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Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | ||
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* "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | * "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | ||
Neutral (0 - | Neutral (0 - 19): | ||
* "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | * "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | ||
* “Yes?" | * “Yes?" | ||
* “Need Something?” | * “Need Something?” | ||
Medium and up ( | Medium and up (20+): | ||
* "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | * "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | ||
* "Hello, my dear." | * "Hello, my dear." | ||
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* "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | * "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | ||
===After | ===After Completing The Pale Elf=== | ||
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'''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | '''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | ||
* Attack the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage after initiating dialogue. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Attack the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage after initiating dialogue. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after | * Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after convincing the tieflings to leave. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' 'Attack' '' dialogue option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' 'Attack' '' dialogue option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR Playing as a [[Rogue]], tell her to stop bargaining about the idol {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Playing as a [[Rogue]], tell her to stop bargaining about the idol {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'' | ''Resolving Arabella's fate:'' | ||
* Tell [[Kagha]] that you would have killed [[Arabella]] outright. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Kagha]] that you would have killed [[Arabella]] outright. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell her you just wanted to see what would happen. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell her you just wanted to see what would happen. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR Attack her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Attack her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If [[Arabella]] has died, lie to [[Locke]] and [[Komira]] that [[Kagha]] will release her soon. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If [[Arabella]] has died, lie to [[Locke]] and [[Komira]] that [[Kagha]] will release her soon. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When confronting [[Kagha]] about the [[Shadow Druids]], choose to attack her instead of persuading her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When confronting [[Kagha]] about the [[Shadow Druids]], choose to attack her instead of persuading her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR If tried to persuade [[Kagha]] to fight against Shadow Druids and failed, attack her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR If tried to persuade [[Kagha]] to fight against Shadow Druids and failed, attack her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Interrupt the bugbear and ogre in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Interrupt the bugbear and ogre in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The latter option is available only if either [[Shadowheart]] or [[Wyll]] '''are not''' in the party, otherwise one of them would interfere and try to stop the player'' | |||
* After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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''In the infirmary:'' | ''In the infirmary:'' | ||
* If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | * If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | ||
** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check| | ** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check|Perception|14}}, then succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|30}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|30}})''. | ||
** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ||
''In the hatchery:'' | ''In the hatchery:'' | ||
* Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* When [[Kith'rak Voss]] wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the [[Mysterious Artefact]] (after the events at the Crèche), tell [[Lae'zel]] to kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the fight with the githyanki knight)'' | * When [[Kith'rak Voss]] wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the [[Mysterious Artefact]] (after the events at the Crèche), tell [[Lae'zel]] to kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the fight with the githyanki knight)'' | ||
* Threaten to kill [[Mizora]] during her first appearance in the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Threaten to kill [[Mizora]] during her first appearance in the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Agree with Astarion that using illithid powers to manipulate others could be useful. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} '' | * Agree with Astarion that using illithid powers to manipulate others could be useful. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only after using 'illithid' line for the first time in a conversation''. | |||
''During celebration at the camp:'' | ''During celebration at the camp:'' | ||
* Agree to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Agree to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
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* Convince the hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince the hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Order [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Kar'niss]] the drider they are amazing after watching them berate a goblin who "fed the shadows" | * <u>Tell</u> [[Kar'niss]] the drider they are amazing after watching them berate a goblin who "fed the shadows" | ||
* Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them and maintain your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them and maintain your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* When talking to [[Dolly Thrice]], ignore the pixie two times and keep the lantern. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When talking to [[Dolly Thrice]], ignore the pixie two times and keep the lantern. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When judging with [[He Who Was]], order [[Madeline]] to stab herself, then to continue {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | * When judging with [[He Who Was]], order [[Madeline]] to stab herself, then to continue {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | ||
