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'''[[Ravaged Beach]]''' | '''[[Ravaged Beach]]''' | ||
* Free her from her pod aboard the Nautiloid, wake her up on the [[Ravaged Beach]] and have her join your active group. | * Free her from her pod aboard the Nautiloid, wake her up on the [[Ravaged Beach]] and have her join your active group. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+10}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If there are too many characters and she can't join, these points will not be acquired.'' | |||
* Accept [[Astarion|Astarion's]] apologies and say you would have done the same {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Accept [[Astarion|Astarion's]] apologies and say you would have done the same {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Use [[Animal Handling]] to calm the Scared Boar found near [[Astarion]]'s pod OR tell it that you won't hurt it via [[Speak with Animals]] | * Use [[Animal Handling]] to calm the Scared Boar found near [[Astarion]]'s pod OR tell it that you won't hurt it via [[Speak with Animals]] ''(either option)''{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
'''[[Roadside cliffs]]''' | '''[[Roadside cliffs]]''' | ||
* Convince the tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] to shoot her down (using [[Persuasion]] option). {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} '' | * Convince the tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] to shoot her down (using [[Persuasion]] option). {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:'' Taking this course makes you to ultimately choose between losing a companion and getting disapproval'' | |||
** Attack [[Lae'zel]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ** Attack [[Lae'zel]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
* Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after | * Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after convincing the tieflings to leave. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Resolve the encounter with [[Gimblebock]] near the [[Chapel Entrance]] without violence {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Resolve the encounter with [[Gimblebock]] near the [[Chapel Entrance]] without violence {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* In the [[Dank Crypt]], successfully open the [[Book of Dead Gods]] (using any regular or class-based option) and pass the {{Ability check|Religion|10}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * In the [[Dank Crypt]], successfully open the [[Book of Dead Gods]] (using any regular or class-based option) and pass the {{Ability check|Religion|10}} {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
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** OR While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after Ethel disappears, tell Demir and Johl that they're on their own. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ** OR While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after Ethel disappears, tell Demir and Johl that they're on their own. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]] or [[Sorcerer]], tell [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] to 'trust a more experienced soul' after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappeares. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]] or [[Sorcerer]], tell [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] to 'trust a more experienced soul' after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappeares. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
*After entering the [[Sunlit Wetlands]], | * After entering the [[Sunlit Wetlands]], break the illusion by any available means, then say 'BAA' at the Redcaps when you speak to them {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(works twice)'' | ||
* <u>Chasing</u> after [[Auntie Ethel]] in her lair, speak to [[Lorin]] and roar at him. | * <u>Chasing</u> after [[Auntie Ethel]] in her lair, speak to [[Lorin]] and roar at him. | ||
* Ask the Gnarled Door whether there is another way in, then pass the [[Intimidation]] check {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(Reports of no approval in this instance on PS5 at this time{{verify}})'' | * Ask the Gnarled Door whether there is another way in, then pass the [[Intimidation]] check {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(Reports of no approval in this instance on PS5 at this time{{verify}})'' | ||
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''In captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ''In captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ||
* Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | * Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | ||
* | * Refuse to hand over the artefact to the Inquisitor [[W'wargaz]], and convince [[Lae'zel]] to trust you by succeeding {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or by reminding her of the zaith'isk (if you've learned the truth about it prior). {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Refuse [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Refuse [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
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▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only if you haven't ever seen her [[Daughter of Darkness#A mysterious wound|wound]] manifesting itself prior'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only if you haven't ever seen her [[Daughter of Darkness#A mysterious wound|wound]] manifesting itself prior'' | ||
* When Shadowheart wants to speak with you about Sharran worship herself, tell her to continue {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}. | * When Shadowheart wants to speak with you about Sharran worship herself, tell her to continue {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}. | ||
* When Shadowheart shares with you her memories about becoming a Sharran through the tadpole ('girl in the woods' cutscene), agree, then say this can't have been easy to her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | |||
** Then, when she tells you about her dream of becoming a [[Dark Justiciar]], ask if Mother Superior would ever relent {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** Then, when she tells you about her dream of becoming a [[Dark Justiciar]], ask if Mother Superior would ever relent {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
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'''[[Ruined Battlefield]]'''<br> | '''[[Ruined Battlefield]]'''<br> | ||
''If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | ''If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | ||
* Order [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. | * <u>Order</u> [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. | ||
* Convince [[Kar'niss]] the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. | * <u>Convince</u> [[Kar'niss]] the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. | ||
* Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them from ambushing Harpers, and then: | * <u>Traversing</u> [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them from ambushing Harpers, and then: | ||
** Convince the drider through [[Deception]] to give you the lantern | ** <u>Convince</u> the drider through [[Deception]] to give you the lantern | ||
** Then use [[Intimidation]] or [[Deception]] to convince the drider to walk away into the shadows | ** <u>Then use</u> [[Intimidation]] or [[Deception]] to convince the drider to walk away into the shadows | ||
* When judging with [[He Who Was]], order [[Madeline]] to stab herself, then to continue , and finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going . | *<u> When judging</u> with [[He Who Was]], order [[Madeline]] to stab herself, then to continue , and finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going . | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | ||
* Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to [[Jaheira]] inside. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to [[Jaheira]] inside. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Isobel]] that [[Flaming Fist Marcus|Marcus]] plans to kidnap her when he attacks the [[Last Light Inn]]. | * <u>Tell</u> [[Isobel]] that [[Flaming Fist Marcus|Marcus]] plans to kidnap her when he attacks the [[Last Light Inn]]. | ||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell [[Isobel]] that your blood orders you to kill her, then deny the urge, and finally ask her to forgive you. | * <u>Playing</u> as [[The Dark Urge]], tell [[Isobel]] that your blood orders you to kill her, then deny the urge, and finally ask her to forgive you. | ||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]''' | '''[[Reithwin Town]]''' | ||
