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==Overview==
==Overview==
===Background===
===Background===
Withers is a camp companion who offers his various services to the party. Secretive, but wise and ever helpful, he can be found in the [[Dank Crypt]] in Act 1 and remains with the party throughout the game.
Withers is a camp companion who offers his various services to the party. Secretive, but wise and ever helpful, he can be found in the [[Dank Crypt]] in [[Act 1]] and remains with the party throughout the game.


===Gameplay===
===Gameplay===
*Withers is an [[Undead]] creature whose level scales with that of the party
*Withers is an [[Undead]] creature whose level scales with that of the party
*He can be encountered in [[Act 1]] and remains with the party throughout the game
*He can be encountered in Act 1 and remains with the party throughout the game
*He cannot be damaged nor killed
*He cannot be damaged nor killed
*He is the only means of changing class in the game
*He is the only means of changing class in the game
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==Interactions==
==Interactions==
===Act One===
===Act One===
Withers is first encountered in the [[Dank Crypt]] - an ancient temple of Jergal. He is resting inside a sarcophagus within the hidden room. Open the '''Richly Adorned Sarcophagus''' to free him. He will ask a question and then leave.
Withers is first encountered in the [[Dank Crypt]] - an ancient temple of Jergal. He can be found resting inside a sarcophagus within the hidden room. Once freed, he will ask the party a cryptic question and then leave.


Later, Withers will appear at the [[Campsite]] and join as a [[Camp Follower]]. If the player reaches the courtyard of the goblin camp, or progresses far enough without completing [[Explore the Ruins]] and meeting him in the Crypt, this will still happen. If the player then visits the Crypt, they'll still be able to complete the aforementioned quest, but the sarcophagus will be empty.
Later, Withers will appear at the [[Campsite|campsite]] and join as a [[Camp Follower|camp follower]]. If the player reaches the courtyard of the goblin camp, or progresses far enough without completing [[Explore the Ruins]] and meeting him in the crypt, this will still happen. If the player then visits the crypt, they'll still be able to complete the aforementioned quest, but the sarcophagus will be empty.


===Act Two===
===Act Two===
When talking to Withers in [[Moonrise Towers]], the Party can note that he seems to know a lot about the [[Dead Three]].
Withers can be found in [[Moonrise Towers]] after defeating [[Ketheric Thorm]], where he will ask the party whether they think [[Illithid|illithids]] posses souls or not. Regardless of the answer, Withers will affirm that they do not, and he ponders why the [[Dead Three]] would amass an army of soulless beings when souls are what gods need to imbue them with power.


===Act Three===
===Act Three===
A journal found in the [[Grand Mausoleum]] in Baldur's Gate records a meeting between a priest and who they identify as Jergal, the God of Death that preceded the [[Dead Three]]. The journal relates that the priest ''"came face to face with him: Masked in gold, his skin fine and worn as parchment. Jergal, the death-keeper, the End of Everything. I asked what he needed of me. He asked a simple question: 'What is the worth of a single mortal's life?'"''. This is the same question asked of the player by Withers when roused from his sarcophagus in Act One.
{{SpoilerDurge|If the player is playing as [[The Dark Urge]] and refuses to become the Chosen of [[Bhaal]] after killing [[Orin]], Bhaal will seemingly kill the player character. However, in the final moment, Withers will appear and tell the player that while Bhaal could destroy his own spawn, he could not destroy the new self that the character had become by resisting the Dark Urge. He pronounces the player character redeemed and free of Bhaal's influence.|nograd=1}}
 
Withers can be found among the allies and companions gathered in [[High Hall]] for the final battle against the [[Netherbrain]]. He will offer his services as always, as well as offer some words of encouragement for the fight ahead.


