first appears alongside Ketheric Thorm and Enver Gortash in the Mind Flayer Colony beneath Moonrise Towers. An argument breaks out between Gortash and Ketheric and is stopped from becoming a fight due to her intervention. Having successfully kidnapped {{CharLink|Ulder Ravengard}}, she also takes the opportunity to plant a tadpole in the duke's eye as part of their plan to take over the city. She then joins the other Chosen and uses her {{SmRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone|netherstone}}, ''the Lash of Bhaal'', with them to order the [[Netherbrain]] to march the Absolute's armies on [[Baldur's Gate]].


=== Act Three ===
=== Act Three ===
The player first encounters Orin in the village of [[Rivington]], right before entering Baldur's Gate. As a changeling, she can appear to the player under the guise of several identities (listed [[#Disguises|below]]). She tells the party that she is aware of their goals, even goading the player to be as violent and bloody as they can while they are attempting to obtain the Netherese Stones from her and [[Enver Gortash|Gortash]].
{{main|Get Orin's Netherstone}}
 
After reaching [[Rivington]], the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. If engaged by The Dark Urge, she will reveal their relationship as siblings mockingly and taunt them. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.
 
Gortash may offer an alliance with the party if spoken to before confronting Orin. Tired of her theatrics and unreliability, Gortash will offer to join forces to subdue the Netherbrain for good and rule the [https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_Coast Sword Coast] together if the party slays Orin and brings her netherstone. In order to convince the party, he also reveals that their camp has been compromised by Orin who is masquerading as a party member.{{ref|Although Gortash reveals this, the party is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the Lower City.}} If agreed to, Gortash proves to be true to his word if his conditions are fulfilled.
 
Upon entering the [[Lower City]], Orin will kidnap a member of the party unbeknownst to the rest of the group. Who she kidnaps, when and how it's revealed depends largely on the player character's relationships with their companions. Orin will confront the party and announce that she holds a hostage, demanding they deal with Gortash first and face her in a duel, winner takes all. This encounter initiates {{Quest|Rescue Orin's Victim}}.


== Combat ==
In order to get Orin's netherstone, the group will need to visit the [[Murder Tribunal]] in the [[Undercity Ruins]] as the [[Temple of Bhaal]] is open only to those deemed worthy by Bhaal. At the tribunal, the party is welcomed by Sarevok Anchev. He will reveal how the Bhaalists survived the events of years prior, as well as his connection to Orin as her grandfather. If confronted by The Dark Urge, he further elaborates on Orin's involvement in their fall from Bhaal's grace, excited at the prospect of a Bhaalspawn duel in the ranks of the cult. He will require offer passage to the Temple of Bhaal if the party proves to be worthy by becoming an [[Cult of Bhaal#Unholy Assassins|Unholy Assassin]], which requires impressing the tribunal with a killing prior and then the sacrifice of a celestial being. Alternatively, the party can simply decide to fight Sarevok, a prospect he welcomes eagerly. Either given as a worthy Bhaalite or looted from Sarevok's corpse, with the {{SmRarityItem|Amulet of Bhaal}} in hand, the party can finally confront Orin.
Orin can be fought at the [[Bhaal Temple]] in the [[Undercity Ruins]]. For the fight, she will take the form of the Slayer (see [[Slayer]] for a list of it's attacks).
 
Orin will be found at the Altar of Bhaal, deep within the temple. There, she will be toying with her kidnapping victim surrounded by Bhaalist cultists. When approached, Orin will threaten to kill her hostage, though she can be convinced otherwise through dialogue. The Dark Urge can persuade her to duel them as is bhaalist tradition, to which she will eagerly agree.  


