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Karlach/Approval

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Karlach approves of helping people out. Due to her experiences in Avernus, she distrusts devils. The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Karlach's Approval.

For more information about the approval system, see Approval.

Greetings

Depending on her approval rating, Karlach may greet the player with:

Negative (<0):

  • "Yeah?"
  • "What?"
  • "Out with it."
  • "Hey."

Neutral (0 - 19):

  • "Soldier?"
  • "Why're we slowing down?"
  • "Hm?"
  • "What can I do you for?"
  • "Yeah?"
  • "What's the story?"
  • "Heya."
  • "Hey, soldier."

Medium and up (20+):

  • "Hey, soldier."
  • "Soldier?"
  • "What's on your mind?"
  • "Copper for your thoughts?"

If spoken to by someone other than the player character:

  • "Sorry - haven't fraternised with you much and not sure if I want to start."
  • "Go get boss if you want to talk."
  • "Tell it to the chief."

Romance

Low approval

Flirting:

  • "Hey, soldier."
  • "Uh huh?"
  • "What is it?"
Partnered:
  • "Yeah, honey?"
  • "Hmm?"
  • "What's on your mind?"
Broken Up:
  • "What?"
  • "Yeah?"
  • "Something on your mind?"

Medium and higher approval

Flirting:

  • "Hey, you."
  • "Oh, hi!"
  • "What're you thinking about?"


Partnered:
  • "Darling."
  • "Hey!"
  • "Soldier?"
  • "What's on your mind?"
Broken up:
  • "Hey, soldier."
  • "Yeah?"
  • "What's on your mind?"

Approval

As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Karlach to gain approval.

Act One

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Ravaged Beach

Roadside Cliffs

Emerald Grove/The Hollow

In the Hollow

Note: This option appears only if you previously refused to help Zevlor, skipped talking to him, or he was knocked out by Aradin

  • While talking to/trading with Mattis, catch Silfy trying to pickpocket you (passive Perception check), and tell her to relax (either straightaway or after successful Insight check). Karlach approves +1
  • In the confrontation with Barth about the locket, stand for Meli Karlach approves +1
  • Agree to kill the goblin horde's leaders for Zevlor Karlach approves +5

In the Sacred Pool and druid caves:

  • Tell Arabella's mother Komira that the druids are overreacting and you'll speak with them Karlach approves +1
  • Persuade Kagha to free Arabella Karlach approves +5
  • After resolving Arabella's fate, talk to Kagha and call her a monster OR accuse her of killing the child in cold blood Karlach approves +5 (either option)
    • OR, Playing as a Drow Drow, say you don't threaten/kill children Karlach approves +5
    • OR Attack Kagha Karlach approves +1
  • Convince Kagha to fight against the Shadow Druids (if uncovered her conspiring with them) Karlach approves +5
    • OR Choose to attack Kagha instead of persuading her Karlach approves +1 (gains approval regardless of whether you've been successful convincing her to go against them or not)
  • Attack Kagha after speaking to Zevlor second time (about her demands) Karlach approves +1
  • While dealing with Topaz the bird via Speak with Animals:
    • Tell him that the key in its nest is dull, OR, playing as a Dwarf Dwarf, that the metal is of bad quality Karlach approves +1 (either option)
    • OR Playing as a Bard Bard, choose the class-specific option about a song Karlach approves +1
    • OR Kick the bird Karlach approves +1
  • After Nettie poisons you, attack her (no need to kill her) Karlach approves +1
  • Tell Silver the wolf you just wanted to give them your scent (using Speak with Animals) Karlach approves +1
  • Help Alfira finish her song Karlach approves +1
  • After being confronted about stealing the Idol of Silvanus, return the idol and apologise Karlach approves +1

While the Emerald Grove is preparing for the goblin attack

Note: This scene appears only if Wyll left the party due to your choices in dialogue with Minthara, after you have revealed to her the Grove's location

  • Refuse to open the gate for Minthara Karlach approves +5
  • Successfully defend the Grove and then talk to Zevlor Karlach approves +10

Forest

Note: This scene appears only if Aradin has previously left the grove

Owlbear Nest

Sunlit Wetlands/Putrid Bog

  • When find Demir and Johl arguing with Auntie Ethel, tell them all to calm down, and then choose to defend Auntie Ethel Karlach approves +1 (immediately starts the fight with brothers)
    • OR Ask Ethel straightaway what did she do with their sister Karlach approves +1
    • While talking to Demir and Johl after Ethel disappears, offer to help them find their sister Karlach approves +1
  • After entering the Sunlit Wetlands, break the illusion by any available means, then say 'BAA' at the Redcaps when you speak to them Karlach approves +1 (works twice)
  • When talking to Auntie Ethel and Mayrina at the Riverside Teahouse:
    • Don't let Ethel steer the conversation away, and finally say that "This woman is clearly in trouble" Karlach approves +1
    • OR tell Mayrina straightaway that Demir and Johl were killed (by you or Ethel) Karlach approves +1
  • After defeating Auntie Ethel, Intimidate her into handing over both Mayrina and fey hair Karlach approves +5
    • OR Order her to let Mayrina go. Karlach approves +1
    • OR Say that the best solution is a dead hag.Karlach approves +1
  • Resurrect Connor Vinderblad, and then give Mayrina the Bitter Divorce wand Karlach approves +1
  • (If Astarion is not in your party) When talking to Gandrel, tell him that Astarion is under your protection Karlach approves +1.
    • Further in dialogue, refuse to help the hunter find your camp Karlach approves +1

Blighted Village

Goblin Camp

At the front gate:

  • Fling worg dung at Sentinel Olak Karlach approves +5 (requires DC 10 Athletics check and triggers a fight with gate guards)
    • If failed the check, wink and fling dung at all other guards Karlach approves +5 (triggers a fight, too)
    • OR Smear the dung over your face Karlach approves +1
  • Tap once on the war drum Karlach approves +1
    • OR Use Performance to play a rhythm on the war drumKarlach approves +1