{{SpoilerDurge|If the player is playing as [[The Dark Urge]] and refuses to become the Chosen of [[Bhaal]] after killing [[Orin]], Bhaal will seemingly kill the player character. However, in the final moment, Withers will appear and tell the player that while Bhaal could destroy his own spawn, he could not destroy the new self that the character had become by resisting the Dark Urge. He pronounces the player character redeemed and free of Bhaal's influence.|nograd=1}}
Six months after the events of the game, Withers extends an invitation to all companions, gathering them all at the campsite that served as home for many days for a celebratory party. For this, he has prepared food and beverage, a fact many companions remark upon with surprise, as well as summon [[Milil]], a former god trapped in the Fugue Plane, to provide music and entertainment. After mingling with the guests, he can be spoken to and he will offer a toast to the heroes of Baldur's Gate, telling them that there may yet be a time where they are called to action once more.


In the after credits scene, Withers is seen talking to a mural of the Dead Three disappointed in their actions and telling them that he overestimated them.
In the after credits scene, Withers is seen talking to a mural of the Dead Three disappointed in their actions and telling them that he overestimated them.
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==Personality==
==Personality==
==Identity==
Though the game never explicitly states it, it heavily implies Withers is actually [[Jergal]], the erstwhile ''Lord of the End of Everything'' who willingly gave up his powers to the [[Dead Three]].
===In-game information===
* He is initially found in a crypt that, through exploration and a successful [[Religion]] check, is confirmed to be a shrine of Jergal
* The undead spellcasters are designated as scribes, and Jergal is also known as ''"the Final Scribe"''
* The {{RarityItem|Book of Dead Gods}} can be found nearby, containing a clear reference to the Dead Three
* In the after credits scene, Withers can be seen talking in a familiar tone about how disappointed he is in the Dead Three and how he overestimated them
* In the [[Ancient Mausoleum]], a {{RarityItem|Crumbling Journal}} can be found, detailing the encounter of a mortal with Jergal
** Jergal's physical appearance is described as ''masked in gold, his skin fine and worn as parchment''
** Jergal asks the mortal ''"What is the worth of a single mortal's life?"'' much like Withers when freed from his sarcophagus
* Paladins and clerics can feel divine energy from Withers: ''"He has a divine aspect, yes. A reflection of death itself. Eternal and inescapable."''
**If asked whether he's a god's Chosen he will refuse to answer questions in that regard
* When spoken to by a new companion, Withers will remark ''"Ah, another. Thy name has been recorded."'' alluding to his title as ''"the Final Scribe"''
** Likewise, when requested to resurrect a companion, he will refer to the companion as being ''"stricken from the record"''
* Clerics of Kelemvor may sense something familiar in him, prompting Withers to reply ''"Thou walk with death, child of Kelemvor. That is enough for an understanding between us"'' and ''"No, although Kelemvor chose wise to bless one such as yourself"'' when asked about it.
===Outside information===
* Withers' official concept art refers to him as Jergal
* Datamined content confirms that Withers is Jergal, compelled by Helm to assist the players as penance{{ref|Chubblot (2020). ''[https://old.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/jj3zto/spoilersdatamining_chubblots_datamining_thread/ Chubblot's Datamining Thread]''. Reddit.<br>''"After the party has slain a group of undead scholars, the judge of death--Jergal--climbs out of his sarcophagus to greet them. He has been locked inside for years by the god Helm to atone for his part in raising the Dead Three, wicked gods who are now plotting to conquer the realms. Jergal is emotionless and excessively formal, both resigned to his fate and that of others. He is here to assist the party because that is his divine oath, not out of any true desire to act. Players can attempt to goad or attack him, but to minimal effect, as he is functionally immortal. His only goal was to see their faces, so he can find them at camp later to offer further assistance."''}}{{ref|Chubblot (2020). ''[https://old.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/jj3zto/spoilersdatamining_chubblots_datamining_thread/ Chubblot's Datamining Thread]''. Reddit.<br>''"Jergal, a god of the dead, awaits the player in camp. He is bound by the judgment of another god - Helm - to assist the players as penance for past crimes. He provides resurrection services to the players."''}}
* Internal game files refer to him as "JergalAvatar"