While in Slayer form, she will have [[Slayer's Improved Extra Attack]], allowing her to make two additional attacks after attacking with her main-hand weapon.
Alternatively, if the party used {{SAI|Speak with Dead}} on {{CharLink|Helena Anchev}}'s corpse, they can discover that she betrayed Orin on Sarevok's orders. Revealing this to Orin causes her to completely lose focus on killing her kidnapping victim. If the party then choose dialogue options without ability checks, Orin will become enraged and call on Bhaal's power to transform into the [[Slayer]]. However, the party can also choose to taunt her further by succeeding a {{Ability Check|Deception|25}}, {{Ability Check|Persuasion|25}}, or {{Ability Check|Religion|25}}, which cause Orin to completely break down since she is unable to cope with the truth. Bhaal will then speak to her through the giant skull in the back of the room, commanding her to fight and unnaturally twisting her body to force her into the Slayer form. Regardless of the outcome of the conversation, Orin will attack when it concludes.


In Honour mode, she will have [[Legendary Action: Sanguine Lash]], allowing her to use [[Sanguine Lash]] as a reaction once per round. She will also have [[Legendary Action: Murderous Retort]], which lets her make a reaction when attacked.
Once defeated, the party is able to loot her corpse and find {{SmRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}.


{{SpoilerDurge|If playing as [[the Dark Urge]], and being granted the slayer's form, Orin will instead battle in her humanoid form. Note that when conversing before the fight, the Urge will have the opportunity to transform into the Slayer through dialogue. If this option is taken, they will be able to transform an additional time during combat (if the form is removed), rather than having to wait for a long rest.
== Orin's shapeshifting ==
Orin will use her shapeshifting abilities to harass the party twice, using one of the disguises listed below. Following the second transformation, all further interactions with the NPCs below will be genuine.


While in this form, she will duel-wield  [[Crimson Mischief]] and [[Bloodthirst]]. After attacking five times, she will lose [[Murderous Strikes (Condition)]] and be able to use her [[Deathbringer Assault (Orin)|Deathbringer's Assault]] to attack seven times.
Meeting one of Orin's impersonations for the first time as the {{CharLink|The Dark Urge}} earns the [[Haunted One|Personal Relations]] [[Inspiration|background goal]].


In Honour mode, Orin will use Deathbringers Assault for her reaction with Murderous Retort when it becomes available.
Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.
}}


=== Loot ===
These NPCs, with the exception of the dying Stone Lord thug, can also be 'saved' by not speaking to them until the party reaches Gortash at [[Wyrm's Rock]]. Once Gortash informs them that Orin has compromised their camp by shapeshifting into one of their companions, she will only impersonate the dying Stone Lord thug.
* {{RarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}
* {{RarityItem|Mutilated Carapace}}
* {{RarityItem|Bloodthirst|alias=Netherstone-Pommelled Bloodthirst}} - when picked up becomes:
** {{RarityItem|Bloodthirst}}
** {{RarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}


==Achievements==
Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives (e.g. [[Immutable Form]]), giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats, but will still taunt the party.
{{Achievement|First Blood}}


== Disguises ==
===Disguises===
Orin's shapeshifting allows her to innocuously follow the player as several different characters in the [[Wyrm's Crossing]] area. Among her disguises are:
* {{MdCharLink|Gyldro Angleiron}}, a blacksmith in the [[Rivington General]].
* [[Zethino]], the fey Master of Love at the [[Circus of the Last Days]].
* {{MdCharLink|Lens}}, a journalist for the [[Baldur's Mouth|Baldur's Mouth Gazette]] in Baldur's Gate.
* [[Fist Rowan]], a member of the [[Flaming Fist]] standing near the back of the donation barn.
* {{MdCharLink|Rowan}}, a member of the [[Flaming Fist]] standing near the back of the donation barn in Rivington.
* [[Lens]], a tiefling journalist.
* {{MdCharLink|Dying Stone Lord Thug}} near the [[Western Beach]] in Rivington.
* [[Gyldro Angleiron]], a blacksmith in the Rivington General.
* {{MdCharLink|Zethino}}, the fey Master of Love at the [[Circus of the Last Days]] in Rivington.
* A wounded thug of the Stone Lord.