In the outer camp:

Talking with Crusher:

  • When he orders you to kiss his foot, obey Karlach disapproves -1, then start licking it Karlach approves +1
    • OR Give his foot a long lick straightaway Karlach approves +1
  • Steal the ring from Crusher's toe after you kneel in front of him. Karlach approves +1
  • Make Crusher kneel and kiss your foot, using Intimidation. Karlach approves +1
  • If Crusher attacks you, defeat him, then say you've made a point and help him up. Karlach approves +1

Inside the Shattered Sanctum:

Note: This option is available if you have previously freed Sazza from the cage in Emerald Grove

  • Tell Minthara that the prisoner escaped and pass an Intelligence check to withhold the grove's location Karlach approves +5
    • OR Tell her that Liam told you everything and pass the Deception check Karlach approves +5

Note: This option is available only if you spoke to Minthara before interrogating and freeing Liam

  • OR, Playing as a Tiefling Tiefling, answer that you won't betray your kind Karlach approves +5 (starts a fight with Minthara)

In the Worg Pens:

  • Stop the goblin children from throwing stones at bear by any means Karlach approves +1
    • OR Make Brawler Birka release the bear and then attack the goblins Karlach approves +1
  • After freeing Halsin, agree to kill goblin leaders to save the grove (either with or without him in bear form). Karlach approves +5

The Risen Road

  • When dealing with the dying hyena:
    • Playing as a Good/Neutral Cleric Cleric or a non-Oathbreaker Paladin Paladin, successfully bless the dying hyena Karlach approves +1
    • Playing as a Ranger Ranger, mercy-kill the dying hyena Karlach approves +1
    • Playing as a Druid Druid, choose to "destroy the abomination" Karlach approves +1
  • Successfully use Detect Thoughts on Anders to unveil his true intentions and stand to Karlach Karlach approves +10 (she must be in the party)
  • Save Rugan, then use Persuasion to convince him to sell his employer's wares Karlach approves +1

Waukeen's Rest

Zhentarim Hideout

  • Successfully Intimidate the guard Salazon to let you go through the hatch to the hideout Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Rogue Rogue, show him single-hand sign "profit"Karlach approves +1
  • Get access into the hideout peacefully Karlach approves +1

Note: If you've already found the shipment, the dialogue line "I know what became of Rugan" will not give approval.

  • If you have conspired with Rugan about the shipment, refuse to kill him on Zarys's order. Karlach approves +1
    • OR Free Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other Zentharim Karlach approves +5
  • Promise Oskar Fevras to speak to his captors Karlach approves +1
  • Purchase the artist from Brem for the price he asks initially Karlach approves +1
    • Make Brem lower the price through Intimidation or Persuasion Karlach approves +1
    • OR Make him let Oskar go for free, using any check-based option Karlach approves +1
  • Give Oskar an additional 200 gold after freeing him Karlach approves +1

Underdark

Note: this option is available only if you have found and read Letter from Amarith in the Arcane Tower

  • In Festering Cove, tell BOOOAL you won't let him enslave the Kuo-toa any longer Karlach approves +1
    • If you find out that BOOOAL is a Redcap, bait him with a tale of bloodshed instead of sacrifice Karlach approves +1

Grymforge

  • Tell Ward Magmar that he disgusts you Karlach approves +1
  • Convince Skickpit you're going to help him, then ask if he really wants you to kill his slavers (using Persuasion line) Karlach approves +1
  • Pay respect to the heap of deep gnomes' corpses after killing or deceiving Brathwen and Viss Karlach approves +1
  • Convince the Deep Rothé to give in to their rage and attack the duergar Karlach approves +1
  • Promise the deep gnome slaves that you'll do what you can to help them Karlach approves +1
  • After finding Philomeen (and letting her go away), talk to Lunkbug and mention she wants Laridda to move on, or tell Laridda directly Karlach approves +1
  • Stand up for the deep gnome slaves when Nere, once freed, is going to kill them Karlach approves +5
  • Convince Elder Brithvar to free the deep gnomes after the fight with Nere Karlach approves +5
    • If failed to convince Brithwar, choose the line "I am freeing these gnomes. Just try and stop me." (immediately starts the fight with the rest of duergar) Karlach approves +5
  • If you killed the duergar (both rebels and Absolutists) before freeing Nere, plant a thought in Nere's mind about freeing the gnome slaves Karlach approves +1
  • After freeing Barcus Wroot, bid him farewell and good luck Karlach approves +5

Mountain Pass

  • Playing as a Githyanki Githyanki, tell Ellyka that githyanki patrol means nothing to you, getting her to stand down.Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Being disguised as a gith, tell her you're actually not OR that she is safe. Karlach approves +1
  • Allow Lae'zel to speak with the githyanki patrol and Kith'rak Voss Karlach approves +1

Crèche Y'llek

In the Classroom:

  • Persuade Sa'varsh Kethk to let Youth Varrl go from training.Karlach approves +1
  • Playing as a Fighter Fighter, save Youth Varrl by whatever means, and then tell him:
    • That capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts Karlach approves +1
    • That warriors fight for something, not just to kill Karlach approves +1

In the Hatchery:

  • Successfully persuade Varsh Ko'kuu to let you take the githyanki egg, telling him:
    • that you'll take it to a better crèche Karlach approves +1
    • OR that you'll raise it yourself Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Githyanki Githyanki, say you'll see it becomes the greatest ghaik-slayer Karlach approves +1.

In captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chambers:

Camp/Conversation

  • When Mizora first appears in the camp, tell her not to lay a finger on Karlach Karlach approves +5
    • OR Threaten to kill Mizora during her first appearance Karlach approves +1
  • When Shadowheart confesses about her being a Sharran, answer that you don't care, because you all have bigger problems Karlach approves +1
  • After staking Astarion when he tried to bite you, say that bringing him to the camp was a mistake Karlach approves +1
  • After having a romantic night, tell her you'd love to be able to touch her properly Karlach approves +5

Note: This line can be repeated multiple times until the second upgrade of Karlach' heart, but only the first time gives approval

  • Pet Scratch when he first comes to the camp Karlach approves +1
  • Feed the Owlbear Cub when it first comes to the camp Karlach approves +1 (requires food in the inventory)
  • Successfully attend to the Owlbear Cub's wound when it appears again at the camp Karlach approves +1
  • Pet the Owlbear Cub when it stays at the camp Karlach approves +1 (gains approval only the first time you do it)
  • Having invited Barcus Wroot to your camp, promise him you will find his friend Wulbren at Moonrise Towers Karlach approves +1
  • When Kith'rak Voss wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the Mysterious Artefact (after the events at the Crèche):
    • Encourage Lae'zel to trust him Karlach approves +1
    • OR tell Lae'zel you'll support any choice of hers Karlach approves +1
    • OR tell Lae'zel you believe Kith'rak and she should too Karlach approves +1

Raphael's Deal

  • When Raphael briefly takes you to the House of Hope, choose lines:
    • "You're mad if you think I'll make a deal with a devil." Karlach approves +5 (If playing as Wyll: "... another devil")
    • OR "Then fix it. Or die by my hand!" Karlach approves +5
  • After first encounter with Raphael, speak with Shadowheart and choose dialogue option about distrusting Raphael twice Karlach approves +5

Any Area

  • Playing as Astarion, confess to her that you are a vampire. Karlach approves +10

Personal quest

  • After defeating Anders and his crew, and Karlach having rampaged in the Tollhouse, tell her she looks hot. Karlach approves +3
  • If Karlach is recruited before Wyll, he will show up when ending this day in the camp. Talk him out of fighting Karlach. Karlach approves +5
  • Agree to give Karlach a Soul Coin to power her up in combat Karlach approves +5
  • When you first meet Dammon while already having a piece of infernal iron, Karlach will ask if she can give it to the smith - agree. Karlach approves +10
  • After Dammon upgrades her heart first time tell her you still can't touch her, and then choose the line "Of course I do" Karlach approves +10

Act Two

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Ruined Battlefield

If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Rosymorn Monastery Trail:

If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Grymforge:

  • As a Wizard, tell Harper Lassandra that you can aid in traversing the darkness.Karlach approves +1
  • As a Bard, tell Harper Lassandra that the best introductions are made while sitting around a fire.Karlach approves +1
  • As The Dark Urge, decide to stay and help Harpers against shadows (instead of abandoning them) Karlach approves +1
  • When the shadows warp Yonas, tell Harper Meygan, "Move. I'll take care of this."Karlach approves +1
  • Free Dolly Thrice from the Moonlantern (no matter how you obtain it)Karlach approves +1
  • When judging with He Who Was, ask Madeline what did the Dark Justiciar do, and then:
    • Call her a coward Karlach approves +1, OR tell her it wasn't her fault Karlach approves +1, OR tell her you forgive her (class-based lines) Karlach approves +1
    • OR after ordering her to stab herself, let her make a couple of strikes and then say it was enough Karlach approves +1, OR tell her that her readyness to hurt herself is enough to be forgiven Karlach approves +1


Last Light Inn

  • Show Jaheira the Mysterious Artefact when you first meet her.Karlach approves +1
  • Drink the spiked wine when talking to Jaheira inside. Karlach approves +1
  • Pay Mattis extra for the Tower-Shaped Key Karlach approves +1
  • Help Mol win the game against Raphael using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options, or following Gale's advice (if he is in party) Karlach approves +1
    • Tell Raphael to stay away from Mol Karlach approves +3

Note: This line appears only if Astarion is not in the party, otherwise Raphael will turn the talk to the spawn's scars.


Reithwin Town

  • Agree to help Arabella find her parents. Karlach approves +1
  • Agree to take Arabella in at your camp. Karlach approves +1

In the Reithwin Tollhouse:

In the House of Healing:

  • Convince Malus Thorm to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.Karlach approves +1
    • Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. Karlach approves +1
  • OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. Karlach approves +2 (comes one point by another subsequently).

At The Waning Moon:

  • Safely drink with Thisobald Thorm (rolling Saving Throw, either general or class-based) up to three times total Karlach approves +1(each time)
    • OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling Sleight of Hand) Karlach approves +1 (gains approval only in first round)
  • Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through Performance roll) Karlach approves +1 (each time).

Note: If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent Deception roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.

  • By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst Karlach approves +1

House in Deep Shadows

  • Agree to play hide-and-seek with Oliver.Karlach approves +1
  • Convince Oliver to reunite with Thaniel.Karlach approves +5

Moonrise Towers

  • Offer Fezzerk a fair fight. Karlach approves +1
  • Sever the connection between Linsella and Barnabus Karlach approves +1
  • Tell Araj Oblodra that Astarion is his own person. Karlach approves +1
  • Invite Minthara to your camp after saving her.
  • Invite Jaheira to fight with you in front of Moonrise Towers.Karlach approves +1
  • After the first floor is secured, tell Jaheira you sense a bit of envy and ask her to join the fight against Ketheric Thorm.
  • At the Moonrise Towers Rooftop, tell Ketheric Thorm that you can help, or that it isn't too late, or to come quietly Karlach approves +1 (either choice)

Note: This option requires DC 21 Intimidation check and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first, OR a DC 10 Persuasion check if you have found and read Melodia's Letter to Ketheric

  • Then tell Aylin to stand down, because Ketheric has surrendered.

