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* Save [[Rugan]], then use [[Persuasion]] to convince him to sell his employer's wares {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Save [[Rugan]], then use [[Persuasion]] to convince him to sell his employer's wares {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | * Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | ||
'''[[Waukeen's Rest]]''' | |||
* Tell [[Benryn]] you'll keep the dowry as a payment for his saving {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | '''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | ||
* Successfully [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] the guard [[Salazon]] to let you go through the hatch to the hideout {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Successfully [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] the guard [[Salazon]] to let you go through the hatch to the hideout {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, show him single-hand sign ''"profit"''{{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, show him single-hand sign ''"profit"''{{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
* | * Get access into the hideout peacefully {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* | * Purchasing [[Oskar Fevras]], make Brem lower the price through [[Intimidation]] or [[Persuasion]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Make him let Oskar go for free, using any check-based option {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''[[Underdark]]''' | '''[[Underdark]]''' | ||
* When entering the [[ | * When entering the myconid colony, tell Sovereign [[Spaw]] the truth about the parasite {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR | ** OR Succeed an [[Intimidation]], [[Persuasion]] or [[Insight]] roll to enter the colony peacefully {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Playing a {{Race| | ** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, {{Race|Duergar}} or {{Race|Deep Gnome}}, say that the Underdark is your home and you don't need a permission to pass {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Steal the [[Boots of Speed]] from Thulla.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Steal the [[Boots of Speed]] from Thulla.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Obtain the [[Ring of Mind-Shielding]] from [[Omeluum]] (either through [[Intimidation]], [[Persuasion]], or providing it with the description of the nautiloid) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Obtain the [[Ring of Mind-Shielding]] from [[Omeluum]] (either through [[Intimidation]], [[Persuasion]], or providing it with the description of the nautiloid) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Successfully [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] | * Tell [[Derryth Bonecloak]] you're going to keep the [[Noblestalk]] for yourself {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Successfully [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] her into giving you reward for the finding, then take the reward and keep the mushroom.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* In [[Festering Cove]], tell [[BOOOAL]] he is a fake god and tell him you will kill him and take his power {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * In [[Festering Cove]], tell [[BOOOAL]] he is a fake god and tell him you will kill him and take his power {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell [[BOOOAL]] you won't let him enslave the [[Kuo-toa]] any longer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR Tell [[BOOOAL]] you won't let him enslave the [[Kuo-toa]] any longer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** ** If you find out that BOOOAL is a Redcap, bait him with a tale of bloodshed instead of sacrifice {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''[[Grymforge]]''' | '''[[Grymforge]]''' | ||
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** OR [[Persuasion|Convince]] the Deep Rothé to give in to their rage and attack the duergar {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR [[Persuasion|Convince]] the Deep Rothé to give in to their rage and attack the duergar {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Convince [[Elder Brithvar]] to free the deep gnomes after the fight with [[Nere]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Convince [[Elder Brithvar]] to free the deep gnomes after the fight with [[Nere]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* If you killed the duergar (both rebels and Absolutists) before freeing [[Nere]], plant a thought in Nere's mind about freeing the gnome slaves {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Give Shadowheart the [[Idol of Shar]] and tell her that you'll try to find anything else {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | * Give Shadowheart the [[Idol of Shar]] and tell her that you'll try to find anything else {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
'''[[Mountain Pass]]''' | '''[[Mountain Pass]]''' | ||
* Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, tell [[Ellyka]] that githyanki patrol means nothing to you, getting her to stand down. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, tell [[Ellyka]] that githyanki patrol means nothing to you, getting her to stand down. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR, Being [[Disguise Self|disguised]] as a gith, tell her you're actually not OR that she is safe. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR, Being [[Disguise Self|disguised]] as a gith, tell her you're actually not OR that she is safe. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* | * Speak with [[Voss]] instead of letting [[Lae'zel]] do it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(any line of two available)'' | ||
** OR Attack him straightaway {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Voss]], successfully pass the [[Deception]] check to resolve the encounter peacefully {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | |||
'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | '''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | ||
* Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Gish Far'aag]] that [[Voss]] sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of Vlaakith and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Ranger}}, [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] Far'aag, saying you're hunting either mind flayers or the gith {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''In the infirmary:'' | ''In the infirmary:'' | ||
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* Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | * Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | ||
