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Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | ||
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* "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | * "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | ||
Neutral (0 - | Neutral (0 - 19): | ||
* "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | * "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | ||
* “Yes?" | * “Yes?" | ||
* “Need Something?” | * “Need Something?” | ||
Medium and up ( | Medium and up (20+): | ||
* "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | * "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | ||
* "Hello, my dear." | * "Hello, my dear." | ||
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* "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | * "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | ||
===After | ===After Completing The Pale Elf=== | ||
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'''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | '''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | ||
* | * Speaking with the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage, choose the '' 'attack' '' option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after | ** Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say '' 'please' '' after convincing the tieflings to leave. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' ' | * Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' 'attack' '' dialogue option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Emerald Grove]]/[[The Hollow]]''' | '''[[Emerald Grove]]/[[The Hollow]]''' | ||
''In the Hollow:'' | |||
* Refuse to help [[Zevlor]] with persuading druids to let the tieflings stay. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | * Refuse to help [[Zevlor]] with persuading druids to let the tieflings stay. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | ||
* Scold [[Elegis]] for being scared of a few goblins OR tell her to get to digging their own graves. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Scold [[Elegis]] for being scared of a few goblins OR tell her to get to digging their own graves. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR Playing as a [[Rogue]], tell her to stop bargaining about the idol {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Playing as a [[Rogue]], tell her to stop bargaining about the idol {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''After resolving Arabella's fate | ''In the [[Sacred Pool]] and druid caves:'' | ||
* After resolving [[Arabella|Arabella's]] fate, tell [[Kagha]] that you would have killed the girl outright. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell her you just wanted to see what would happen. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell her you just wanted to see what would happen. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell her that it was quite a show. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell her that it was quite a show. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Prod [[Nettie]]'s bird twice. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Prod [[Nettie]]'s bird twice. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Attack [[Nettie]] (no need to kill her) {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Attack [[Nettie]] (no need to kill her) {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* While dealing with [[Topaz (Blue Jay)|Topaz]] the bird via [[Speak with Animals]]: | |||
** Tell him that the key in its nest is dull, OR, playing as a [[Dwarf]], that the metal is of bad quality {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} (either) | |||
** OR Playing as a [[Bard]], choose the class-specific option about a song {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Kick the bird {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Playing as a [[Bard]], talk to the squirrels listening to [[Alfira]] and first hush them not to ruin the song, and only afterwards the class-unique line "Sing along…" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Playing as a [[Bard]], talk to the squirrels listening to [[Alfira]] and first hush them not to ruin the song, and only afterwards the class-unique line "Sing along…" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Take [[Alfira|Alfira's]] lute out of her hands and smash it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Take [[Alfira|Alfira's]] lute out of her hands and smash it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Alfira]] she should give up on her song {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Alfira]] she should give up on her song {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Playing as a [[Rogue]], pick [[Mirkon|Mirkon's]] pockets while he is charmed by the harpies. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Playing as a [[Rogue]], pick [[Mirkon|Mirkon's]] pockets while he is charmed by the harpies. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After saving [[Mirkon]], tell him to | * After saving [[Mirkon]], tell him to stop snivelling or the harpies will be back. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Kick [[Timber]] the squirrel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | * Kick [[Timber]] the squirrel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | ||
** If you miss, try to kick her again {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** If you miss, try to kick her again {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | '''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | ||
* While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappears, tell them they're on their own {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappears, tell them they're on their own {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]] or [[ | ** OR Playing as a [[Ranger]], a [[Sorcerer]] or a [[Wizard]], tell [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] to 'trust a more experienced soul' after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappeares. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | * After entering the [[Sunlit Wetlands]], break the illusion by any available means, then say 'BAA' at the Redcaps when you speak to them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(works twice)'' | ||