Gauntlet of Shar

Shadowfell

  • Tell Balthazar to leave or he's a dead man. Karlach approves +1
  • Tell Shadowheart that she should spare the Nightsong because the aasimar may know something about her. Karlach approves +1

Mind Flayer Colony

Note: This option is available only after successful passive DC 18 Insight check

Camp/Conversation

Personal quest

  • After Dammon upgrades Karlach's engine second time at the Last Light Inn, prove it worked, giving her a hug (or kissing, if you romance her). Karlach approves +5

Act Three

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Rivington
Talking to Yenna:

  • Offer her help:
    • Give some coin OR some food Karlach approves +1 (either option, giving food available for all characters except Druid)
    • OR Suggest to find a guard for her Karlach approves +1 (available for all characters except Cleric)
    • Playing as a Druid, conjure some berries and herbs for her Karlach approves +1
    • Playing as a Cleric or a Monk, suggest to find the nearest temple Karlach approves +1
    • Playing as a Ranger, suggest to track her mother down Karlach approves +1

Note: Offering Yenna food OR promising to look for her mum after using class-based Ranger line brings another Karlach approves +1 point

At the Sword Coast Couriers:

  • Get more money out of Danzo Arkwright in return for the Zhentarim letters, using any check-based option.Karlach approves +1

In the kennels:

Dealing with Orin's guises:

  • If Orin is impersonating Fist Rowan, tell her that one can't just kill innocent people Karlach approves +1

Note: This line goes for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any other Origin, except Dark Urge, it might have unique formulation

    • OR Tell her that you're going to report to the commanding officer Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, tell her that mindless slaughter is not the answer Karlach approves +1
  • If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, tell her you would never kill someone you care about. Karlach approves +1
  • If Orin is impersonating Dying Stone Lord Thug, succeed a passive DC 20 Perception check, and then:
  • Say you'll stay with him until the end Karlach approves +1
    • OR Say you'll make it quick Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, resist the urge to torment him Karlach approves +1


In the Angleiron's Cellar:

  • Tell Wulbren that the real enemy is Gortash, and not the Gondians Karlach approves +1
    • OR That you'll talk with the Gondians and maybe they'll see reason. Karlach approves +1
    • If contacting the Gondians, insist on refusing the bomb afterwards. Karlach approves +1

Elsewhere:

  • Agree to chase refugees out from Arfur's Mansion for half-price, and punch Zenovia Dawg when she tries to extort full sum from you Karlach approves +1 (requires failing Persuasion roll against her first)
  • Tell Saer Grotpoll that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian Karlach approves +1

Note: This option is available only if your character is a Baldurian themselves, or has successfully deceived Grotpoll into believing so, if they're not

Note: This option is available only if Orin is not impersonating the Thug

Circus of the Last Days

  • At the entrance, convince Klaus to let you in, bribing him, using Persuasion, Deception or any class-based option except pretending to be a friend of Gortash's Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say you used to be a murderer Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as an Archfey Warlock, first say that you never pass up a faerie mischief Karlach approves +1
  • Speaking with Zara the mummy, say you don't understand her, and then mime her grunting Karlach approves +1

Dealing with Akabi the djinni:

  • Tell him that he is VERY LOUD. Karlach approves +1
  • Play the game and accuse the djinni of rigging the wheel Karlach approves +1
    • If successful, play again and try to distract Akabi, letting out a loud fart Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Bard, ask him about his adventures Karlach approves +1
    • OR Provoke him to transform you Karlach approves +1
  • After returning from jungle, talk to the djinni again and say you have had much fun OR promise he will pay for it Karlach approves +1 (either option)

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

  • First question: ★'Zariel' Karlach approves +1 OR ★'Gortash' Karlach approves +2
  • Second question: ★'Bashing and sex' Karlach approves +2
  • Third question: ★'Probably dead' Karlach approves +1 OR ★'Settled with partner and kids' Karlach approves +2

Note: The ★ sign here marks the answers considered 'correct' for the purposes of the test.

  • Talking to Boney the mephit, call his wife Stoney magnificent Karlach approves +1
    • OR Note that she's a lot bigger than himself Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Druid, say they both are magnificent Karlach approves +1

Dealing with Popper the kobold trader:

Note: Class-based Deception lines for Wizard, Warlock or Sorcerer do not give approval [Needs Verification]

  • Playing as a Paladin or a Cleric, tell him that graverobbing is a profane act Karlach approves +1
  • If talking to Popper after defeating false Dribbles, say that offering 'treatoes' now is a bit callous. Karlach approves +1

Dealing with caged beasts:

  • Talking to Shadow-Whiskers, break the lock on her cage. Karlach approves +1 (either with or without Speak with Animals Speak with Animals)
  • Talking to Crimson, give him some meat OR promise to bring it later (if you don't have any in inventory) Karlach approves +1 (either option)
    • After defeating false Dribbles, talk to Crimson again and scold the circus staff for starving him OR propose to open his cage up.Karlach approves +1 (either option)
    • OR, Say you'd have killed him before he hurts anyone else Karlach approves +1

Watching Dribbles's show:

  • Say "What a corny joke." Karlach approves +1
    • OR, Playing as a Bard, interrupt him with your own pun Karlach approves +1
  • Volunteer any companion to the stage as Dribbles's assistant, except Karlach herself, Wyll and Jaheira Karlach approves +1
    • Then insist on your choice and cheer them Karlach approves +1 (including Karlach or unique lines for Minthara and Jaheira)

Note: If you volunteer Wyll to the stage, you'll get Karlach approves +2  instead of  [+1]  each time. If you volunteer Jaheira, you'll get Karlach approves +2  instead of  [+1]  first time.

