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Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | ||
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* "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | * "You're staring at me again. What do you want?" | ||
Neutral (0 - | Neutral (0 - 19): | ||
* "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | * "Well, hello. What can I do for you?" | ||
* “Yes?" | * “Yes?" | ||
* “Need Something?” | * “Need Something?” | ||
Medium and up ( | Medium and up (20+): | ||
* "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | * "Ah, my favourite travelling companion." | ||
* "Hello, my dear." | * "Hello, my dear." | ||
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* "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | * "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?" | ||
===After | ===After Completing The Pale Elf=== | ||
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'''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | '''[[Roadside Cliffs]]''' | ||
* Attack the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage after initiating dialogue. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Attack the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage after initiating dialogue. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after | * Ask [[Lae'zel]] to say 'please' after convincing the tieflings to leave. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' 'Attack' '' dialogue option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Speaking to [[Gimblebock]] near [[Chapel Entrance]], choose the '' 'Attack' '' dialogue option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Interrupt the bugbear and ogre in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Interrupt the bugbear and ogre in the barn {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR let Astarion interrupt them. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The latter option is available only if either [[Shadowheart]] or [[Wyll]] '''are not''' in the party, otherwise one of them would interfere and try to stop the player'' | |||
* After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After summoning [[Lump the Enlightened]] and telling him your deal is done, let him have one lick. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[The Risen Road]]''' | '''[[The Risen Road]]''' | ||
* Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | * Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her and recruit Karlach. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | ||
* At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * OR/THEN order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** After the battle | ** After the battle is resolved, order Flind to off herself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' These options are not mutually exclusive and can be used one after another in subsequent dialogues, allowing to gain all three points'' | |||
* Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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''In the infirmary:'' | ''In the infirmary:'' | ||
* If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | * If [[Lae'zel]] is chosen to use the [[zaith'isk]], either | ||
** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check| | ** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check|Perception|14}}, then succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|30}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|30}})''. | ||
** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}}) '''This choice will permanently lower Lae'zel's INT by 2'''''. | ||
''In the hatchery:'' | ''In the hatchery:'' | ||
* Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that the last githyanki egg is clearly a dud {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Help [[Mol]] win the game against [[Raphael]] using the Sleight of Hand, Bard, Monk, or Wizard options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only | ▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you're '''not playing''' as [[The Dark Urge]] AND if you '''haven't seen''' his scars prior'' | ||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], give in to your urge to kill the Strange Ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | ** Then persuade [[Malus Thorm]] to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} (comes one point by another subsequently). | * OR Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) | ** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of | * Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} .''(each time)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | |||
* By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
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** Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Invite [[Minthara]] to your camp after saving her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ||
* When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | * When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]: | ||
** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | ||
* At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|}} | * At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Astarion|}} | ||
* When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to | * When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to consume the mind.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only after successful {{Ability check|Insight|18}}'' | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
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''Elsewhere:'' | ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] you will keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll take a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} |
Latest revision as of 07:38, 29 June 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (when romanced, if the player fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (after killing Alfira)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (after the player discovers the truth about their parentage in Act 3)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]