* Tell [[Auntie Ethel]] about the tadpole (if you haven't done so in the grove). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Auntie Ethel]] about the tadpole (if you haven't done so in the grove). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Chasing after [[Auntie Ethel|Ethel]] in her lair, speak to [[Lorin]] and roar at him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Chasing after [[Auntie Ethel|Ethel]] in her lair, speak to [[Lorin]] and roar at him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Give Astarion the [[Necromancy of Thay]] during the cutscene. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Give Astarion the [[Necromancy of Thay]] during the cutscene. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* Deliver the final blow to [[Fezzerk]] when confronting him near the windmill {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Deliver the final blow to [[Fezzerk]] when confronting him near the windmill {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Untie [[Barcus Wroot]] off the windmill wing and demand a compensation from him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Untie [[Barcus Wroot]] off the windmill wing and demand a compensation from him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Interrupt the bugbear and ogre in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Interrupt the bugbear and ogre couple in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The latter option is available only if '''neither [[Shadowheart]] nor [[Wyll]] are''' in the party, otherwise one of them would interfere and try to stop the player'' | |||
* After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Goblin Camp]]'''<br> | '''[[Goblin Camp]]'''<br> | ||
''At the front gate:'' | ''At the front gate:'' | ||
* Fling worg dung at [[Sentinel Olak]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Fling worg dung at [[Sentinel Olak]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(triggers a fight with gate guards)'' | |||
''At the outer camp:'' | ''At the outer camp:'' | ||
* Yell "Boo, get off the stage!" at [[Volo]] as he performs. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Yell "Boo, get off the stage!" at [[Volo]] as he performs. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR Make Crusher kneel and kiss your foot. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Make Crusher kneel and kiss your foot. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Make Crusher kiss your foot after defeating him in a fight. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Make Crusher kiss your foot after defeating him in a fight. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Continue to attack Crusher after he is defeated, if he attacks you.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''( | ** Continue to attack Crusher after he is defeated, if he attacks you.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(makes the whole camp hostile)'' | ||
''Inside the [[Shattered Sanctum]]:'' | ''Inside the [[Shattered Sanctum]]:'' | ||
* If [[Warrior Trinzas]] questions you about the ruckus, tell her, it was the sound of her friends dying. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If [[Warrior Trinzas]] questions you about the ruckus, tell her, it was the sound of her friends dying. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR playing as a [[Drow]] say that she should have immediately recognize you as her superior. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR playing as a [[Drow]] say that she should have immediately recognize you as her superior. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Agree to attack the Grove with [[Minthara]] with or without asking for a reward. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree to attack the Grove with [[Minthara]] with or without asking for a reward. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''In [[Worg Pens]]:'' | ''In [[Worg Pens]]:'' | ||
* Tell goblin children to keep at the [[Halsin|bear]], aim for his eye, or to use sharper stones. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell goblin children to keep at the [[Halsin|bear]], aim for his eye, or to use sharper stones. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[The Risen Road]]''' | '''[[The Risen Road]]''' | ||
* Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | * Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her and recruit Karlach. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | ||
* At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(triggers a fight with 'Tyrians')'' | ||
* Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * OR/THEN order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** After the battle | ** After the battle is resolved, order Flind to off herself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' These options '''are not mutually exclusive''' and can be used one after another subsequently, in given order, which allows to gain all three points'' | |||
* Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Kill [[Rugan]] on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Kill [[Rugan]] on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other [[Zentharim]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other [[Zentharim]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After purchasing [[Oskar Fevras]], | * After purchasing [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]], speak to the artist and call him a slave twice {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Waukeen's Rest]]''' | '''[[Waukeen's Rest]]''' | ||
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* When speaking with [[Glut]] after defeating the duergar: | * When speaking with [[Glut]] after defeating the duergar: | ||
** Agree to eliminate [[Spaw]] for [[Glut]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Agree to eliminate [[Spaw]] for [[Glut]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Refuse [[Glut]] saying that you'll have no part of this or that you'll kill the treacherous myconid instead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(immediately starts fight with Glut)'' | ** OR Refuse [[Glut]] saying that you'll have no part of this or that you'll kill the treacherous myconid instead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(immediately starts a fight with Glut)'' | ||
* Steal | * Steal [[Boots of Speed]] from Thulla. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Baelen]] for compensation before throwing him a [[Misty Step]] scroll to escape the Bibberbang field. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Ask [[Baelen]] for compensation before throwing him a [[Misty Step]] scroll to escape the Bibberbang field. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Push [[Corsair Greymon]] off of the boat on your first voyage to [[Grymforge]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Push [[Corsair Greymon]] off of the boat on your first voyage to [[Grymforge]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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*Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Gish Far'aag]] that [[Voss]] sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of Vlaakith and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | *Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Gish Far'aag]] that [[Voss]] sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of Vlaakith and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''In the infirmary:'' | ''In the infirmary:'' | ||