  • If going on stage yourself, suggest any available explanation on why you're special, except "something about my brain" and unique line for The Dark Urge Karlach approves +1

Talking to Lucretious:

  • When she's training up skeletons (before fighting doppelgangers), tell her that she is being a little harsh Karlach approves +1
  • After defeating false Dribbles, tell her that killing clowns is a rare treat Karlach approves +1
  • When Lucretious asks you to find real Dribbles, answer that you are expensive Karlach approves +1
  • When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, say it was pleasure to meet her Karlach approves +1
    • OR Ask whether she is hiring personnel Karlach approves +1

Open Hand Temple

Wyrm's Crossing

  • Consent to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing. Karlach approves +1
  • Refuse to deliver the gnome leader's head to Manip Falcäo Karlach approves +1
  • At Carm's Garm, when Naaber pretends to be a dog, choose "nobody likes Naaber" line. Karlach approves +1

Note: It may take several sequential attempts to speak with Naaber to get to this dialogue.

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist barracks:

  • Convince the Flaming Fist quartermaster Arkleia Oloril to trade with you. Karlach approves +1
  • When you spot Fist Reynash trying to open a chest, give him 300 gold to take the ferry Karlach approves +1

Speaking to Manip Bakshi (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not):

  • Successfully detect his thoughts and pretend to be a new recruit Karlach approves +1
  • OR Tell him you've spotted Reynash on stealing Karlach approves +1
    • Then Tell him not to be hard on Reynash Karlach approves +1
  • Agree to leave barracks (or let him escort you out) Karlach approves +1

At the Audience Hall:

  • Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say:
    • That you have seen the army of the Absolute and no where's safe. Karlach approves +1
    • That the Steel Watchers will eventually turn on everyone. Karlach approves +1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, when Gortash explains your previous dealings, answer that you've come to end this evil plot Karlach approves +1
  • Refuse to make an alliance with Gortash and confirm your decision Karlach approves +1
  • Tell Gortash that you have no interest in this sham of a coronation Karlach approves +3
  • After killing Orin, speaking to Gortash and surrender two your Netherstones to him, then fight when he attacks afterwards Karlach approves +3

Talking to Duke Ravengard after the coronation:

  • Ask him whether the "new dawn" is what they call tyranny now Karlach approves +2
    • OR Tell the Duke that Florrick sent you, then probe Ravengard's mind to discover councellor's location, and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant Karlach approves +2
    • OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected Karlach approves +2
  • As a Baldurian character, ask what has happened to the city's great hero Karlach approves +1

Talking to Karlach after the coronation:

  • If you agreed to become allies with Gortash:
    • When Karlach asks whether you intend an alliance, answer "No, but he need not to know it" Karlach approves +5
    • OR Say that you need to avoid making enemies, and then that Gortash wasn't a betrayer in pact with Ketheric and Orin Karlach approves +5
  • If you declined Gortash's offer or chose neutral line:
    • When Karlach asks what you'd make of him, call Gortash a fraud in a nice coat Karlach approves +5
    • OR Say you can’t wait to flatten him. Karlach approves +5


Lower City


House of Hope

  • Refuse to undress for Haarlep. Karlach approves +1
  • Tell Hope that you expected Raphael to put up more of a fight after killing him. Karlach approves +1

Disapproval

As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Karlach to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.

Act One

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Roadside Cliffs

  • Speaking with the Tieflings holding Lae'zel in a cage, choose the 'attack' option. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge The Dark Urge, tear off Gale's hand Karlach disapproves -1
  • Convince Gimblebock near Chapel Entrance and his crew to flee (using any Ability or Class-unique option) Karlach disapproves -1

Emerald Grove/The Hollow

In the Hollow:

  • Take a swing at Zevlor during his argument with Aradin Karlach disapproves -1
  • Refuse to help Zevlor persuade Kagha to let the tieflings stay. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell the tiefling kids trained by Asharak that they are going to die Karlach disapproves -1
  • Scold Elegis for being scared of a few goblins OR tell her to get to digging their own graves Karlach disapproves -1 (either)
  • Dig out the recently made grave near the gate Karlach disapproves -1

Note: The grave appears upon long rest after initial scene when approaching the grove. It might be made to bury Kanon, Aradin or Zevlor.

  • While speaking with Arron, say the refugees will be fine due to their devilish powers. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talk to Strange Ox (without Speak with Animals) and call it a hideous cow Karlach disapproves -1
  • Kick Timber the squirrel Karlach disapproves -1.
    • If you miss, try to kick her again Karlach disapproves -1
    • Playing as The Dark Urge The Dark Urge, when you are confronted by a companion about kicking Timber, answer that it came right at you OR that your instincts are sharp Karlach disapproves -1
  • Make Zorru kneel before Lae'zel Karlach disapproves -1
    • After Lae'zel has questioned Zorru, tell her she is good at interrogations. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Offer to heal Pandirna for a price but pocket the money and leave Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Tell Pandirna to hush or you will snap her neck Karlach disapproves -1 (the line is available for all classes except Barbarian Barbarian)
  • Let Arka shoot Sazza Karlach disapproves -1
  • Free Sazza from her cage and tell her to follow you Karlach disapproves -1
  • During Meli and Barth's confrontation about the stolen locket
    • Choose not to get involved Karlach disapproves -1
    • Let Barth hit Meli for stealing his locket Karlach disapproves -1
    • Tell Meli to return the trinket, because "There's already one thief to bury today." Karlach disapproves -1

Note: This line is available only if Arabella has died.

