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Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.

Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.

Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.

The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.

For more information about the approval system, see Approval.

Greetings

Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:

Negative (<0):

  • "What do you want?"
  • "What?"
  • "What is it?"

Neutral (0 - 29):

  • "Something the matter?"

After learning about Sharran worship:

  • "May the darkness protect you."
  • "Shar's blessing upon you."
  • "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"

Medium and up (30+):

  • "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
  • "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
  • "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."

When spoken to by someone other than the player character:

  • "I don't answer to you - move along."

Romance

Flirting - 20+ approval:

  • "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
  • "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
  • "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
  • "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"

Flirting - Low approval:

  • "Hmm. You wanted something?"
  • "In need of attention, I take it?"
  • "Oh, you're back."
  • "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"

Partnered

  • "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
  • "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
  • "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
  • "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"

Partnered - Low approval:

  • "I hope this is important."
  • "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
  • "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
  • "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
  • "Yes?"

Broken Up - 40+ approval:

  • "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
  • "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
  • "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
  • "What can I do for you?"

Broken Up - Low approval:

  • "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
  • "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
  • "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
  • "Spit it out then."
  • "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."

Approval

As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.

Act One

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Act Two

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Ruined Battlefield
If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Rosymorn Monastery Trail:

  • Order Warrior Gronag to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena.
  • Convince Kar'niss the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him.
  • Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy, protect them from ambushing Harpers, and then:
  • When judging with He Who Was, order Madeline to stab herself, then to continue , and finally succeed a Persuasion roll to keep her going .

Last Light Inn

  • Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to Jaheira inside. Shadowheart approves +1
  • Tell Isobel that Marcus plans to kidnap her when he attacks the Last Light Inn.
  • Talking to the Strange Ox, promise to keep its secret Shadowheart approves +1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then deny the urge, and finally ask her to forgive you.

Reithwin Town

  • Agree to help Arabella find her parents. Shadowheart approves +1
  • Agree to take Arabella in at your camp. Shadowheart approves +1

In the House of Healing:

  • Convince Malus Thorm to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.Shadowheart approves +1
  • OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. Shadowheart approves +1 (comes one point by another subsequently).

In the Reithwin Tollhouse:

At The Waning Moon:

  • Safely drink with Thisobald Thorm (rolling Saving Throw, either general or class-based) up to three times total Shadowheart approves +1(each time)
    • OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling Sleight of Hand) Shadowheart approves +1 (gains approval only in first round)
  • Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through Performance roll), up to two times Shadowheart approves +1 (each time) .

Note: If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent Deception roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.

  • By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst Shadowheart approves +1

In Sharran Sanctuary under the town square:

  • Perform the blood offering at the secret altar to Shar

House in Deep Shadows

  • Agree to play hide-and-seek with Oliver

Gauntlet of Shar

When dealing with Yurgir:

  • Talk to Yurgir about his pact, pass a passive Insight check and then three subsequent Persuasion checks to make him kill Merregons, his Displacer Beast Nessa, and finally off himself. Shadowheart approves +1
  • If you agreed to help Yurgir, detect thoughts on the Hoarding Merregon and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa.Shadowheart approves +1
  • Agree to peace with the rats after interacting with the broken effigy
  • Offer peace when speaking directly with Lyrthindor after interacting with the effigy and defeating the rat horde
  • After prying into her mind while she prays, say "Let's move on" Shadowheart approves +5

In Shadowfell

  • Select the option to Let Shadowheart do as she will. Do not interfere.

Moonrise Towers

  • Use Persuasion when Disciple Z'rell asks you to explain yourself, and that the goblins won't get far (if you let the goblins run free earlier)
  • Tell Ketheric Thorm you can help him, that it isn't too late, or to come quietly
  • Tell Dame Aylin that Ketheric Thorm has surrendered.

Mind Flayer Colony

  • At the Tadpoling Centre, use the Neural Apparatus to release the inhabitants of the pods

Camp/Conversation

  • Give Shadowheart a Night Orchid
  • When Shadowheart (Selûnite) asks you what you think of her new look, tell her if it helps her put the past behind her that you're all for it.

Act Three

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Rivington

  • As the Dark Urge, tell Gyldro Angleiron that you do all you can to keep your loved ones safe from your blade.
  • Tell Wulbren you'll take the runepowder bomb but only use it as a last resort.
  • Tell Shirra Clarwen "Gods, no. I don't want to inherit your curse."
  • In the kennels of the Sword Coast Couriers, successfully intimidate angry Mar'hyah when she threatens Scratch, saying you'll break her bones before you let her hurt him.
  • In the kennels of the Sword Coast Couriers, successfully intimidate angry Mar'hyah to quit her job after Dringo tells you she's hurting the other dogs.