* If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | * If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | ||
** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check| | ** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check|Perception|14}}, then succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|30}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|30}})''. | ||
** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ||
''In the hatchery:'' | ''In the hatchery:'' | ||
* Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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''In the training room:'' | ''In the training room:'' | ||
* Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | * Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | ||
''At the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ''At the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ||
* Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | * Tell [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]] that you have the [[Mysterious Artefact]], then refuse to surrender it. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(provokes a fight with Therezzyn)'' | ||
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* When he asks how you'd like him to kill you, choose any way he proposes (decapitation, stabbing, or poison) {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * When he asks how you'd like him to kill you, choose any way he proposes (decapitation, stabbing, or poison) {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** OR Tell him you'll spill his guts if he tries {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}, then say you'll take him down with you {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR Tell him you'll spill his guts if he tries {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}, then say you'll take him down with you {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* Agree with Astarion that using illithid powers to manipulate others could be useful. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only after using 'illithid' dialogue line for the first time in your walkthrough''. | |||
* After Astarion prompts you to call him beautiful, choose any option (including the line about '' 'shallow praise' '') {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Feed the [[Owlbear Cub]] when it first comes to the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Feed the [[Owlbear Cub]] when it first comes to the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Pet the [[Owlbear Cub]] in your camp after it had a nightmare {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Pet the [[Owlbear Cub]] in your camp after it had a nightmare {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When [[Kith'rak Voss]] wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the [[Mysterious Artefact]] (after the events at the Crèche), tell [[Lae'zel]] to kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the fight with the githyanki knight)'' | * When [[Kith'rak Voss]] wakes you up at the camp during long rest to discuss the [[Mysterious Artefact]] (after the events at the Crèche), tell [[Lae'zel]] to kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the fight with the githyanki knight)'' | ||
* Threaten to kill [[Mizora]] during her first appearance in the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Threaten to kill [[Mizora]] during her first appearance in the camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Agree with | * Agree to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(starts [[Astarion/romance|romance]])'' | ||
** Offer him your neck during sexual intercourse {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | ** Offer him your neck during sexual intercourse {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The dialogue about spending a night together might occur anywhere if Astarion's approval has come up to 40+, otherwise it can be triggered at the camp celebration'' | |||
<!-- * Say that you might sleep with him if he says 'please', but then rather than pushing it, tell him "No, Astarion. It's not happening." ''<small>(Note: This only happens in the Tiefling version of the party; the equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives -1 approval instead. This path giving the same approval as actually sleeping with him is most likely a bug.)</small>'' {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} --> | <!-- * Say that you might sleep with him if he says 'please', but then rather than pushing it, tell him "No, Astarion. It's not happening." ''<small>(Note: This only happens in the Tiefling version of the party; the equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives -1 approval instead. This path giving the same approval as actually sleeping with him is most likely a bug.)</small>'' {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} --> | ||
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'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
* At the Long Rest, when Astarion's true nature | * At the Long Rest, when Astarion's true nature comes out, say you trust him. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** Then let him bite you without threatening him. {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | |||
** | |||
** OR Let him bite you but threaten to stake him if he goes too far. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Let him bite you but threaten to stake him if he goes too far. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* The next morning, when other companions find out that Astarion is a vampire: | * The next morning, when other companions find out that Astarion is a vampire: | ||
** Say you think he won't hurt anyone of you {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** Say you think he won't hurt anyone of you {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** OR | ** OR Say that if they don't like it, they can leave. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* | * When discussing Astarion's future 'diet', agree that him feeding on your enemies sounds good. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* When he asks whose blood you'd hypothetically drink, name any other companion (including | * When he asks whose blood you'd ''hypothetically'' drink, name any other companion (including himself, too). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* While speaking about [[Cazador]], tell him that you'll watch his back OR promise you'll keep him safe if he does the same. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(either)'' | * While speaking about [[Cazador]], tell him that you'll watch his back OR promise you'll keep him safe if he does the same. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(either)'' | ||
}} | }} | ||