  • Make Barth pay you for his locket, if you get it back from Meli Karlach disapproves -1
  • While talking to/trading with Mattis, either pocket his "lucky ring" straightaway OR tell him you've earned it.Karlach disapproves -1
    • Then, catch Silfy trying to pickpocket you and grab her by the hand Karlach disapproves -1
  • Threaten Mol when first meeting her in the Tiefling Hideout Karlach disapproves -1
  • At the Tiefling Hideout, when Mirkon is trying to present you a story, say you've heard enough of his chatter Karlach disapproves -1
  • After successfully stealing the Idol of Silvanus for Mol, tell her that you will keep it for yourself Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as a Rogue Rogue, advise her not to ask, just take Karlach disapproves -1
  • Refuse Zevlor to kill the goblin horde's leaders Karlach disapproves -1

In the Sacred Pool and druid caves:

  • After resolving Arabella's fate, tell Kagha that you you just wanted to see what would happen. Karlach disapproves -5
    • OR Praise Kagha for protecting her own. Karlach disapproves -5
    • OR Tell her that it was quite a show Karlach disapproves -5
    • Tell Locke and Komira that they should have tried parenting Arabella and what's happened is their fault Karlach disapproves -1
  • If Arabella has died, lie and tell Locke and Komira that Kagha will release her soon Karlach disapproves -1
  • Prod Nettie's bird twice Karlach disapproves -1
  • Swear to Nettie that you will take the wyvern poison if you start turning Karlach disapproves -1
  • As a Rogue Rogue, pick Mirkon's pockets while he is distracted by the harpies Karlach disapproves -1
    • After saving Mirkon from the harpies, tell him to stop snivelling or the harpies will return Karlach disapproves -1
  • Playing as a Bard Bard, talk to the squirrels listening to Alfira and first hush them not to ruin the song, and only afterwards the class-unique line "Sing along…" Karlach disapproves -1
    • Steal Alfira's extra lute Karlach disapproves -1
    • Take Alfira's lute out of her hands and smash it Karlach disapproves -1
    • Tell Alfira she should give up on her song Karlach disapproves -1

While the Emerald Grove is preparing for the goblin attack

  • Tell Mirkon you are not going to save him again OR that he's on his own. Karlach disapproves -1 (the formulation depends on whether you saved Mirkon from the harpies or not).
  • Tell Pandirna that you are here for the show Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Zevlor (or Asharak if Zevlor is dead) that it was you who led the horde to the grove, and then that this place belongs to the Absolute Karlach disapproves -10
    • OR That the horde is coming, led by the drow - and you are with them Karlach disapproves -10
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge The Dark Urge, tell Zevlor that the goblin horde is yours. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Betray the Grove (open the gate) after blowing the horn Karlach disapproves -10

Forest

Note: This scene appears only if Aradin has previously left the grove

Owlbear Nest

  • Choose to go closer to the Owlbear Cub or attack the mother Owlbear Karlach disapproves -1
  • After killing the mother Owlbear, kill the cub as well Karlach disapproves -1

Sunlit Wetlands/Putrid Bog

Blighted Village

  • Read the Necromancy of Thay Karlach disapproves -1
  • Interrupt the bugbear and ogre couple in the barn Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR let Astarion interrupt them (if he is in party). Karlach disapproves -1
  • Pay Fezzerk a lot of gold to let you pass Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Attack the gang, and when Fezzerk begs for mercy, deliver the final blow Karlach disapproves -1

Goblin Camp

In the outer camp:

  • Yell "Boo, get off the stage!" at Volo as he performs. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Tracker Grikka that you will get answers from prisoners. Karlach disapproves -1
    • Playing as a Dwarf Dwarf, ask Grikka to save a piece of dwarf meat for you. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Using Speak with Animals, tell the Dishevelled Chicken to shut up and play. Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Instruct the chicken to run to the finish posts. Karlach disapproves -1

Note: These options are available if you have killed the Owlbear Cub in its nest.

  • Playing a tour of chicken-chasing, tell the Owlbear Cub to run to the posts, using Speak with Animals Karlach disapproves -1
  • When Crusher orders you to kiss his foot, obey Karlach disapproves -1
    • If Crusher attacks you and begs for mercy, finish him Karlach disapproves -1 (triggers a fight with the entire camp)

In the Shattered Sanctum:

  • Promise Minthara to get information from the captive (i.e. Liam) Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Torturer Spike to let you put the prisoner through paces. Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge The Dark Urge, propose to show Spike how it's done Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as a Drow Drow, tell him that you don't try, you get results. Karlach disapproves -1
    • Then torture Liam yourself. Karlach disapproves -1
  • After questioning Liam, leave him tied to the rack Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Minthara that Sazza was too stupid to understand you prior Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as a Lolth-Sworn Drow Lolth-Sworn Drow, tell Sazza she should have see a superior in you at once Karlach disapproves -1

Note: These options are available if you have previously freed Sazza from the cage in Emerald Grove

  • Agree to attack the Grove with Minthara with or without asking for a reward. Karlach disapproves -5

In the Worg Pens:

  • Tell goblin children to keep at the bear, to aim for his eye, or to use sharper stones. Karlach disapproves -1 (either option)
    • Throw a rock yourself. Karlach disapproves -1 (Makes Halsin hostile)
    • OR Make Brawler Birka release the bear and then attack the animal Karlach disapproves -1
  • Refuse Halsin to help him save the grove after freeing him Karlach disapproves -1

The Risen Road

  • Order Flind to attack the other gnolls instead of you Karlach disapproves -1
  • Save Rugan, then tell him to give the cargo to you, using Intimidation or provoking a fight Karlach disapproves -1
  • If you fail to intimidate Rugan into surrendering the cargo to you, say you can harm him no less worse than gnolls would have Karlach disapproves -1 (makes him hostile)
  • At the tollhouse, tell the merchant Cyrel that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. Karlach disapproves -1

Waukeen's Rest

  • Leave Benryn to die under the wreckage Karlach disapproves -1
    • If you saved Benryn, tell him you'll keep the dowry as a payment for his saving Karlach disapproves -1