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
* Voiced by Stephen Boxer
* Withers puts the gold he receives for his services into a pickpocketable inventory, so players may steal back any money paid. Withers will not react to failed pickpocketing, allowing unlimited attempts.
* Withers puts the gold he receives for his services into a pickpocketable inventory, so players may steal back any money paid. Withers will not react to failed pickpocketing, allowing unlimited attempts.
* Withers cannot be damaged and is functionally invincible
* Withers cannot be damaged and is functionally invincible
* In Early Access he was initially called The Hooded Skeleton even though he had no visible hood. He was later renamed to Talkative Skeleton and then, finally, Withers.  
* In Early Access he was initially called The Hooded Skeleton even though he had no visible hood. He was later renamed to Talkative Skeleton and finally Withers.  
* If you speak with a hireling, it is revealed Withers is in fact remotely controlling them. In a sense, that makes Withers indirectly a companion as well.
* If you speak with a hireling, it is revealed Withers is in fact controlling them remotely. In a sense, that makes Withers indirectly a companion as well.
* It is heavily implied that Withers is either an avatar of [[Jergal]] or Jergal himself.
** He is found in the Temple of Jergal and scribes bear Jergal's insignia.
** In Withers' official concept art (see gallery below) he is referred to as Jergal
** In the after credits scene Withers is talking about how disappointed he is in the Dead Three and how he overestimated them.
** The question Withers asks the player when released from his sarcophagus, "What is the worth of a single mortal's life?", is the same question recorded as asked of a priest by Jergal in a journal in the Ancient Mousoleum in the Baldur's Gate graveyard.
** As a Paladin or Cleric you can feel divine energy from Withers. ''"He has a divine aspect, yes. A reflection of death itself. Eternal and inescapable."'' If you ask him if he's a god's Chosen he will refuse to answer questions in that regard.
** When a character dies and is resurrected by Withers, he states that the character's name has been "stricken from the record", and when a new companion first speaks to Withers, he states "Ah, another. Thy name has been recorded."  Jergal is also known as "Nakasr, The Final Scribe" who is responsible for keeping record of the ultimate fate of all mortals.
** As a Cleric of Kelemvor, you will receive unique dialogue when talking to Withers. You will sense something familiar about him when you first meet him. He will say unique lines such as ''"Thou walk with death, child of Kelemvor. That is enough for an understanding between us"'' and ''"No, although Kelemvor chose wise to bless one such as yourself"'' when replying to your questions.
===Datamined content===
According to datamined notes, Withers ''is'' [[Jergal]]. The datamined notes say that he is compelled by Helm to assist the players as penance.
* From the Chapel dialog notes:
{{Q|After the party has slain a group of undead scholars, the judge of death--Jergal--climbs out of his sarcophagus to greet them. He has been locked inside for years by the god Helm to atone for his part in raising the Dead Three, wicked gods who are now plotting to conquer the realms. Jergal is emotionless and excessively formal, both resigned to his fate and that of others. He is here to assist the party because that is his divine oath, not out of any true desire to act. Players can attempt to goad or attack him, but to minimal effect, as he is functionally immortal. His only goal was to see their faces, so he can find them at camp later to offer further assistance.}}
* From the Camp dialog notes:
{{Q|Jergal, a god of the dead, awaits the player in camp. He is bound by the judgment of another god - Helm - to assist the players as penance for past crimes. He provides resurrection services to the players.}}
* Internal game files refer to him as "JergalAvatar" (or more specifically, <code>S_GLO_JergalAvatar_0133f2ad-e121-4590-b5f0-a79413919805</code>).