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* OR Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | * OR Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ||
* Persuade [[Gerringothe Thorm]] that there's no one to oversee her | * <u>Persuade</u> [[Gerringothe Thorm]] that there's no one to oversee her | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}''(each time)'' | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
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* By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''In [[Sharran Sanctuary]] under the town square:'' | ''In [[Sharran Sanctuary]] under the town square:'' | ||
* Perform the blood offering at the secret altar to Shar | * <u>Perform</u> the blood offering at the secret altar to Shar | ||
'''[[House in Deep Shadows]]''' | '''[[House in Deep Shadows]]''' | ||
* Agree to play hide-and-seek with [[Oliver]] | * <u>Agree</u> to play hide-and-seek with [[Oliver]] | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | ||
* Playing as a [[Rogue]], tell the [[Reconstituted Duellist]] that you do not blunder. | * <u>Playing</u> as a [[Rogue]], tell the [[Reconstituted Duellist]] that you do not blunder. | ||
* Persuade [[Balthazar]] to give you the bell to summon [[Flesh]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Persuade [[Balthazar]] to give you the bell to summon [[Flesh]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask [[Balthazar]] what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask [[Balthazar]] what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
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* If you agreed to help [[Yurgir]], detect thoughts on the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * If you agreed to help [[Yurgir]], detect thoughts on the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Agree to peace with the rats after interacting with the Broken Effigy in exchange for their treasure {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Agree to peace with the rats after interacting with the Broken Effigy in exchange for their treasure {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Offer peace when speaking directly with [[Lyrthindor]] after interacting with the Effigy and defeating the rat horde | * <u>Offer</u> peace when speaking directly with [[Lyrthindor]] after interacting with the Effigy and defeating the rat horde | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | '''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | ||
* Use [[Persuasion]] | * <u>Use</u> [[Persuasion]] on [[Disciple Z'rell]] to explain yourself about letting goblins go, saying that they won't get far | ||
* | * <u>At the</u> [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that you can help, or that it isn't too late, or to come quietly {{Approval|Shadowheart|}} ''(either choice)'' | ||
* | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first, OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ||
:* Then tell [[Dame Aylin|Aylin]] to stand down, because [[Ketheric]] has surrendered. | |||
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
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'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
* Give Shadowheart a [[Night Orchid]] | * <u>Give</u> Shadowheart a [[Night Orchid]] | ||
* When Shadowheart (Selûnite) asks you what you think of her new look, tell her if it helps her put the past behind her | * <u>When</u> Shadowheart (Selûnite) asks you what you think of her new look, tell her you're all for it if it helps her put the past behind. | ||
'''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]''' | |||
* Near the [[Gauntlet of Shar|Pedestal of Reckoning]], tell Shadowheart you'll help her surmount Shar's trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | |||
* Let Shadowheart step up at the sacrificial bowl at the each of the [[Gauntlet of Shar]] trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(each trial)'' | |||
* At the Verge of the Shadows, while Shadowheart is praying, pry into her mind and then suggest to move on {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | |||
* In the [[Nightsong's Prison]], select the option to ''not interfere.'' {{Approval|Shadowheart|+10}} | |||
* When talking to [[Dame Aylin]] at the camp, tell Shadowheart you'll help to save her parents {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(available if Shadowheart defied Shar)'' | |||
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'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | ||
* Say you're uniquely good at tracking things down when persuading [[Yurgir]] | * Say you're uniquely good at tracking things down when persuading [[Yurgir]] | ||
* Tell [[Lyrthindor]] the world is better off without Shar worshippers {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Tell [[Lyrthindor]] the world is better off without Shar worshippers {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Lick the [[Spider meat|dead spider]] twice {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(each time)'' | |||
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* | * At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. | ||
* | * When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to "consume" the mind. | ||
'''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]''' | |||
* Near the [[Gauntlet of Shar|Pedestal of Reckoning]], tell Shadowheart that passing Shar's trials is a distraction OR that you're here only to uncover Ketheric's secrets {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} ''(either)'' | |||
* After installing first [[Umbral Gem]] into the Pedestal of Reckoning, tell Shadowheart that searching for the [[Spear of Night]] is nonsence {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* At the Verge of the Shadows, while Shadowheart is praying: | |||
** Successfully pry inside Shadowheart's mind {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(requires a {{Ability check|Wisdom|16}})'' | |||
** Fail the Wisdom check to pry inside her mind {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | |||
** When she angers, tell her to forget about whatever she's going to do in Shadowfell {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | |||
}} | }} | ||
Latest revision as of 18:53, 30 June 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.
Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.
Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- "What do you want?"
- "What?"
- "What is it?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Something the matter?"
Medium and up - Sharran (20+ approval):
- "May the darkness protect you."
- "Shar's blessing upon you."
- "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"
Medium and up - Selunite (20+):
- "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
- "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
- "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I don't answer to you - move along."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting (20+ approval):
- "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
- "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
- "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
- "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"
Flirting - Low approval:
- "Hmm. You wanted something?"
- "In need of attention, I take it?"
- "Oh, you're back."
- "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"
Partnered (40+ approval):
- "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
- "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
- "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
- "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"
Partnered - Low approval:
- "I hope this is important."
- "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
- "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
- "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
- "Yes?"
Broken Up (40+ approval):
- "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
- "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
- "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
- "What can I do for you?"
Broken Up - Low approval:
- "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
- "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
- "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
- "Spit it out then."
- "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."
Approval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.