Zhentarim Hideout

  • Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other Zhentarim Karlach disapproves -1
  • Purchase Oskar Fevras from Brem, then speak to the artist and call him a slave twice Karlach disapproves -5
    • OR, Having spoken with Oskar AND Brem, return to the artist and say you've got enough problems Karlach disapproves -1

Underdark

  • Agree to hunt down Thulla for Gekh Coal, for reward or for free Karlach disapproves -1
  • Steal Boots of Speed from Thulla while she's helpless. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Derryth Bonecloak you're going to keep the Noblestalk for yourself Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Successfully Intimidate her into giving you reward for the finding, then take the reward and keep the mushroom.Karlach disapproves -1
    • If Baelen ate the Noblestalk himself, tell Derryth you know exactly what you've done Karlach disapproves -1
  • Agree to be BOOOAL's chosen Karlach disapproves -1

Grymforge

  • When Lunkbug tells you where to find Philomeen, answer that you'll take her head for a trophy. Karlach disapproves -1
    • After finding Philomeen, talk to Lunkbug and say she's done for Karlach disapproves -1
  • Ask Ward Magmar how to get a slave of your own Karlach disapproves -1
  • Persuade the Deep Rothé to breathe, focus and excavate for Skarjall Karlach disapproves -1
  • Provoke a fight against Elder Brithvar by either taunting him to try and take your gold OR suggesting to rat him out to Sergeant Thrinn about his conspiracy against Nere Karlach disapproves -1 (either option)
  • Side with Elder Brithvar when confronting Nere Karlach disapproves -1
  • Side with Nere against Elder Brithvar Karlach disapproves -5
  • If you killed the duergar (both rebels and Absolutists) before freeing Nere, kill the gnome slaves as well, when he orders you to Karlach disapproves -5
    • OR Attack Nere instead of gnomes Karlach disapproves -1
  • Let Elder Brithvar take the enslaved deep gnomes after the fight with Nere Karlach disapproves -5

Mountain Pass

  • Attack Ellyka near the point of encounter with githyanki squad Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Being disguised as a gith, provoke her to attack you. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Speak with Voss instead of letting Lae'zel do it Karlach disapproves -1 (any line of two available)

Crèche Y'llek

  • Upon entering the crèche, playing as a Ranger Ranger, Intimidate Gish Far'aag to let you pass, saying you're hunting either mind flayers or the gith Karlach disapproves -1
  • Offer to fight Youth Varrl when Sa'varsh Kethk asks for a challenger Karlach disapproves -1, and then indeed kill him Karlach disapproves -1.
  • Tell Varsh Ko'kuu that if he gives you the githyanki egg you'll sell it at best price OR make yourself an omelette (either choise brings Karlach disapproves -1 and immediately starts the fight with Ko'kuu and hatchery guards)
  • Crush the Githyanki egg Karlach disapproves -1 (This option is not available if playing as a Githyanki Githyanki; starts the fight with Ko'kuu and hatchery guards)
  • Surrender the Mysterious Artefact to Kith'rak Therezzyn Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talking to Vlaakith, say you're a friend who brought the artefact to her Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Rat Shadowheart out that it was she who stole it Karlach disapproves -1 (the line is available only if Shadowheart is in the party)
  • Agree to Vlaakith's request to kill the person inside the Mysterious Artefact. Karlach disapproves -1

Raphael's Deal

  • When Raphael briefly takes you to the House of Hope, say that you'll do anything to get rid of the tadpole Karlach disapproves -1

Camp/Conversation

  • If Karlach is recruited before Wyll, he will show up in camp after a long rest. Escalate the conversation into a fight with Wyll. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Flirt with Mizora when she shows up Karlach disapproves -1
  • Ask Mizora whether she leaves if you turn on Karlach Karlach disapproves -5
  • Let Volo follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite
  • Shoo the Owlbear Cub out of the camp when it comes wounded Karlach disapproves -1

Background HauntedOne Icon.png Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.

Act Two

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Ruined Battlefield

  • Side with the convoy against the Harpers.Karlach disapproves -1
  • Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy, side with the ambushing Harpers. After defeating the convoy, tell the Harpers' leader you're going to kill them and take the lantern.Karlach disapproves -1 (Taking this course starts the fight with ambushing Harpers immediately).
  • When judging with He Who Was, order Madeline to stab herself Karlach disapproves -1, then to continue Karlach disapproves -1, and finally succeed a Persuasion roll to keep her going Karlach disapproves -1.
  • Give up all your gold to Gerringothe Thorm. Karlach disapproves -1

Last Light Inn

  • When Marcus assaults the inn, concert with him telepathically, then tell Isobel that she's going to meet Ketheric. Karlach disapproves -10
  • After Mol is taken, tell Mattis she's probably dead already.Karlach disapproves -1
  • Question Karlach's encouragement of Mattis' 'scamming with the greats'. Karlach disapproves -5
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, and then give in to your urge Karlach disapproves -10 (Choosing this course immediately starts a fight with Isobel, and any Harper or Fist who notice this will side with Isobel)

Moonrise Towers

  • Refuse to take Soul Coins from Lann Tarv in exchange for hearing about the souls inside themKarlach disapproves -5

Note: This line appears only if Karlach is in the party.

  • Kill Fezzerk without combat (through dialogue options) Karlach disapproves -1
  • When speaking with Minthara after the battle, propose to take the place of Orin once she's dead. Karlach disapproves -1

Gauntlet of Shar

  • Tell Shadowheart you will support her becoming a Dark Justiciar.
  • Agree to help Balthazar.
  • Offer to search the Gauntlet of Shar to help Yurgir.