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* Convince the hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince the hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Order [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Kar'niss]] the drider they are amazing after watching them berate a goblin who "fed the shadows" | * <u>Tell</u> [[Kar'niss]] the drider they are amazing after watching them berate a goblin who "fed the shadows" | ||
* Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them and maintain your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them and maintain your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only | ▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you're '''not playing''' as [[The Dark Urge]] AND if you '''haven't seen''' his scars prior'' | ||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | ** Then persuade [[Malus Thorm]] to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} (comes one point by another subsequently). | * OR Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) | ** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of | * Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} .''(each time)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | |||
* By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
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** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when [[Araj Oblodra|Araj]] asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when [[Araj Oblodra|Araj]] asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* Kill [[Fezzerk]] without combat (through dialogue options) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Kill [[Fezzerk]] without combat (through dialogue options) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Successfully distract [[Disciple Z'rell]] with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Successfully distract [[Disciple Z'rell]] with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you're romancing the spawn'' | |||
:* Ask [[Disciple Z'rell]] to show the power the Absolute has given her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Questioner Jasin]] "The only thing I'm going to break is you" when [[Minthara]] is being erased. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Questioner Jasin]] "The only thing I'm going to break is you" when [[Minthara]] is being erased. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | |||
* When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | * When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | ||
** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Propose to take [[Orin]]'s place to lead the cult of Absolute {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} (amount {{verify}}) | ** Propose to take [[Orin]]'s place to lead the cult of Absolute {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} (amount {{verify}}) | ||
** Tell her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ** <u>Tell</u> her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ||
** Tell her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ** <u>Tell</u> her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ||
* When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]], say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]], say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|}} | * At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|}} | ||
* When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to | * When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to consume the mind.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only after successful {{Ability check|Insight|18}}'' | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
* Tell [[Arabella]] her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Arabella]] her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After defending Astarion from [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] molestations, at the long rest tell him that you care about him, then either hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} '' | * After defending Astarion from [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] molestations, at the long rest tell him that you care about him, then either hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This long-rest cutscene appears only if you romance him; both these choices advance your relationship'' | |||
:* OR Tell him he needs a friend more than another lover {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This choice ends the romance without approval loss'' | |||
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''Elsewhere:'' | ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** [[Deception|Deceive]] [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ** [[Deception|Deceive]] [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ||
** [[Persuasion|Persuade]] or [[Intimidation|intimidate]] them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned of the Rite yet)''. | ** [[Persuasion|Persuade]] or [[Intimidation|intimidate]] them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned of the Rite yet)''. | ||
* | * In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], when [[Sebastian]] asks what happens to us, say "We'll set you free" or "That depends on you". {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Successfully keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * Successfully keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
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'''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | '''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]''' | ||
*When talking to [[Auntie Ethel]] and [[Mayrina]] at the [[Riverside Teahouse]]: | *When talking to [[Auntie Ethel]] and [[Mayrina]] at the [[Riverside Teahouse]]: | ||