Once the player triggers two of Orin's transformations from the list above, all other potential disguises will be the actual NPCs henceforth.
== Combat ==
{{Main|Orin/Combat}}


<gallery widths="300" heights="200">
Orin serves as one of the main antagonists of Act 3 of the game alongside {{CharLink|Enver Gortash}}. Her defeat is required before facing the final threat of the game: {{CharLink|The Netherbrain}}.
Fist Rowan.jpg|Orin masquerading as Rowan, a Flaming Fist
Gyldro Smith.jpg|Orin impersonating Gyldro, a smith
Lens Journalist.jpg|Orin posing as a journalist named Lens
Dying Thug.jpg|Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord Thug
</gallery>


==Gallery==
=== Loot ===
<gallery heights="200">
* {{MdRarityItem|Altar Key}}
Edward-vanderghote-orin.webp|Character portrait by Edward Vanderghote.
* {{MdRarityItem|Bloodthirst|alias=Netherstone-Pommelled Bloodthirst}} – separates on pick-up into:
Orin with Laezel Captive.jpg|Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.
** {{MdRarityItem|Bloodthirst}}
Orin Overhead Shot.jpg|''"Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."''
** {{MdRarityItem|Orin's Netherstone}}
Orin_Model.png|Orin's model.
* {{MdRarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}
</gallery>
* {{MdRarityItem|Mutilated Carapace}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Ring of Murderous Opportunity}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Studded Leather Armour +2}}
==Related Quests==
* {{Quest|Get Orin's Netherstone}}
** {{SubQuest|Impress the Murder Tribunal}}
** {{SubQuest|Investigate the Murders}}
** {{SubQuest|Rescue Orin's Victim}}
* {{Quest|The Urge}}


== Related literature ==
== Related literature ==
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* {{MdRarityItem|Manifesto|override_icon=Book Hermit D Item Icon.png}}
* {{MdRarityItem|A Plan for Chaos}}
* {{MdRarityItem|A page from Sarevok's book}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Abazigal, the Fourth}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Amelyssan, the Sixth}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Assassin's Instructions}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Balthazar, the Fifth}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Beheading the Bitterroots}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Bloodied Note}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Bloody Message}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers)}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Concerning Orin the Red}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Blood-Envy for the Unworthy}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Crumpled Note Scrawled in Blood}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Experiment on Cruor}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Experiment on Cruor}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Illasera, the First}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Letter from Orin}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Letter with Sticky Red Blots}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Manifesto}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Sendai, the Third}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Strangely Scented Note}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Strike in Bhaal's Name!}}
* {{MdRarityItem|Yaga-Shura, the Second}}
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==Achievements==
{{Achievement|First Blood}}
==Gallery==
<gallery heights="250">
Orin_Model.png|In-Game Model
Edward-vanderghote-orin.webp|Character portrait by Edward Vanderghote.
Orin the Red.jpg|Cinematic shot
Orin with Laezel Captive.jpg|Orin standing over a captive Lae'zel companion.
Orin Overhead Shot.jpg|''"Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose."''
Fist Rowan.jpg|Orin masquerading as Fist Rowan.
Gyldro Smith.jpg|Orin impersonating Gyldro Angleiron.
Lens Journalist.jpg|Orin posing as Lens the journalist.
Dying Thug.jpg|Orin pretending to be a dying Stone Lord thug.
</gallery>