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* Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to [[Jaheira]] inside. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to [[Jaheira]] inside. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
* Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you're '''not playing''' as [[The Dark Urge]] AND if you '''haven't seen''' his scars prior'' | |||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Isobel]] to 'follow the winged freak' (i.e. [[Marcus]]). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Isobel]] to 'follow the winged freak' (i.e. [[Marcus]]). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell [[Isobel]] that your blood orders you to kill her, then deny the urge, and apologise {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* After [[Mol]] is taken during the assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After [[Mol]] is taken during the assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* While talking to [[His Majesty]] via [[Speak with Animals]]:'' | * While talking to [[His Majesty]] via [[Speak with Animals]]:'' | ||
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** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]], ensure him you don't seek his territory, only his time {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]], ensure him you don't seek his territory, only his time {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Playing as a [[Barbarian]], bark at His Majesty {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Playing as a [[Barbarian]], bark at His Majesty {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | '''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | ||
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'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | ** Then persuade [[Malus Thorm]] to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} (comes one point by another subsequently). | * OR Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) | ** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} .''(each time)'' | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | |||
* By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[House in Deep Shadows]]''' | '''[[House in Deep Shadows]]''' | ||
* Beat [[Oliver]] at hide-and-seek without being spotted. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Beat [[Oliver]] at hide-and-seek without being spotted. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, and then about his parents' names are. Then, after a successful passive {{Ability check|Wisdom|14}}, offer him to come to your camp and agree to play with him after he declines. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} (''immediately starts the fight with Oliver's 'family' '') | * Ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, and then about his parents' names are. Then, after a successful passive {{Ability check|Wisdom|14}}, offer him to come to your camp and agree to play with him after he declines. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} (''immediately starts the fight with Oliver's 'family' '') | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | '''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | ||
* Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[ | * Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion is his own person {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* | ** Then support Astarion's decision on biting [[Araj Oblodra|Araj]], telling her 'He said no, what's to discuss.'{{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when [[Araj Oblodra|Araj]] asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when [[Araj Oblodra|Araj]] asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* Kill [[Fezzerk]] without combat (through dialogue options) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Kill [[Fezzerk]] without combat (through dialogue options) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Successfully distract [[Disciple Z'rell]] with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Successfully distract [[Disciple Z'rell]] with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Disciple Z'rell]] to show the power the Absolute has given her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you're romancing the spawn'' | ||
:* Ask [[Disciple Z'rell]] to show the power the Absolute has given her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Questioner Jasin]] "The only thing I'm going to break is you" when [[Minthara]] is being erased. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Questioner Jasin]] "The only thing I'm going to break is you" when [[Minthara]] is being erased. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first'' | |||
* When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | * When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | ||
** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Propose to take [[Orin]]'s place to lead the cult of Absolute {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} (amount {{verify}}) | ** Propose to take [[Orin]]'s place to lead the cult of Absolute {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} (amount {{verify}}) | ||
** Tell her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ** <u>Tell</u> her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ||
** Tell her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ** <u>Tell</u> her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ||
* When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]], say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]], say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | ||
* After interacting with the Pedestal of Reckoning, agree to help [[Shadowheart]] with the trials. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After interacting with the Pedestal of Reckoning, agree to help [[Shadowheart]] with the trials. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Persuade [[Balthazar]] to give you the bell to summon [[Flesh]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Persuade [[Balthazar]] to give you the bell to summon [[Flesh]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | * Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask [[Balthazar]] what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''When dealing with [[Yurgir]]:'' | |||
* Attack Yurgir straightaway. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | |||
''When dealing with Yurgir:'' | |||
* Attack | |||
** OR Talk to [[Yurgir]] about his pact, pass a passive [[Insight]] check and three subsequent [[Persuasion]] checks to make him kill Merregons, his [[Displacer Beast]] [[Nessa]], and finally off himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR Talk to [[Yurgir]] about his pact, pass a passive [[Insight]] check and three subsequent [[Persuasion]] checks to make him kill Merregons, his [[Displacer Beast]] [[Nessa]], and finally off himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
▶ '' | ▶ '''''Note:''' The Insight check is not needed when playing as a [[Bard]] or a [[Warlock]]'' | ||
