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'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | ||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* Talking to | * Talking to Jaheira for the first time, tell her that you are here on holiday. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
'' | ''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | ||
* | * If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | ||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} | ** Agree to help him kidnap Isobel OR say that you are going to take the cleric yourself {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | ||
** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, tell Isobel that "we are following the winged freak" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | |||
** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(available after the kidnap attempt AND if you haven't threatened her)'' | |||
''Speaking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | ''Speaking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | ||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ||
* When she tells you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, conclude that she abandoned others {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When she tells you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, conclude that she abandoned others {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Class|Monk}} or {{Class|Paladin}} (except [[Oathbreaker]]))'' | ||
* Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | * Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | ||
** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ||
** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, a {{Race|Deep Gnome}} or a {{Race|Duergar}}, say that only the strong survive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, a {{Race|Deep Gnome}} or a {{Race|Duergar}}, say that only the strong survive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When Alfira supposes that surviving tieflings were taken to the [[Moonrise Towers]]: | * When Alfira supposes that surviving tieflings were taken to the [[Moonrise Towers]]: | ||
** Promise you will find them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Promise you will find them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ||
** OR Say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Talk to | * Talk to Alfira after [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescuing the tieflings]] from [[Moonrise Towers]] and take the reward {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(If [[Lakrissa]] survived, talking to her starts the same cutscene)'' | ||
''Speaking with [[Bex]] and [[Danis]]:'' | |||
* Before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|save captured refugees]]: | |||
** Promise Bex to find Danis, using any of two basic options or {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Cleric}} lines {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
** OR Tell her that Danis is now goblin chow toy OR that they've probably killed and eaten him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
* If Danis '''died''' while saving attempt, tell Bex that he is better off dead than abandoned in Moonrise {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If Danis '''survived''' and reunited with Bex: | |||
** Smile and then say it's wonderful to see them together OR mention that it is all thanks to you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | |||
''Dealing with [[Rolan]], [[Cal]] and [[Lia]]:'' | |||
* Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | |||
** Tell him that his siblings are better off dead than in cult's hands {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell him to stop whining and do something about it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, tell him he won't be able to read his spellbook if he keeps drinking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If you have already saved him from the [[Shadow]]s, say you're absolutely going to gloat {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If either Cal or Lia (or both) '''died''' while saving attempt: | |||
** Tell Rolan that you wanted to save everyone, but couldn't {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Garble their names and say you don't know them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If both siblings '''survived''': | |||
** After they thank you, ask Rolan whether he has something to add {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask who is going to pay you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If Rolan died in battle with Shadows, tell either Cal or Lia that he died as he lived - stupidly {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken [[Rolan]] has snapped on her:'' | |||
* Say you're sorry, and then add that he is more immature than she is {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* OR Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil": | |||
** Say that he was observant for it's what she really is. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell her next time call him one back {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* When Ide shows you the [[The Way of the Wanderer|book]] she means to keep for Rolan, convince her to give it to you, using [[Deception]], [[Intimidation]] or [[Persuasion]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option, requiring a DC 14 roll)'' | |||
''Dealing with [[Raphael]] and [[Mol]]:'' | ''Dealing with [[Raphael]] and [[Mol]]:'' | ||
* Help | * Help Mol win the game against Raphael using the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}}, or {{Class|Wizard}} options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you '''haven't ever seen his scars prior''''' | ▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you '''haven't ever seen his scars prior''''' | ||
* After | * After Mol is taken during the assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Meygan|Harper Meygan]] mourning [[Yonas]]:'' | |||
* Say that Yonas was better at jokes than at keeping himself alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Say that he'd still be around if he'd spent less time on joking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If you looted Yonas's body, ask Meygan whether she would like to take Yonas's sword, then say you were kidding and keep it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Talking to the [[Strange Ox]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Promise to keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell the ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | ''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | ||
* | * When [[Vidor|Manip Vidor]] says you are meant to be heading towards Moonrise, answer "doing your job, you mean" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** If you did it and ended the dialogue, speak to him again and call him a prick second time {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | '''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | ||
''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ||
* | * Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | ||
'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | * OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
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* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, give in to your urge to kill the ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' These options are available if you haven't resolved interactions with the Ox in the [[Act Two]]'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' These options are available if you haven't resolved interactions with the Ox in the [[Act Two]]'' | ||
* Speaking to [[Biscotti]] without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, choose to bare your teeth and growl {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(works only the first time you speak to him)'' | * Speaking to [[Biscotti]] without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, choose to bare your teeth and growl {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(works only the first time you speak to him)'' | ||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, say that there's no shame in being outmatched in the fight {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, say that there's no shame in being outmatched in the fight {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | ||
* | ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, drink the spiked wine {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Playing as | * If you have talked to [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]] already and know his mission, try to convince Jaheira that he is a spy {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Isobel]]:'' | |||
* During [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus's]] assault, explain to Isobel that he is going to kidnap her {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* When she tells you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, say that she did the right thing {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreaker Paladin}})'' | |||
''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* Ask her about others, and then say that it was a cowardly move {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* If you successfully [[Rescue the Tieflings]], speak to Alfira again. When she asks how did you do it, answer that you were being a hero {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | |||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, curb your yearn to tear the [[Strange Ox]] apart. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Speaking to drunken [[Rolan]] before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]], promise to rescue his siblings if they are alive OR say that it is your responsibility to bring them back {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
* After saving the refugees, when [[Bex]] asks why you helped, answer that you did it because they were in trouble {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | |||
'''[[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | '''At the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | ||
* | * Agree to give up all your gold to [[Gerringothe Thorm]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | '''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' |
Latest revision as of 17:40, 28 November 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage)
- "The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.