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
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* It's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin, they'll be level 12, though not have the large amount of hit points that come with that level, and have Legendary Resistance: Incapacitation.
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* Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.
* At launch, the party could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''', a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of [[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin, by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle. This seems to have been fixed since.
* When a disguised Orin has been identified the player can attack the NPC. This will skip the NPC's dialogue and go straight to Orin's reveal who will vanish without giving her normal lines about [[Gortash]]. Even if the attack would have killed the NPC, Orin herself doesn't die.
* If not saving [[Zevlor]] at the [[Mind Flayer Colony]] in [[Act 2]], the party will be presented with his corpse sitting in front of canvas, containing the [[Grand Infernal Painting]], which depicts Orin slaying Zevlor in a Bhaalistic ritual. This will only appear in [[Act 3]] following a long rest.
* Orin's kidnapping and impersonation event during the quest [[Rescue Orin's Victim]] is not fully random; it appears to follow a priority system among the companions left in camp (that is, companions not in your active party), prioritizing companions that have the lowest approval with the player, from a list of 3 possible kidnapping victims: [[Lae'zel]], [[Gale]], and [[Halsin]] (or [[Minthara]]). She will not kidnap a romanced companion. If none of these companions are available, she instead kidnaps [[Yenna]].
* At launch, the player could temporarily obtain '''Blade of the First Blood''' (a [[Shortswords|Shortsword]] version of {{SmallIcon|Bloodthirst Icon.png}}[[Bloodthirst]] wielded by Orin) by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle, but this appears to have been fixed. {{verify}}
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== References ==
== References ==
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== External links ==
== External links ==
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* {{FRWiki|Orin|long}}
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* {{FRWiki|Bhaal|long}}
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* {{FRWiki|Chosen|long}}


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Latest revision as of 21:12, 20 September 2024

Orin the Red is the Chosen of Bhaal Bhaal and one of the leaders of the enigmatic Cult of the Absolute and serves as one of the main antagonists in Baldur's Gate 3.

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Come to me, Father. Set my flesh to your unholy purpose.
Orin the Red about Bhaal

Overview[edit | edit source]

A daughter of Bhaalspawns and a devout practitioner in the arts of murder and pain, Orin has painted the streets red in her father's name for many years. Still to be caught thanks to her shapeshifting abilities, she now prepares to make out of Baldur's Gate the biggest bloody offering to her father yet.

Background[edit | edit source]

Hinted at first through notes, she is properly introduced at the end of Act 2 as one of the conspirators of the cult along with Ketheric Thorm Ketheric Thorm and Enver Gortash Enver Gortash. Through cunning and murderous devotion, she and her allies have established a solid Bhaalite foothold in the city of Baldur's Gate. Now, empowered by a netherstone and with cult's plans in motion, she intends to paint the city crimson with blood in a mighty offering to Bhaal.

Gameplay[edit | edit source]

  • Orin is a level 12 Changeling boss and one of the main antagonists in the game.
  • First mentioned in Act 1, she is introduced in Act 2, and properly encountered and fought in Act 3.
  • Fighting her is required in order to obtain her Netherstone and proceed with the story.
  • In combat, she uses her deadly powers given by Bhaal himself to deal large amounts of damage quickly while being supported by her cultists.
  • Her encounter can go different ways depending on the choices made by the party and whether or not the player character is the The Dark Urge The Dark Urge.
  • A cease of hostilities with her and her Bhaalites can be brokered if agreed to slay Gortash first.
  • She can trick the party with her disguises and will kidnap someone important to the party.

Appearance[edit | edit source]

Orin has pale blue-grey skin with swirling, smoke-like plumes of red undulating across it. Her eyes are dull grey, contoured by dark eyeliner, giving her an intimidating look. Her straw-colored, braided hair falls to the backs of her knees in a fastening reminiscent of a flail. Her armour is bright blood-red, rigid and rough like chitin. She adorns her head with an ornate silver tiara with the centerpiece shaped in the form of a person supplicant, a single crimson gem giving her appearance some color.

Personality[edit | edit source]

Orin is cruel and sadistic, but artistic and creative in her own twisted way.[1] Her demeanour is immature and almost childish; Orin easily loses her composure when things do not go her way, enacts small rebellions against the authority figures in her life, and enjoys, in a arguably playful way, toying with her victims.[2] She derives sadistic pleasure from taunting her victims with the gory details of her deeds.

When she impersonates another character with her shapeshifting abilities, she will initially be able to convincingly mimic their personality. Her true nature tends to break through the mimicry, however, as she is often unable to contain her bloodlust, resulting in her becoming more openly violent and sadistic, invoking threats and fantasies of extreme violence and grotesque brutality before shifting back into her base appearance.