In the Circus of the Last Days:

  • After Dribbles tells his joke about scarecrows, say that the joke was corny, or boo him off the stage.
  • When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:
    • First question: 'Good company', OR 'Night itself', OR 'That she can change' Shadowheart approves +1 (either; the latter available if she denied Shar [Needs Verification])
    • Second question: 'Being discreet' Shadowheart approves +2, OR 'Shrewd judgement' Shadowheart approves +1
    • Third question: 'She doesn't know…', OR 'She can't swim', OR 'Sacrifice an innocent', OR 'Failing her goddess' Shadowheart approves +1 (either; the latter available if she denied Shar)
  • In the Circus of the Last Days, talk to Dribbles' doppelganger and as a Druid, say that what makes you special is your animal transformation capabilities.

Wyrm's Crossing

The Blushing Mermaid

  • When speaking to Hag, say “No - surrender the child immediately". Shadowheart approves +1

Baldur's Mouth

  • Tell Ettvard Needle "If anything bad is printed about me, I'll leak this letter to you from Lord Gortash". Shadowheart approves +1

Murder Tribunal

  • After becoming an Unholy Assassin, tell the Echo of Illasera "Can't be that quick if someone cut you down." Shadowheart approves +1

House of Hope

  • Tell Hope you aren't telling her anything when she says she wants to ask a question. Shadowheart approves +1
  • Successfully read the Archivist's thoughts then decieve him by telling him you're Zariel's High Inquisitor. Shadowheart approves +1

House of Grief

  • Let her participate in the Mapping of the Heart. Shadowheart approves +5
  • (Sharran) Tell the cloister how Shar has blessed her. Shadowheart approves +5
  • (Sharran) Give her a chance to sway more of Viconia's followers. Shadowheart approves +1

Crimson Draughts

Chromatic Scale

  • As a Bard, talk to Thomas C. Quirkilious and ask him what the benefits of using lute strings made of worg hair are. Shadowheart approves +1

Camp/Conversation

  • When Lae'zel is threatened by Vlaakith, tell her to stand her ground and not to fall for Vlaakith's lies.

Disapproval

As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.

Act One

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Ravaged Beach

  • Threaten Astarion in your first encounter with him

Roadside Cliffs

  • Attack the Tieflings holding Lae'zel in a cage Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Persuade the Tieflings to shoot open the cage Shadowheart approves +1 and then attack them Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Recruit Lae'zel into the party Shadowheart disapproves -5

Emerald Grove/The Hollow

  • As Dark Urge, when you are confronted by a companion about kicking Timber, say she came right at you OR that your instincts are sharp and to stay out of the way Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Make Zorru bow to Lae'zel Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Make Zorru kneel before Lae'zel Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • After the conversation with Zorru tell Lae'zel that she is good at interrogations Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Tell Auntie Ethel about the tadpole

While the Druid Grove is preparing for the goblin attack

  • Tell Zevlor (or Asharak if Zevlor is dead) that you are here to take the grove for the goblins/are here with the goblins Shadowheart disapproves -1

Forest

  • While talking to Aradin on the bridge, say a prayer over the corpses as a cleric Selune Shadowheart disapproves -1

Owlbear Nest

  • Choose to go closer to the Owlbear cub or attack the Owlbear Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • After killing the Owlbear, kill its cub as well Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Unsuccessfully try to persuade or intimidate Shadowheart into looting the Selunite chest Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Loot the Selunite chest and fail the Sleight of Hand if you agreed not to or wasn't able to talk her into letting you do it Shadowheart disapproves -2

Sunlit Wetlands/Putrid Bog

  • While talking to Demir and Johl after Ethel disappears, offer to help them find their sister Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Agree to Auntie Ethel's deal Shadowheart disapproves -1

Blighted Village

  • Select the option to attack Fezzerk and the goblins by the windmill Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Interrupt the bugbear and ogre lovers in the barn Shadowheart disapproves -1

Goblin Camp

  • Play the War Drum at the front gate Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Take her to the Chicken Chase in the Goblin Camp, and tell her not to be hasty
  • Telling Brakkal that Gods are fickle

In the Shattered Sanctum:

The Risen Road

  • Agree to hunt the monster (Karlach) for Anders
  • Agree to fight the gnolls to save Rugan