* If you agreed to help [[Yurgir]], reassure [[Astarion]] that this is all part of the plan. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If you agreed to help [[Yurgir]], reassure [[Astarion]] that this is all part of the plan. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Detect thoughts on the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Detect thoughts on the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* | * At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|}} | ||
* When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the Necrotic Laboratory choose to | * When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to consume the mind.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only after successful {{Ability check|Insight|18}}'' | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
* Tell [[Arabella]] her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Arabella]] her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After defending Astarion from [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] molestations, at the long rest tell him that you care about him, then either hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} '' | * After defending Astarion from [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] molestations, at the long rest tell him that you care about him, then either hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This long-rest cutscene appears only if you romance him; both these choices advance your relationship'' | |||
:* OR Tell him he needs a friend more than another lover {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This choice ends the romance without approval loss'' | |||
'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | |||
* Tell him it makes sense to ask [[Raphael]] for help with investigating his scars. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | |||
* After [[Raphael]] reveals the true purpose of the spawn's scars, tell Astarion you'll help hunt down and kill [[Cazador]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | |||
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''Elsewhere:'' | ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Volunteer any companion except Astarion to the stage. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Volunteer any companion except Astarion to the stage. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If going on stage yourself, say you're special because you treat the people around you with kindness. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If going on stage yourself, say you're special because you treat the people around you with kindness. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' | |||
* First question: 'When he's elbow deep in gore' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Second question: 'Revenge' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} OR 'Me' {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(the latter is available if you're romancing him)'' | |||
* Third question: 'Breaking a nail' {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} OR 'Most things' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[Open Hand Temple]]''' | '''[[Open Hand Temple]]''' | ||
* <u>Agree</u> with Brother Bill that if Father Logan had been pickier, he might still be alive. | * <u>Agree</u> with Brother Bill that if Father Logan had been pickier, he might still be alive. | ||
* Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness. | * Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | '''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | ||
* | * Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* <u>Tell</u> Adventurer Drin in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]] that 'adventurer' means nothing here anymore. | * <u>Tell</u> Adventurer Drin in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]] that 'adventurer' means nothing here anymore. | ||
* Pass the [[Investigation]] check to find [[Ffion Goldgrind|Ffion's]] body in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]]{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Pass the [[Investigation]] check to find [[Ffion Goldgrind|Ffion's]] body in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]]{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Agree that it doesn't matter whether the other spawn have to die in the Rite. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree that it doesn't matter whether the other spawn have to die in the Rite. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''If Astarion has completed the Rite of Profane Ascension'' | ''If Astarion has completed the Rite of Profane Ascension'' | ||
* Agree to become his spawn AND to bed with him 'one last time, for the road'. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} '' | * Agree to become his spawn AND to bed with him 'one last time, for the road'. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' Without sexual intercourse, no approval is gained'' | |||
'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
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** [[Deception|Deceive]] [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ** [[Deception|Deceive]] [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ||
** [[Persuasion|Persuade]] or [[Intimidation|intimidate]] them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned of the Rite yet)''. | ** [[Persuasion|Persuade]] or [[Intimidation|intimidate]] them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned of the Rite yet)''. | ||
* | * * In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], when speaking to [[Sebastian]], pass [[Persuasion]] or [[Imtimidation]] check, then promise to set him free OR ask whether he would be able to control hunger {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either)'' | ||
* Successfully | * Successfully keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
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* Convince [[Elder Brithvar]] to free the deep gnomes after the fight with [[Nere]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Convince [[Elder Brithvar]] to free the deep gnomes after the fight with [[Nere]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | '''[[Crèche Y'llek]]'''<br> | ||
''At the hatchery:'' | ''At the hatchery:'' | ||
* Persuade [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] to let you take the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]], telling him: | * Persuade [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] to let you take the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]], telling him: | ||
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** OR, Playing as a [[Githyanki]], say you'll see it becomes the greatest ''ghaik''-slayer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as a [[Githyanki]], say you'll see it becomes the greatest ''ghaik''-slayer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''In the training room:'' | ''In the training room:'' | ||