Her deranged devotion to Bhaal hides her true desire for acceptance and belonging as she is constantly looking for approval from her father Bhaal. Though uncommon, she extends her admiration to those she respects for being brutal devouts of Bhaal such as Sarevok. Her confident and vicious demeanor shatters, however, when confronted with the truth of her origins, and displays true fear when forced by Bhaal to become his tool instead of doing it willingly.

History[edit | edit source]

Bhaalite upbringing[edit | edit source]

Raised believing she was fathered by Bhaal Bhaal himself, Orin was in truth born of an incestuous relationship between Sarevok Anchev Sarevok Anchev and his daughter Helena Anchev Helena Anchev, intended to be the perfect offering to the Dread Lord.[3] Though he routinely mistreated and abused them, both Helena and Orin worshipped and loved Sarevok, enduring the hardships of growing up as a Bhaalite. Orin received the bloody teachings of Bhaal, becoming in time the youngest Unholy Assassin to follow the steps of god of Murder. Such was her gift in killing that she was anointed Bhaal's Chosen.

When Orin was still a child, Sarevok, knowing Helena desired to be Bhaal's Chosen, ordered his daughter to kill Orin as an offering to Bhaal.[4] Helena attacked Orin but she was overcome by her child who ultimately cut her down. Bhaal deemed the young changeling exceptional, and ordered Sarevok to look after her henceforth.[5][6] Orin served Bhaal directly under the Dark Urge as their second in command, though the two were often at odds about the correct way of offering souls to Bhaal. Orin believed that the Urge mutilated their victims without consideration, and what their Father truly wanted was beauty and consideration in the kill.[7] The Urge, on the other hand, understood that Bhaal cared only for the quantity of murder performed in his name, nothing more.[8]

Yearning for respect and status, but dismissed and looked down on by Bhaal and Sarevok alike, Orin brooded as she waited for an opportunity to become her father's favored.[9]

Orin's betrayal[edit | edit source]

The Urge joined forces with Bane (God) Bane's Chosen Enver Gortash Enver Gortash, and together, they formulated a plan to steal the Crown of Karsus, an ancient arcane object of immense power, and subjugate an Elder Brain with it in order to create a soulless army to destroy the world with.[10] After recruiting Ketheric Thorm Ketheric Thorm, Myrkul Myrkul's Chosen, Orin joined the three in the raid to plant the Crown on the brain beneath Moonrise Towers.

It was during this time that Orin saw her opportunity and struck, driving a dagger through the Urge's skull and planting an Illithid tadpole in them.[11][12] With her former rival left to die and a tadpole devouring their brain, Orin took the Urge's place as Bhaal's Chosen and third member of the conspirators.[13] Orin would prove undisciplined in her role, however, as her bloodlust could not be contained, and rapidly grew to be disliked by the other two who saw her as little more than a necessary nuisance to their plan.[14] At some point between the betrayal and the events of the game, Ketheric and Orin tricked Minthara Minthara into a trap where she murdered her allies and captured her. She then used a tadpole to convert Minthara into a True Soul.

If the Dark Urge is not chosen as the player character, their corpse will be found in Orin's chamber during Act 3, tortured to death by their sister.[15]

If the Dark Urge is picked as a player character, they are found by Kressa Bonedaughter Kressa Bonedaughter instead, saved from death and held captive in the Mind Flayer Colony for some time as she experiments on them,[16] until they are shipped away on the Nautiloid during the Prologue.[17]

Involvement[edit | edit source]

Act One[edit | edit source]

Though Orin is not present in the first act of the game, her involvement in the plot is alluded to when the Absolute attempts to take over the party's mind and they see a vision of her Chosen shortly before being repelled by the Mysterious Artefact. The player character can also see a vision of her manipulating an enthralled Minthara when first meeting the latter in the Shattered Sanctum.

Act Two[edit | edit source]

Orin first appears alongside Ketheric Thorm and Enver Gortash in the Mind Flayer Colony beneath Moonrise Towers. An argument breaks out between Gortash and Ketheric and is stopped from becoming a fight due to her intervention. Having successfully kidnapped Ulder Ravengard Ulder Ravengard, she also takes the opportunity to plant a tadpole in the duke's eye as part of their plan to take over the city. She then joins the other Chosen and uses her netherstone, the Lash of Bhaal, with them to order the Netherbrain to march the Absolute's armies on Baldur's Gate.