== Achievements ==
== Achievements ==
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Party withers.png|Withers as featured in [https://baldursgate3.game/news/community-update-24-looking-to-the-future_88 Community update #24]
Party withers.png|Withers as featured in [https://baldursgate3.game/news/community-update-24-looking-to-the-future_88 Community update #24]
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==References==
{{reflist}}


== External Links ==
== External Links ==

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Withers
Withers-face.png
Stats
Level 1

STR

10

DEX

10

CON

10

INT

10

WIS

18
(+4)

CHA

10
Bg3 content hr.png
Creature Race Icon.png  Race [[Skeleton|Skeleton]]
Creature Type Icon.png  Type Undead
HP Icon.png  HP 1
Creature AC Icon.png  AC 10
Creature Speed Icon.png  Movement Speed 9m / 30ft
Creature Size Icon.png  Size Medium
Weight Icon.png  Weight 50kg / 100lbs
Proficiency Icon.png  Proficiency Bonus +2
Initiative Icon.png  Initiative +0
Passive features
Character information
Location Dank Crypt
Campsite
Faction Church of Jergal
Additional information
Voice actor Stephen Boxer
Models
Withers Model.png

Withers is a mysterious undead entity that joins the player on their adventures as a camp follower. He calls himself "a scribe, a seneschal - a keeper of records", and offers resurrection services to the party, allows characters to change or reset their class and provides the services of hirelings.

What is the worth of a single mortal's life?
Withers


Overview

Background

Withers is a camp companion who offers his various services to the party. Secretive, but wise and ever helpful, he can be found in the Dank Crypt in Act 1 and remains with the party throughout the game.

Gameplay

  • Withers is an Undead creature whose level scales with that of the party
  • He can be encountered in Act 1 and remains with the party throughout the game
  • He cannot be damaged nor killed
  • He is the only means of changing class in the game

Quests

Services

  • Withers will resurrect dead companions for a 200 gold fee per resurrection
  • He offers the service of hirelings, recruitable characters that can be added to aid your party who, unlike regular companions, do not have related quests or interactions
  • He is able to resurrect hirelings for 100 gold per resurrection
  • Withers can also change the class of a character for 100 gold, setting them back to level 1 and allowing them to change their class, subclasses, spells, ability scores, etc.
    • Characters cannot change their race, appearance, origin, or background
    • Paladins who have broken their oaths cannot access this class change, they must retake their vows first through the Oathbreaker Knight
  • Though not directly through him, his Magic Mirror can be used to change the appearance of non-origin characters

Interactions

Act One

Withers is first encountered in the Dank Crypt - an ancient temple of Jergal. He can be found resting inside a sarcophagus within the hidden room. Once freed, he will ask the party a cryptic question and then leave.

Later, Withers will appear at the campsite and join as a camp follower. If the player reaches the courtyard of the goblin camp, or progresses far enough without completing Explore the Ruins and meeting him in the crypt, this will still happen. If the player then visits the crypt, they'll still be able to complete the aforementioned quest, but the sarcophagus will be empty.

Act Two

Withers can be found in Moonrise Towers after defeating Ketheric Thorm, where he will ask the party whether they think illithids posses souls or not. Regardless of the answer, Withers will affirm that they do not, and he ponders why the Dead Three would amass an army of soulless beings when souls are what gods need to imbue them with power.

Act Three

Background HauntedOne Icon.png Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.

If the player is playing as The Dark Urge and refuses to become the Chosen of Bhaal after killing Orin, Bhaal will seemingly kill the player character. However, in the final moment, Withers will appear and tell the player that while Bhaal could destroy his own spawn, he could not destroy the new self that the character had become by resisting the Dark Urge. He pronounces the player character redeemed and free of Bhaal's influence.

Withers can be found among the allies and companions gathered in High Hall for the final battle against the Netherbrain. He will offer his services as always, as well as offer some words of encouragement for the fight ahead.