* After saving [[Youth Varrl]], tell him: | * After saving [[Youth Varrl]] by whatever means, tell him: | ||
** That capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** That capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR That his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR That his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
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'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
* When he asks how you'd like to be killed, say you don't have to choose, OR that you would prefer someone else to do it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} (either option) | * When he asks how you'd like to be killed, say you don't have to choose, OR that you would prefer someone else to do it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** OR Tell him you'll spill his guts first {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR Tell him you'll spill his guts first {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Give the [[Necromancy of Thay]] to Gale, or destroy it. {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | * Give the [[Necromancy of Thay]] to Gale, or destroy it. {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
* After Astarion fails to read through [[Necromancy of Thay]], suggest that he give the book to Gale or tell him to stop reading it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * After Astarion fails to read through [[Necromancy of Thay]], suggest that he give the book to Gale or tell him to stop reading it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | * Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | ||
* If Astarion died from the Lathander's Lance blast in [[Rosymorn Monastery]], talk to him and choose any line '''except''' the promise to be more careful next time {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | * If Astarion died from the Lathander's Lance blast in [[Rosymorn Monastery]], resurrect him, then talk to him and choose any line '''except''' the promise to be more careful next time {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
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'''Celebration at the Camp''' | '''Celebration at the Camp''' | ||
* Fail the {{Ability Check|Persuasion|15}} to make Astarion say '' 'please' '' when agreeing to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Refuse when he offers to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' Turning him down during any part of the sex cutscene itself '''does not''' bring any disapproval'' | |||
* If you already have a partner, tell Astarion that you're "looking forward to it" OR ask Astarion if he's feeling jealous. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * If you already have a partner, tell Astarion that you're "looking forward to it" OR ask Astarion if he's feeling jealous. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Speak to him, end the conversation without agreeing to sleep with him, then make arrangements with another companion. After that, talk to Astarion again and tell him you're spending the night with someone else. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Speak to him, end the conversation without agreeing to sleep with him, then make arrangements with another companion. After that, talk to Astarion again and tell him you're spending the night with someone else. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* | * At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to release the inhabitants of the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''Camp/Conversations''' | '''Camp/Conversations''' | ||
* After defending | * After defending Astarion from [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] molestations, at the long rest ''(the cutscene appears only if you romance him)'': | ||
** Tell him '''twice''' that you're not interested in his confessions {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} ''(this choice breaks your | ** Tell him '''twice''' that you're not interested in his confessions {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} ''(this choice breaks your relationship)'' | ||
** Tell him you regret stopping him from drinking Araj's blood {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} | ** Tell him you regret stopping him from drinking Araj's blood {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} | ||
** Tell him you slept with him because you wanted some fun {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} | ** Tell him you slept with him only because you wanted some fun {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} | ||
** Convince him to sleep with you tonight (using any line), then, when the cutscene continues, prompt him to say what he wants to say OR ask whether it was bad for him {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} ''(either choice brings equal disapproval and breaks your | ** Convince him to sleep with you tonight (using any line), then, when the cutscene continues, prompt him to say what he wants to say OR ask whether it was bad for him {{Approval|Astarion|-15}} ''(either choice brings equal disapproval and breaks your relationship)'' | ||
'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]] | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]] | ||
* When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} '' | * When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* When he says he's going to ask [[Raphael|Raphael's]] help | ▶ '''''Note:''' This cutscene will show up only if it hasn't occured in Act One'' | ||
** OR | * When he says he's going to ask [[Raphael|Raphael's]] help with investigating his scars, tell him he's mad {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* After [[Raphael]] reveals | ** OR Ask not to rope you in dealing with the devil {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* After [[Raphael]] reveals the true purpose of spawn's scars, refuse to help Astarion stop [[Cazador]] {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} | |||
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* Fail to | * Fail to keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension OR refuse to help him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(Astarion leaves the party)'' | ||
** <u>OR Interrupt</u> the Rite once Astarion has started it ''(Astarion becomes hostile to the party)'' | ** <u>OR Interrupt</u> the Rite once Astarion has started it ''(Astarion becomes hostile to the party)'' | ||
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Latest revision as of 14:13, 26 June 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (when romanced, if the player fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (after killing Alfira)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (after the player discovers the truth about their parentage in Act 3)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]