* Refuse to hand over the artefact to the Inquisitor [[W'wargaz]], and convince [[Lae'zel]] to trust you by succeeding {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or by reminding her of the zaith'isk (if you've learned the truth about it prior). {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Refuse to hand over the artefact to the Inquisitor [[W'wargaz]], and convince [[Lae'zel]] to trust you by succeeding {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or by reminding her of the zaith'isk (if you've learned the truth about it prior). {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Refuse [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Refuse [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] or say you're going to free the person inside {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
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* Agree with Shadowheart that illithid powers cannot be trusted despite the power they grant. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Agree with Shadowheart that illithid powers cannot be trusted despite the power they grant. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only after using 'illithid' line for the first time in a conversation''. | ▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only after using 'illithid' line for the first time in a conversation''. | ||
* After speaking with [[Zorru]] and learning about the Githyanki Crèche: Remind [[Shadowheart]] this could be your last night together, probe her thoughts using [[Illithid]] [[Wisdom]], and suggest a tavern to celebrate properly {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When [[Mizora]] first appears in the camp, tell her not to lay a finger on [[Karlach]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * When [[Mizora]] first appears in the camp, tell her not to lay a finger on [[Karlach]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* When [[Lae'zel]] intends to kill everyone to prevent them transforming, talk her out of it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | * When [[Lae'zel]] intends to kill everyone to prevent them transforming, talk her out of it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
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* When talking to [[Halsin]] on the morning after the camp celebration, say that you prefer to take the route through Underdark. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * When talking to [[Halsin]] on the morning after the camp celebration, say that you prefer to take the route through Underdark. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* <u>Use</u> [[Persuasion]] to successfully convince her to explore the illithid powers | * <u>Use</u> [[Persuasion]] to successfully convince her to explore the illithid powers | ||
** | ** OR Tell her that perhaps resist the temptation of tadpole powers is right {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Do nothing when Shadowheart tries to kill Lae'zel {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(Lae'zel permanently dies)'' | * Do nothing when Shadowheart tries to kill Lae'zel {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(Lae'zel permanently dies)'' | ||
** After Shadowheart kills Lae'zel, talk to her and tell her you trust she had reasons to do it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ** After Shadowheart kills Lae'zel, talk to her and tell her you trust she had reasons to do it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
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* Near the [[Gauntlet of Shar|Pedestal of Reckoning]], tell Shadowheart you'll help her surmount Shar's trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | * Near the [[Gauntlet of Shar|Pedestal of Reckoning]], tell Shadowheart you'll help her surmount Shar's trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
* Let Shadowheart step up at the sacrificial bowl at the each of the [[Gauntlet of Shar]] trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(each trial)'' | * Let Shadowheart step up at the sacrificial bowl at the each of the [[Gauntlet of Shar]] trials {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(each trial)'' | ||
* At the Verge of the Shadows | * At the Verge of the Shadows suggest to move on {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option gives approval points regardless of result of the player's possible attempt to pry in her mind, while she is praying.'' | |||
* In the [[Nightsong's Prison]], select the option to ''not interfere.'' {{Approval|Shadowheart|+10}} | * In the [[Nightsong's Prison]], select the option to ''not interfere.'' {{Approval|Shadowheart|+10}} | ||
* When talking to [[Dame Aylin]] at the camp, tell Shadowheart you'll help to save her parents {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(available if Shadowheart defied Shar)'' | * When talking to [[Dame Aylin]] at the camp, tell Shadowheart you'll help to save her parents {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(available if Shadowheart defied Shar)'' | ||
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'''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | '''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | ||
* While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after Ethel disappears, offer to help them find their sister {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after Ethel disappears, offer to help them find their sister {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Drink from the well outside the [[Riverside Teahouse]] after the illusion has been dispelled {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Agree to give [[Auntie Ethel]] your eye in exchange for ridding you of the tadpole {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | |||
* After defeating [[Auntie Ethel]], order her to let [[Mayrina]] go. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * After defeating [[Auntie Ethel]], order her to let [[Mayrina]] go. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
** OR, let Ethel go and take Mayrina in exchange for [[Auntie Ethel's Hair|fey hair]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ** OR, let Ethel go and take Mayrina in exchange for [[Auntie Ethel's Hair|fey hair]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
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''At the gate and in the outer camp:'' | ''At the gate and in the outer camp:'' | ||
* Play the war drum at the front gate {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | * Play the war drum at the front gate {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | ||
* If [[Crusher]] attacks you, defeat him, then say you've made a point and help him up. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * If [[Crusher]] attacks you, defeat him, then say you've made a point and help him up. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
''In the [[Shattered Sanctum]]:'' | ''In the [[Shattered Sanctum]]:'' | ||