Act Three[edit | edit source]

Main article: Get Orin's Netherstone

After reaching Rivington, the party will encounter Orin in person for the first time. She will reveal that she is aware of their objective to gather the netherstones and confront her and Gortash, and threatens that she will be following them, watching every step they take before disappearing once more. If engaged by The Dark Urge, she will reveal their relationship as siblings mockingly and taunt them. From then on, she will begin harassing the party by using her changeling abilities to shapeshift into different characters. When speaking with these seemingly innocuous characters, the conversation will slowly turn more violent until Orin drops the disguise to goad the party into a bloody encounter with her.

Gortash may offer an alliance with the party if spoken to before confronting Orin. Tired of her theatrics and unreliability, Gortash will offer to join forces to subdue the Netherbrain for good and rule the Sword Coast together if the party slays Orin and brings her netherstone. In order to convince the party, he also reveals that their camp has been compromised by Orin who is masquerading as a party member.[18] If agreed to, Gortash proves to be true to his word if his conditions are fulfilled.

Upon entering the Lower City, Orin will kidnap a member of the party unbeknownst to the rest of the group. Who she kidnaps, when and how it's revealed depends largely on the player character's relationships with their companions. Orin will confront the party and announce that she holds a hostage, demanding they deal with Gortash first and face her in a duel, winner takes all. This encounter initiates Rescue Orin's Victim Rescue Orin's Victim.

In order to get Orin's netherstone, the group will need to visit the Murder Tribunal in the Undercity Ruins as the Temple of Bhaal is open only to those deemed worthy by Bhaal. At the tribunal, the party is welcomed by Sarevok Anchev. He will reveal how the Bhaalists survived the events of years prior, as well as his connection to Orin as her grandfather. If confronted by The Dark Urge, he further elaborates on Orin's involvement in their fall from Bhaal's grace, excited at the prospect of a Bhaalspawn duel in the ranks of the cult. He will require offer passage to the Temple of Bhaal if the party proves to be worthy by becoming an Unholy Assassin, which requires impressing the tribunal with a killing prior and then the sacrifice of a celestial being. Alternatively, the party can simply decide to fight Sarevok, a prospect he welcomes eagerly. Either given as a worthy Bhaalite or looted from Sarevok's corpse, with the Amulet of Bhaal in hand, the party can finally confront Orin.

Orin will be found at the Altar of Bhaal, deep within the temple. There, she will be toying with her kidnapping victim surrounded by Bhaalist cultists. When approached, Orin will threaten to kill her hostage, though she can be convinced otherwise through dialogue. The Dark Urge can persuade her to duel them as is bhaalist tradition, to which she will eagerly agree.

Alternatively, if the party used Speak with Dead Speak with Dead on Helena Anchev Helena Anchev's corpse, they can discover that she betrayed Orin on Sarevok's orders. Revealing this to Orin causes her to completely lose focus on killing her kidnapping victim. If the party then choose dialogue options without ability checks, Orin will become enraged and call on Bhaal's power to transform into the Slayer. However, the party can also choose to taunt her further by succeeding a DC 25 Deception check, DC 25 Persuasion check, or DC 25 Religion check, which cause Orin to completely break down since she is unable to cope with the truth. Bhaal will then speak to her through the giant skull in the back of the room, commanding her to fight and unnaturally twisting her body to force her into the Slayer form. Regardless of the outcome of the conversation, Orin will attack when it concludes.

Once defeated, the party is able to loot her corpse and find Orin's Netherstone.

Orin's shapeshifting[edit | edit source]

Orin will use her shapeshifting abilities to harass the party twice, using one of the disguises listed below. Following the second transformation, all further interactions with the NPCs below will be genuine.