Zhentarim Hideout

  • If you agree to pay the extra 200 gold to the artist Oskar Fevras after you free him

Grymforge

  • Decide to attack Morghal and Orgath.
  • Express contempt on the dead, skeletal Dark Justiciars Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Instigate a fight against Elder Brithvar by either taunting him to take your gold or suggesting involving Sergeant Thrinn in the conspiracy against Nere

Creche Y'llek

Camp/Conversation

  • Tell Astarion you trust him
  • During her romance scene, succeed the Insight check, and then select "Let the moment pass"
  • Insist on continuing to use the tadpole's power after the second dream
  • When Kith'rak Voss wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the Mysterious Artefact (after the events at the Crèche), tell Lae'zel to kill him Shadowheart approves +1 (starts the fight with the githyanki knight)
  • Letting Volo follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite
  • Playing as Astarion, after being caught biting:
    • Fail the check to explain why you didn't reveal your vampirism to Shadowheart Shadowheart disapproves -1
    • Tell her that holding secrets keeps you safe Shadowheart disapproves -5
    • Swear that you are not a vampire after being caught biting Shadowheart disapproves -10

Raphael's deal

  • Tell her you trust Raphael Shadowheart disapproves -5

Personal quest

  • Fail to read her mind on why she is against Selune Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Tell her to leave after she tells of her worship of Shar Shadowheart disapproves -5 (Shadowheart permanently leaves the party)


Act Two

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Ruined Battlefield

  • When judging with He Who Was, choose any response to Madeline, that judges her actions; either that she is not to be forgiven or that it wasn't her fault (formulation of answer is based on class).
  • When judging with He Who Was, choose to stop Madeline from stabbing herself.

Last Light Inn

Reithwin Tollhouse

Sharran Sanctuary

Gauntlet of Shar

  • Near the Pedestal of Reckoning, tell Shadowheart that passing Shar's trials is a distraction OR that you're here only to uncover Ketheric's secrets Shadowheart disapproves -5 (either)
  • Lick the dead spider Shadowheart disapproves -1
    • Lick the dead spider again Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Feel inside Shadowheart's mind at the Verge of the Shadows Shadowheart disapproves -1
    • Tell her to "forget it" Shadowheart disapproves -5
  • Say you're uniquely good at tracking things down when persuading Yurgir
  • Tell Lyrthindor the world is better off without Shar worshippers Shadowheart disapproves -1

Mind Flayer Colony

  • Use the Neural Apparatus to purge everyone in the Tadpoling Centre
  • Choosing to consume, rather than purge, the Waking Mind

Act Three

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Rivington

  • Refusing to help Yenna when she first approaches the party. Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • When Wulbren is offering you the runepowder bomb, say "Gortash is the enemy - not the Gondians. I'll find another way."
  • When trying to get into Wyrm's Crossing, get ready to fight the Steel Watcher at the gate after allowing it to inspect you. Shadowheart disapproves -1

Circus of the Last Days

  • When prompted for a special assistant by Dribbles the Clown, choose Shadowheart. Shadowheart disapproves -1
    • Encourage her immediately afterwards by saying "Go on, Shadowheart!" Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:
    • First question: 'Judging others' OR 'A blanket' Shadowheart disapproves -1 (either)
    • Second question: 'Fart on a Selunite' Shadowheart disapproves -1
    • Third question: 'Her hair' Shadowheart disapproves -1

Wyrm's Crossing

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

  • Refuse twice to give Gortash the Netherstones. Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Intimidate Fist Reynash into handing over everything he stole before fleeing. Shadowheart disapproves -1

Flymm Cargo

Sorcerous Sundries

Cazador's Dungeon

Murder Tribunal

  • When speaking to Sarevok on how you acquired the hands of your murder victims, truthfully say "With a smile on my face, and pleasure in my heart" or "slowly and painfully, I savoured every scream". Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Tell the Echo of Amelyssan "Every kill is euphoria". Shadowheart disapproves -1

Bhaal Temple

  • Letting Orin kill her kidnapped victim by telling her "Go ahead, I won't stop you". Shadowheart disapproves -5

The Blushing Mermaid

  • When speaking to Hag, say “That’s so evil, even I’m impressed”. Shadowheart disapproves -1
  • Accept the Hag's offer to become your ally. Shadowheart disapproves -1

The streets of Baldur's Gate

Camp/Conversation

  • Tell Wyll to "Break the pact" or "Let your father die." Shadowheart disapproves -1