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'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | '''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | ||
* | * If you have conspired with [[Rugan]] about the shipment, refuse to kill him on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Promise [[Oskar Fevras]] to speak to his captors {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Give Oskar an additional 200 gold after freeing him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
'''[[Underdark]]''' | '''[[Underdark]]''' | ||
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* Attack [[Ellyka]] near the point of encounter with githyanki squad {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Attack [[Ellyka]] near the point of encounter with githyanki squad {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
** OR, Being [[Disguise Self|disguised]] as a gith, provoke her to attack you. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ** OR, Being [[Disguise Self|disguised]] as a gith, provoke her to attack you. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Voss]], pass the [[Arcana]] check to find out he's trying to [[Detect Thoughts]] and then attack him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | |||
'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | '''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | ||
* Let Lae'zel speak for the group when you enter the Crèche and questioned by [[Gish Far'aag]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Let Lae'zel speak for the group when you enter the Crèche and questioned by [[Gish Far'aag]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
** Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, [[Persuasion|Persuade]] Far'aag to let you in, pretending to act on [[Voss|Voss's]] orders {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Show Gish Far'aag the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to gain entry into the Crèche {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ** OR Show Gish Far'aag the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to gain entry into the Crèche {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that if he gives you the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]] you'll sell it at best price OR make yourself an omelette (''either choise brings {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} and immediately starts the fight with [[Varsh Ko'kuu|Ko'kuu]] and hatchery guards'') | * Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that if he gives you the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]] you'll sell it at best price OR make yourself an omelette (''either choise brings {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} and immediately starts the fight with [[Varsh Ko'kuu|Ko'kuu]] and hatchery guards'') | ||
* Surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Let [[Lae'zel]] speak for the group when talking to [[Ghustil Stornugoss]] about trying to remove the tadpoles. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Vlaakith]], say you're a friend who brought the artefact to her {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Rat Shadowheart out that it was she who stole it {{Approval|Shadowheart|-10}} ''(the line is available only if Shadowheart '''is in the party''')'' | |||
* Accept [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Accept [[Vlaakith|Vlaakith's]] demand to enter the [[Mysterious Artefact]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Steal the [[Blood of Lathander]] from the Secret Chamber {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Steal the [[Blood of Lathander]] from the Secret Chamber {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* <u>At the</u> [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. | * <u>At the</u> [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | ||
* <u>When talking</u> to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to consume the mind. | * <u>When talking</u> to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to consume the mind. | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only after successful {{Ability check|Insight|18}}'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only after successful {{Ability check|Insight|18}}'' |
Latest revision as of 13:26, 3 November 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.
Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.
Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- "What do you want?"
- "What?"
- "What is it?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Something the matter?"
Medium and up - Sharran (20+ approval):
- "May the darkness protect you."
- "Shar's blessing upon you."
- "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"
Medium and up - Selunite (20+):
- "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
- "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
- "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I don't answer to you - move along."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting (20+ approval):
- "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
- "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
- "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
- "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"
Flirting - Low approval:
- "Hmm. You wanted something?"
- "In need of attention, I take it?"
- "Oh, you're back."
- "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"
Partnered (40+ approval):
- "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
- "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
- "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
- "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"
Partnered - Low approval:
- "I hope this is important."
- "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
- "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
- "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
- "Yes?"
Broken Up (40+ approval):
- "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
- "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
- "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
- "What can I do for you?"
Broken Up - Low approval:
- "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
- "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
- "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
- "Spit it out then."
- "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."
Approval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
In the House of Grief:
- Let her participate in the Mapping of the Heart. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Tell the cloister how Shar has blessed her. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Give her a chance to sway more of Viconia's followers. +1
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.