** Don't let Ethel steer the conversation away, and finally say that "This woman is clearly in trouble" | ** Don't let Ethel steer the conversation away, and finally say that "This woman is clearly in trouble" {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR Tell [[Mayrina]] straightaway that | ** OR Tell [[Mayrina]] straightaway that [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] were killed (by you or Ethel) {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* After defeating Ethel, reject the offer to spare her in exchange for [[Auntie Ethel|fey hair]] {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | * After defeating Ethel, reject the offer to spare her in exchange for [[Auntie Ethel|fey hair]] {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
* OR, Order her to let Mayrina go. {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | |||
* Reject [[Mayrina]]'s reward for saving her {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Reject [[Mayrina]]'s reward for saving her {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Reveal his identity to [[Gandrel]] {{Approval|Astarion|-10}} | * Reveal his identity to [[Gandrel]] {{Approval|Astarion|-10}} | ||
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'''[[Blighted Village]]''' | '''[[Blighted Village]]''' | ||
* Drop and prepare to destroy the [[Necromancy of Thay]] in the [[Apothecary's Cellar]] {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | |||
* Read the [[Necromancy of Thay]] yourself {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Read the [[Necromancy of Thay]] yourself {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Pay [[Fezzerk]] a lot of gold to let you pass {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Pay [[Fezzerk]] a lot of gold to let you pass {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Untie [[Barcus Wroot]] off the windmill wing and tell him that he owes you nothing {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** Untie [[Barcus Wroot]] off the windmill wing and tell him that he owes you nothing {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Goblin Camp]]'''<br> | '''[[Goblin Camp]]'''<br> | ||
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'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | '''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | ||
* Buy [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Buy [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* | * Give [[Oskar Fevras]] additional 200 gold after freeing him {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Underdark]]''' | '''[[Underdark]]''' | ||
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* Give the [[Necromancy of Thay]] to Gale, or destroy it. {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | * Give the [[Necromancy of Thay]] to Gale, or destroy it. {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
* After Astarion fails to read through [[Necromancy of Thay]], suggest that he give the book to Gale or tell him to stop reading it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * After Astarion fails to read through [[Necromancy of Thay]], suggest that he give the book to Gale or tell him to stop reading it {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Refuse when he offers to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' If you agreed, turning him down during any part of the romance cutscene itself '''does not''' bring any disapproval'' | |||
* When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | * Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | ||
* If Astarion died from the Lathander's Lance blast in [[Rosymorn Monastery]], resurrect him, then talk to him and choose any line '''except''' the promise to be more careful next time {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | * If Astarion died from the Lathander's Lance blast in [[Rosymorn Monastery]], resurrect him, then talk to him and choose any line '''except''' the promise to be more careful next time {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
'' | ''During camp celebration:'' | ||
* | * When arranging to spend a night together, fail the {{Ability Check|Persuasion|15}} to make Astarion say '' 'please' ''. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This whole dialogue occurs only if you haven't slept with him earlier'' | |||
* If you already have a partner, tell Astarion that you're "looking forward to it" OR ask the spawn if he's feeling jealous. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Speak to him, end the conversation without agreeing to sleep with him, then make arrangements with another companion. After that, talk to Astarion again and tell him you're spending the night with someone else. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
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'''Raphael's Deal''' | '''Raphael's Deal''' | ||
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* Playing as a [[Warlock]], say that Raphael is "only a cambion" and that you can handle him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Playing as a [[Warlock]], say that Raphael is "only a cambion" and that you can handle him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''' | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
* | *At the Long Rest, when Astarion's true nature comes out: | ||
* | ** Botch the roll to read his mind through illithid ability {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
** Tell him to leave immediately {{Approval|Astarion|-10}} ''(Astarion obeys and leaves the party)'' | |||
* | ** Fail to stake him (at any stage of the scene) {{Approval|Astarion|-10}} ''(Astarion leaves the party)'' | ||
* | * When discussing Astarion's future 'diet', forbid him to drink human blood {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | ||
* While speaking about [[Cazador]], tell him that he is on his own {{Approval|Astarion|-5}} | |||
* When he asks whose blood you'd ''hypothetically'' drink, ask him back if he ''really'' means eating others, then choose the line 'We're done talking'. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
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'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
* Fail to | * Fail to keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension OR refuse to help him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(Astarion leaves the party)'' | ||
** <u>OR Interrupt</u> the Rite once Astarion has started it ''(Astarion becomes hostile to the party)'' | ** <u>OR Interrupt</u> the Rite once Astarion has started it ''(Astarion becomes hostile to the party)'' | ||
}} | }} |
Latest revision as of 14:00, 2 July 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (when romanced, if the player fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (after killing Alfira)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (after the player discovers the truth about their parentage in Act 3)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]