Six months after the events of the game, Withers extends an invitation to all companions, gathering them all at the campsite that served as home for many days for a celebratory party. For this, he has prepared food and beverage, a fact many companions remark upon with surprise, as well as summon Milil, a former god trapped in the Fugue Plane, to provide music and entertainment. After mingling with the guests, he can be spoken to and he will offer a toast to the heroes of Baldur's Gate, telling them that there may yet be a time where they are called to action once more.

In the after credits scene, Withers is seen talking to a mural of the Dead Three disappointed in their actions and telling them that he overestimated them.

Combat

Loot

Withers cannot be killed and looted.

History

Personality

Identity

Though the game never explicitly states it, it heavily implies Withers is actually Jergal, the erstwhile Lord of the End of Everything who willingly gave up his powers to the Dead Three.

In-game information

  • He is initially found in a crypt that, through exploration and a successful Religion check, is confirmed to be a shrine of Jergal
  • The undead spellcasters are designated as scribes, and Jergal is also known as "the Final Scribe"
  • The Book of Dead Gods can be found nearby, containing a clear reference to the Dead Three
  • In the after credits scene, Withers can be seen talking in a familiar tone about how disappointed he is in the Dead Three and how he overestimated them
  • In the Ancient Mausoleum, a Crumbling Journal can be found, detailing the encounter of a mortal with Jergal
    • Jergal's physical appearance is described as masked in gold, his skin fine and worn as parchment
    • Jergal asks the mortal "What is the worth of a single mortal's life?" much like Withers when freed from his sarcophagus
  • Paladins and clerics can feel divine energy from Withers: "He has a divine aspect, yes. A reflection of death itself. Eternal and inescapable."
    • If asked whether he's a god's Chosen he will refuse to answer questions in that regard
  • When spoken to by a new companion, Withers will remark "Ah, another. Thy name has been recorded." alluding to his title as "the Final Scribe"
    • Likewise, when requested to resurrect a companion, he will refer to the companion as being "stricken from the record"
  • Clerics of Kelemvor may sense something familiar in him, prompting Withers to reply "Thou walk with death, child of Kelemvor. That is enough for an understanding between us" and "No, although Kelemvor chose wise to bless one such as yourself" when asked about it.

Outside information

  • Withers' official concept art refers to him as Jergal
  • Datamined content confirms that Withers is Jergal, compelled by Helm to assist the players as penance[1][2]
  • Internal game files refer to him as "JergalAvatar"

Notes

  • Withers puts the gold he receives for his services into a pickpocketable inventory, so players may steal back any money paid. Withers will not react to failed pickpocketing, allowing unlimited attempts.
  • Withers cannot be damaged and is functionally invincible
  • In Early Access he was initially called The Hooded Skeleton even though he had no visible hood. He was later renamed to Talkative Skeleton and finally Withers.
  • If you speak with a hireling, it is revealed Withers is in fact controlling them remotely. In a sense, that makes Withers indirectly a companion as well.

Achievements

A-Outsourcing.jpg

Outsourcing
Recruit a hireling. You can befriend them or use them as cannon-fodder - we won't judge.


Gallery

References

  1. Chubblot (2020). Chubblot's Datamining Thread. Reddit.
    "After the party has slain a group of undead scholars, the judge of death--Jergal--climbs out of his sarcophagus to greet them. He has been locked inside for years by the god Helm to atone for his part in raising the Dead Three, wicked gods who are now plotting to conquer the realms. Jergal is emotionless and excessively formal, both resigned to his fate and that of others. He is here to assist the party because that is his divine oath, not out of any true desire to act. Players can attempt to goad or attack him, but to minimal effect, as he is functionally immortal. His only goal was to see their faces, so he can find them at camp later to offer further assistance."
  2. Chubblot (2020). Chubblot's Datamining Thread. Reddit.
    "Jergal, a god of the dead, awaits the player in camp. He is bound by the judgment of another god - Helm - to assist the players as penance for past crimes. He provides resurrection services to the players."

External Links