Mind Flayer Colony

Note: This option is available only after successful passive DC 18 Insight check

Camp/Conversation

  • Sleep with Karlach, tell her that it was a mistake, then confirm it Karlach disapproves -100

Act Three

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Talking to Yenna, be rude to her:

  • Ask where did she last see her mum, then say her mother is probably dead. Karlach disapproves -1
  • OR Tell Yenna to get lost. Karlach disapproves -1

Rivington

  • After successfully deceiving Saer Grotpoll that you're a Baldurian (if you actually are not), stand for his rumblings about refugees Karlach disapproves -1
  • Take the bomb from Wulbren OR tell him that this is too messy.
    • If contacting the Gondians, accept the bomb anyway.

Dealing with Orin's guises:

  • If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, say you would kill someone close to you without hesitation.Karlach disapproves -1

Note: When playing as Lae'zel origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)

  • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say that you have already done it Karlach disapproves -1 (This option is available if you have killed either Isobel or your partner in Act Two on demand of your Urge)
  • If Orin is impersonating Fist Rowan, tell her that both sides need a lesson Karlach disapproves -1

Note: This line goes for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any other Origin, except Dark Urge, it might have unique formulation

    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, propose to kill and kill again Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Farlin that you're happy to help them against Cairos and his thugs. Karlach disapproves -1
  • If Orin is impersonating Dying Stone Lord Thug:
  • Playing as an Evil Cleric, choose to make him suffer Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, choose to prod his wound OR to spin the blade Karlach disapproves -1 (either option)
  • If you succeeded a passive DC 20 Perception check, choose to make him scream Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, say that you'll enjoy watching him die slowly Karlach disapproves -1

Circus of the Last Days:

  • At the entrance, convince Klaus to let you in, pretending to be a friend of Gortash's (class-based Deception check) Karlach disapproves -1
  • Dealing with Akabi the djinni, successfully catch him on rigging the wheel, but apologise and say you were mistaken Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talking to Boney the mephit, say his wife Stoney is not your type Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talking to Lucretious after defeating false Dribbles, tell her that real Dribbles is probably dead now Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talking to Shadow-Whiskers with Speak with Animals Speak with Animals, note that her cage looks comfy. Karlach disapproves -1
    • Then tell her to murder whoever she wants OR say "Sure thing, pussycat".Karlach disapproves -1 (either option)
    • Without Speak with Animals Speak with Animals, choose the line "Kill them all, kitty". Karlach disapproves -1
  • Talking to Crimson, refuse to feed him via Speak with Animals Speak with Animals or mock him for being hungry (without the spell) Karlach disapproves -1 (either option)

Watching Dribbles's show:

  • Yell "Boo! Get off the stage!" Karlach disapproves -1
  • When false Dribbles asks for an assistant, choose to cross your arms and glare. Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Just answer "No." Karlach disapproves -1

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

    • First question: 'Raphael' Karlach disapproves -1 OR 'Me' Karlach disapproves -2
    • Second question: 'Going shopping' Karlach disapproves -1 OR 'Reading' Karlach disapproves -2
    • Third question: 'Worshipping Selûne' Karlach disapproves -1

Elsewhere in Rivington:

  • Playing as The Dark Urge, offer Arfur Gregorio to chase the refugees out for free and explain that you just enjoy brutalizing the poor Karlach disapproves -1

Wyrm's Crossing

  • Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to Manip Falcäo.Karlach disapproves -1
  • At Sharess' Caress, point out how Sorn Orlith and Nym Orlith look alike, and then call them "delicious". Karlach disapproves -1

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist barracks:

When you spot Fist Reynash trying to open a chest:

  • Intimidate or blackmail him into giving you his stash Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Fail the Intimidation check to make him surrender his stash Karlach disapproves -1
  • Speaking to Manip Bakshi (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), choose to attack him OR let him arrest you Karlach disapproves -1 (either)

At the Audience Hall:

  • Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that you feel safer Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as a Drow or a Half-Orc, say that you feel safer than with some Karlach disapproves -1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, when Gortash explains your previous dealings:
    • Say that you'll make Orin pay for taking your place Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Reply that you don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant Karlach disapproves -1
  • Agree to become allies with Gortash and slay Orin Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR, Playing as The Dark Urge, refuse to make an alliance, saying that you'll possess both the brain and the crown and won't share Karlach disapproves -1
  • Tell Gortash that you coudn't dream of missing his coronation. Karlach disapproves -1

Talking to Karlach after the coronation:

  • If you agreed to become allies with Gortash:
    • When Karlach asks whether you intend an alliance, answer that it is your decision, not hers Karlach disapproves -5
    • OR Say you'll do whatever to save the city, and then that Gortash had a pact with Ketheric and Orin OR that you wanted to see where it takes Karlach disapproves -5 (either option)
  • If you declined Gortash 's offer:
  • When Karlach asks what you'd make of him, say you're impressed how he wormed his way up Karlach disapproves -5
  • Speaking to Gortash after killing Orin, surrender two your Netherstones to him Karlach disapproves -1
    • OR Say you two can be allies, but you'll keep Ketheric's and Orin's stones Karlach disapproves -3

Lower City

Devil's Fee

  • Upon returning from House of Hope, intimidate Helsik saying that you've just killed a devil in his own home. Karlach disapproves -1

House of Hope

  • Undress for Haarlep. Karlach disapproves -1
  • When Haarlep asks you what form he should take for his game, tell him that you always wanted to have sex with Raphael. Karlach disapproves -1
  • Vow your body to Haarlep. Karlach disapproves -1

Note: It is possible to detach one of your party companions and foist them on Haarlep to play his 'game'. In that case, 'Clothes removal' point is lost always, while 'Vowing body' point distracts only sometimes, if Karlach stands too close to the scene.

Camp/Conversation

  • If Jaheira leaves the team, tell Karlach she can go with her, if it means so much to her. Karlach disapproves -1

Personal quest

  • Kill Gortash without having Karlach in the Party Karlach disapproves -20