Meeting one of Orin's impersonations for the first time as the The Dark Urge The Dark Urge earns the Personal Relations background goal.

Orin can only be at one place at a time: if a disguised Orin stays in the visual range of a party member she can't take the appearance of other NPCs elsewhere and thus is effectively pinned in place. This way it's possible to talk to the other genuine NPCs without triggering Orin's apparitions.

These NPCs, with the exception of the dying Stone Lord thug, can also be 'saved' by not speaking to them until the party reaches Gortash at Wyrm's Rock. Once Gortash informs them that Orin has compromised their camp by shapeshifting into one of their companions, she will only impersonate the dying Stone Lord thug.

Lastly, it's possible to identify when an NPC is actually Orin as they'll be level 12, though without the large amount of hit points that would be expected from that level. When examined, these NPCs can be observed to have Orin's passives (e.g. Immutable Form), giving away their true identity. If attacked straight away, Orin will transform and disappear without her usual threats, but will still taunt the party.

Disguises[edit | edit source]

Combat[edit | edit source]

Main article: Orin/Combat

Orin serves as one of the main antagonists of Act 3 of the game alongside Enver Gortash Enver Gortash. Her defeat is required before facing the final threat of the game: The Netherbrain The Netherbrain.

Loot[edit | edit source]

Related Quests[edit | edit source]

Related literature[edit | edit source]

Achievements[edit | edit source]

A-First Blood.jpg

First Blood
Kill Orin while her cultists are performing their ritual chant.

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

  • At launch, the party could temporarily obtain Blade of the First Blood, a Shortsword version of Bloodthirst wielded by Orin, by killing Orin and looting her before the end of the battle. This seems to have been fixed since.
  • If not saving Zevlor at the Mind Flayer Colony in Act 2, the party will be presented with his corpse sitting in front of canvas, containing the Grand Infernal Painting, which depicts Orin slaying Zevlor in a Bhaalistic ritual. This will only appear in Act 3 following a long rest.

References[edit | edit source]

  1. Concerning Orin the Red by The Dark Urge
  2. Experiment on Cruor by Orin the Red
  3. A page from Sarevok's book by Sarevok Anchev
  4. Orin's Chambers, lines spoken by Helena Anchev when asked how she died.
    "I... wanted... to be... Bhaal's... Chosen... Sarevok... told me... she... must be... my... offering..."
  5. Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev when discussing Orin.
    "Orin's gifts surpassed even her mother's. (...) When Orin was but seven years old, she tried to smother the child as an offering to our Lord. (...) It was her mother's blood that soaked the sheets. Orin had cut off the very hand that tried to end her. (...) This was Orin's tribunal. She was judged, and she was found exceptional. My Lord made his choice - I abided by his words."
  6. Concerning Orin the Red
  7. Blood-Envy for the Unworthy by Orin the Red
  8. Concerning Orin the Red by The Dark Urge
  9. Murder Tribunal, lines spoken by Sarevok Anchev to the Dark Urge after becoming an Unholy Assassin.
    "Cleanse the temple of Orin's girlish shrines and bring your primal slaughter back to Bhaal."
  10. Scrapbook of Letters by The Dark Urge, Enver Gortash
  11. Morphic Pool, lines spoken by the Netherbrain when confronted by the Dark Urge and their companions.
    "You placed the Crown upon me in the depths of Moonrise Towers, and there I was born. (...) Your plan was devious, your cruelty unparalleled. I would have followed it, were your mind not destroyed by your sister."
  12. Memoir Notes with Recent Addenda by Enver Gortash
  13. Elder Brain Domination by Ketheric Thorm
  14. Journal of Enver Gortash by Enver Gortash
  15. This corpse uses the White Dragonborn form for the Dark Urge, as seen as the in-game default choice for the Origin and in promotional footage for it.
  16. Clasped Book (Moonrise Towers) by Balthazar
  17. Journal of Magthew Budj by Maghtew Budj
  18. Although Gortash reveals this, the party is unable to act on this information as the actual replacement does not happen until Orin reveals it herself in the Lower City.

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